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Old 12-03-2018, 09:10 AM
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Picking up a "new" 2015 X1, 35i with 29,000 miles on it....

Like the subject says, I'll be taking delivery of the vehicle this Friday and can't wait.

I have an inspection scheduled with an Indy, and will have a number of days to reject the car if I see something I don't like.

Anyone have any suggestions of what to look for? Any thoughts/comments? I've read a bunch of articles and checklists for inspecting used cars before you buy them, but thought I would post here too.

Oh, there is about a month before the factory warranty is up... Does anyone know if that included maintenance? Should I schedule an appointment with the dealer to have them look it over, or see if there are any recalls, etc?

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Old 12-03-2018, 12:17 PM
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It still has factory warranty ? Pay your indy extra and get the most thorough exam you can get. Inspect EVERYTHING, from oil leaks to torn rubber boots. You have 1 month to get whatever fixed from the factory warranty, then you're on your own. Make sure you use that factory warranty for ANYTHING that's wrong with the vehicle.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:52 PM
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That's a really great point. Assuming the Factory Warranty goes active from the day the vehicle was sold (12/23/2014 - according to carfax), then I'm probably dangerously close to being able to get an appointment even.

Does it go by when the work is performed at the dealer, or when the dealer recognizes the issue?

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Old 12-03-2018, 04:14 PM
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Does it go by when the work is performed at the dealer, or when the dealer recognizes the issue?
That's something you'd best ask the dealer. FWIW, my experience with non-BMW warranty is that as long as the dealer has accepted the vehicle BEFORE warranty expired, it's covered. I had a case once with a Ford where I brought the car in, the dealer had to order the part (3 week wait), warranty expired while we were waiting for the part. Everything was still warranty covered. Again though, best to ask the dealer and not assume anything.
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Old 12-03-2018, 04:24 PM
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I picked up my 2015 in June and like a dumb ass didnít get it pre-inspected like you are doing. I did get it to the dealer, there was a strange noise locking /unlocking which I thought was a door lock, and bit of rough idle. The dealer traced it to the valvetronic motor which was replaced under warranty. It took several more weeks and a couple days at the dealer to get resolved. Donít quote me but I believe once the warranty is up, itís up, and maintenance only applies to the first owner. I downloaded the 2015 service/warranty info from BMW last night, see enclosed. My warranty is up in 10 days. Good luck!
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Old 12-03-2018, 08:05 PM
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That's great info. Thanks! Will let you know how I make out!
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To the OP,
There are a couple of easy things to look for by visual inspection.
Check for oil around the oil filter housing. Specifically around the gasket area.
(there could be spillage during an oil filter replacement in the nooks and crannies, that does not mean the gasket is leaking)
Check the engine air filter, see if it's been changed recently or if there is grit and sand everywhere.
Check the coolant level.
Check that the back washer fluid works as normal.
Check the gas cap to work as normal. (I know lame, but bad gas caps can throw codes)
Inspect the brake fluid and power steering fluid are at normal levels and color.
If you have xenon head lights, they should auto adjust (be close to a wall) when you turn them on or start the car with the lights on.
Start the engine cold, it should hover around 1000rpms but then settle in to around 600 rpm after 15 seconds or so.
They key fob should also give you a history of everything that has ever happened to the car at a dealership, not sure if you can get that info but it might not hurt to ask. (if you don't have that info already)

Sounds like you already have a good check list, but the 35i since its debut with the E84 X1 seems to be fairly reliable thus far.
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:44 PM
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OK Thanks! I'll look out for that stuff...

Now I'm trying to decide on the warranty. The company (Carvana - lots of mixed reviews out there I know, but that's another subject LOL), offers the following extended warranty options:
$1,500 --> coverage for up to 24 months, 60,000 miles (adds about 39 per month to my payment, and extends term 6 months)
$2,100 --> coverage for up to 48 months, 90,000 miles (adds about 28 per month to my payment, and extends term 6 months)

The cost of the warranty gets added to the price (so you pay a little more tax), and then financed, essentially increasing your payment, and extending your terms out 6 months. It works out about right according to my spreadsheet.

Factors to consider:
50$ deductible, I can have it repaired at a dealer or an indy.
I can cancel at any time. (My higher payment won't change, but the car will simply be paid off sooner, as the remaining pro-rated portion gets put toward the balance of the loan.)
I can not add the warranty after my 7 day test period.

