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Old 12-04-2018, 11:41 AM
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Should I remove some oil?

Greetings, new member here.

My very first oil change on a BMW was a success. Couldn't believe how simple it was on this car. Went with Castrol European Blend 0W-40 and a Mann Filter.

The car was on Rhino ramps so the drain hole was positioned for maximum drainage. I used the "measure what comes out" methodology to determine what should go in. I can safely say I put slightly less than what actually came out (I couldn't believe all the oil she had).

The drained oil filled an entire 5qt and 1qt jug to the rim (past the original oil markers). I spilled a little and still poured about ½qt into another 5qt jug. That part had me scratching my head, so I put in 6qt and measured. The results showed a hairline below the max-line of the attached image seen here. Therefore, I and added ½qt more and this measurement (see image) is the end result (I stopped there). To be honest, this car probably had 6.6qt if I were to guess.

I maybe put in 6.4qt (if that) and I've seen a few places online and here calling for 6.1qt. In the following video, she flashes 6.1qt (she's pretty awesome, BTW).



So far (fingers crossed), the car is running quite nicely and "appears" to run/idle smoother/quieter. However this may be my butt dyno/placebo effect.

This coming weekend I'll check the air filter next. I'm just under 33k miles.

In closing, I will say next time I'll only use 6qt exactly. Kinda hard to measure how much 6 ".1qt" is from a 5qt jug.

Finally, should I let some oil out? Id have to drain the whole thing then put it back in as pulling the plug and quickly putting it back in (while draining) would be quite messy. However, I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Thoughts anyone?


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Old 12-04-2018, 10:45 PM
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:59 PM
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Your engine (N20 I assume) calls for 6.1 qts.
That is what should be in there.
If you added an extra .3 qts, I'm sure you'll be fine but I personally would fix it sooner than later.
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:32 PM
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the n20 in an x1 only takes 4.8L or 5.1 Qts or 5.3qt 5.5L i think
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:52 PM
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the n20 in an x1 only takes 4.8L or 5.1 Qts or 5.3qt 5.5L i think
This is a build sheet for a Model Year 2013 X1. (which should be the same up to a 2015 E84 X1)

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Old 12-06-2018, 03:41 PM
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This is a build sheet for a Model Year 2013 X1. (which should be the same up to a 2015 E84 X1)

5.8 qts is still not 6.1 or 6.4 though

and i correct myself from eariler its supposed to be 5.5L or 5.8 qts Not sure why it says 6.1qts as that isnt right. we never put that much in at my dealer

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Old 12-06-2018, 05:45 PM
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5.8 qts is still not 6.1 or 6.4 though

and i correct myself from eariler its supposed to be 5.5L or 5.8 qts Not sure why it says 6.1qts as that isnt right. we never put that much in at my dealer
the built sheet state 5.75 liters or 6.1 quarts
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:09 PM
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the built sheet state 5.75 liters or 6.1 quarts

i can get you pics from ista/bmw fluid spec sheets at my dealership that say otherwise so? i work on these cars daily and check oil level on ever oil change i do. never have i added 6.1qts and never have i had a car say under full after an oil service so?
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:33 PM
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i can get you pics from ista/bmw fluid spec sheets at my dealership that say otherwise so? i work on these cars daily and check oil level on ever oil change i do. never have i added 6.1qts and never have i had a car say under full after an oil service so?
is not that i dont believe you.

i just wonder why there is a difference of data. so please print it, the more data the forum has the better-

this some unk person just made this sheet up?

my understading about ISTA is that is created by a different company to work with BMW.


also my understanding is that there is difference between xdrive and sdrive

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Old 12-07-2018, 04:50 PM
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is not that i dont believe you.

i just wonder why there is a difference of data. so please print it, the more data the forum has the better-

this some unk person just made this sheet up?

my understading about ISTA is that is created by a different company to work with BMW.


also my understanding is that there is difference between xdrive and sdrive
xdrive gets 5.8 while sdrive gets 5.1 i think, ill see if i remember to get the sheet at work tomorrow
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Old 12-08-2018, 05:22 AM
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the n20 in an x1 only takes 4.8L or 5.1 Qts or 5.3qt 5.5L i think


Trust me. What came out was far more than that. And this is following a BMW fill-up.


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Old 12-08-2018, 05:30 AM
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Your engine (N20 I assume) calls for 6.1 qts.

That is what should be in there.

If you added an extra .3 qts, I'm sure you'll be fine but I personally would fix it sooner than later.

You’re saying take .2qts out? I’d have to drain it completely as trying to gauge that by pulling the drain plug and putting it back in fast would be impossible let alone messy.

I’m confident I drained 6.4qts from this car and this is following a BMW dealer oil change.


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Old 12-08-2018, 06:54 AM
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So I removed the cabin air filter (easiest thing I’ve ever done), but I freegin dropped one of the screws and it’s stuck above that engine plastic cover below. So I put 5 screws back and left one of the two bottom ones out. Errrrrrr.

Anyway, I’m saving the filter I took out because it looks pretty good to me. Top is new, bottom is used one.

Not sure where I can find a replacement screw like this one. Hmmmmmmmm, maybe my wife’s MINI?


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Old 12-08-2018, 05:58 PM
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You’re saying take .2qts out? I’d have to drain it completely as trying to gauge that by pulling the drain plug and putting it back in fast would be impossible let alone messy.

I’m confident I drained 6.4qts from this car and this is following a BMW dealer oil change.


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That little amount probably won't matter that much.
But you can do it with out a mess... just loosen the bolt on the oil pan until oil starts dripping out. Grab a beer and wait.
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:35 PM
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That little amount probably won't matter that much.

But you can do it with out a mess... just loosen the bolt on the oil pan until oil starts dripping out. Grab a beer and wait.

I mentioned in my original post, approximately 6.4 qts were drained following an oil change done by BMW this past “February.”

Assuming this car consumed “any” oil since February, one can argue “more” than 6.4 qts were initially put in. That said, are we implying BMW “deliberately” overfills their cars?

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Old 12-30-2018, 11:08 PM
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Just wanted to follow up on this thread as there might be some confusion on oil levels for an E84 X1. (with Xdrive)
Indeed, Ziggy is correct with the N20 only taking 5.5 L (5.8 q)
I have ISTA on my laptop, and double checked both specs on the two engines.

According to ISTA, the N20 takes 5.5 L while the N55 takes 6.5 L (6.9 q).

So, the build sheet I posted earlier in this thread is likely incorrect, or it's a specific Canadian spec.
Note: the build sheet and ISTA show the same oil capacity for the N55 at 6.5 L.

As to David and the original overfill... sounds like it was overfilled at some point.
But half a L or Q under or over either way I don't think will be a big deal.
A bottle and a half under or over might cause problems.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:42 AM
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funny there is so many different data for this car- i wish bmw would just give consumer a dispstick and write the volume of all fluid in the manual. just like all other manufactures already do

i was at the castrol website wish is the approved all it shows 5.28 qt.... lol

https://applications.castrol.com/oil...28i-(2009-2016)
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Old 12-31-2018, 11:31 PM
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As long as it is working correctly, the oil sensor tells you everything you need to know including if you overfilled it. There is also a tolerance/ safety factor for oil level because nothing can guarantee exactly how much oil is in the engine and it is expected that the level will fluctuate, the engine will consume some oil and the owner will add top up amounts that are not exact. The engineers thought of these scenarios. But the sensor will tell you if you are in "the zone"
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i wish bmw would just give consumer a dispstick and write the volume of all fluid in the manual. just like all other manufactures already do
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Yes!!!!!! When I first got my X1 I popped the hood and looked around. After I spent 10 minutes looking for the dipstick with no success, opened the manual. I was stunned there was no dipstick and had to rely on a sensor. Absolutely stupid, but part of BMW's belief that their customers are not DIY types.
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