Reading on some of the other reddit posts about SilverRock, Carvana's partner company, it seems they could insist that for the warranty to remain in force, oil changes would need to be done every 5k miles and/or 6 months. (Does that mean i couldn't even do my own oil changes? --if not, it's already a dealbreaker LOL). And I've read mixed reviews about having to work with Silverrock.

I can do pretty much my own maintenance and work on it if something minor crops up. I have a third vehicle, so not worried about the X1 sitting in the garage while I diagnose, wait for parts, etc.

What I'm worried about is an engine and/or transmission, electronics, etc - something big like that which I couldn't handle.

It only has 29k miles, and only plan to put 6-10 on it per year I'd say.... so, I imagine there's a good chance that the car will be just fine for the next 4 years. I mean, how often does a crazy expensive repair like that happen on these vehicles?

Curious to know people's thoughts. I believe that aftermarket warranties for these cars go for much more than the costs above... I find myself surprisingly torn over the issue.

Thanks for everyone's help! I love this place!

PS. Anyone know if there will be a bimmerfest East in 2019, since the Englishtown track closed? Bummer since I'm in Jersey. Hope it's close if there is one.
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Warranty is a really subjective decision. I started at 41,000 miles. Youíre starting at really low miles. My car looked brand new, was a lease return. I loved my sales guy at the third party dealer but then they sent me upstairs to the financial guy, who tried to sell me a warranty, I declined. Magically, the warranty price suddenly went down, lol, so keep that in mind, itís usually negotiable a bit. He tried to tell me it was going to expire in 2 weeks, but I had already done my homework and knew I had 6 months. What a sleeze.

I owned my last car, a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP for 19 years and did almost all work on it myself. The X1 is a whole nother animal though. I have a lot of BMW to learn and a lot of Pontiac parts to sell, lol.. I love working on cars but also have means to self insure if something goes horribly wrong. Itís depends on how much you are willing to work on it yourself and how you could deal if suddenly you were faced with no working car and a $3500 repair bill.
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Yeah, I hear ya. This was a lease return too, that lived out in California. Glad to know it wasn't going through the salty winters of upstate, NY. Anyway, I have another vehicle (audi & 01 bimmer), so if the X1 is out of commission sitting in my garage for a bit, no big deal. And a $3500 bill would suck, but I would be able to swing it, albeit painfully. And I bet the warranty they wanted to sell you was quite a bit more than 2100 for 4 years.. I can't stand the sleezy nature of that dealer/finance guy stuff. Pretty annoying LOL. I've been working on VW/Audi for a while now, and last few years really had a chance to cut my teeth on the 01 BMW 525i with 168k on the clock. Plus, there's the other issues like, would I have trouble getting them to honor a claim? So, I guess I'm leaning away from it at this point. Will definitely report back here how it all goes though.

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Old 12-06-2018, 06:25 AM
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I personally think warranties are a big rip off. Most problems will happen long after they expire. But I do fix many things myself, and if it gives you peace of mind go for it. Check the car fax report, if its a lease return Im sure all the maintenance was done. Good luck, 133k on my 13 and no problems at all.

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Go thru this board and look at everything that could and has gone wrong with our cars and then list it as a complaint... have the dealer check EVERYTHING... This is what I did before our 2013 went out or warranty... Other than a cracked washer fluid bottle, ours has been trouble free with about 65K on it
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Old 12-07-2018, 04:26 PM
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Got the car today. Everything checked out initially. Having an indy check it out Monday, and then I suspect I'll go to the dealer right after. One thing I did notice, was that it takes quite a while for the temp to come up, and it's not right in the middle. There were no floor mats, but Carvana is going to order and send them free of charge. It's a pretty sweet ride and am thrilled so far. I decided not to opt for the warranty. And thank god for Tune2Air, as I was bummed about not having streaming bluetooth, but everything works, include the steering wheel controls. Thanks for everyone's advice and input!
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Old 12-08-2018, 01:23 PM
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:09 PM
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That's a rare find. A 35i is hard enough but with relatively low miles? great. Hopefully it is optioned out. I think $2100 for a 90k mile warranty is pretty good. There is a good chance you water pump will go, and maybe oil filter housing gasket--both together would be about $2100 total if done by the dealer. I worry about the drivetrain but who knows if that's a weak area. Otherwise I think the N55 platform is pretty reliable up to 100k miles. In any case, congrats!
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