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From the June 2010 Roundel p. 30 (quoting Autocar?):

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2013 3 Series: same sausage, only shorter--and with three cylinders

Details on the next-generation 3 Series are emerging. Come 2013, the 3 Series will look a lot like its big-brother 2011 5 Series, which drew upon the 2009 7 Series. These would be late-2012 arrivals, as model-year 2013 cars; it's possible that U.S. models might not come until 2013...
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If the F30 is going to be a 2013 model (as would be expected under normal model changeover timeframes) then most likely it will be available in Europe in the spring of 2012 and in the U.S. by early summer (June) 2012, not "late 2012". That would be in keeping with standard BMW model introductions. There have been some rumors of BMW thinking of going to a six year cycle, or even five year cycle as opposed to seven years, but not likely prior to the F30 introduction.
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If the F30 is going to be a 2013 model (as would be expected under normal model changeover timeframes) then most likely it will be available in Europe in the spring of 2012 and in the U.S. by early summer (June) 2012, not "late 2012". That would be in keeping with standard BMW model introductions. There have been some rumors of BMW thinking of going to a six year cycle, or even five year cycle as opposed to seven years, but not likely prior to the F30 introduction.
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Six year cycle is being forced on BMW for simple economic reasons!
Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti are being completely redesigned from the ground up every five years. Believe me BMW is feeling the pressure. I personally am all about tradition and the 7 year cycle is a time honored one. But it is cut throat out there and something's gotta give.
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I'm new here are had a question. I plan on leasing a 335 sometime between summer and winter of 2011 and wanted to know if BMW plans to release the F30 sometime in 2012, will they have any kind of leasing deals on the outgoing E90? This is my first time leasing, was just curious if there was any incentive BMW might offer since a new model would be on its way.

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I'm new here are had a question. I plan on leasing a 335 sometime between summer and winter of 2011 and wanted to know if BMW plans to release the F30 sometime in 2012, will they have any kind of leasing deals on the outgoing E90? This is my first time leasing, was just curious if there was any incentive BMW might offer since a new model would be on its way.

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Rumors are late in 2012. Usually BMW has next years models only for the last few months of the year, whereas some other brands may release them in summer. This may not be, depending on how long it takes to develop but at this point it seems feasible.

From what I remember, there are not that many incentives as others to get cars out of showrooms, since they are BMW's.

As the date approaches BMW centers will have more information, and more will be posted on here, but as of now, it seems late 2012.
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Rumors are late in 2012. Usually BMW has next years models only for the last few months of the year, whereas some other brands may release them in summer. This may not be, depending on how long it takes to develop but at this point it seems feasible.

From what I remember, there are not that many incentives as others to get cars out of showrooms, since they are BMW's.
You make is sound like dealer support doesn't exist yet for years BMW has been throwing thousands at BMWs (right now it's the cash and "free" value package, in years past it was the automatic transmission credit, for the E46 it was thousands in trunk money).
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You make is sound like dealer support doesn't exist yet for years BMW has been throwing thousands at BMWs (right now it's the cash and "free" value package, in years past it was the automatic transmission credit, for the E46 it was thousands in trunk money).
I meant that compared to other brands, your not going to have the "fire sales" that happen when they're going from one model year to another (i.e. on the radio "we have 2011's coming in and we need to make room for them so we are offering huge discounts on the 2010's").

While they will always have an incentives out, just like right now $1500 back with 0.9% interest, they will continue to have different incentives, however, from watching prices when the last 3 series came out, there were not HUGE discounts of 4 or 5k out for the last few ones out which would have been the incentive that guymandude was asking about. Interest rates, which could be another way to get them off the lot, could be another method but with interest rates around 0.9% now your not going to see a huge interest rate drop as an incentive.

I just don't see BMW offering a large discount to get them out the door when the new ones arrive. Typically, there aren't lots full of them when they arrive and dealerships trying to get rid of them quickly, usually, from what I've seen at the dealerships around here, is that they're pretty good about maintaining a good transition when models change.
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I meant that compared to other brands, your not going to have the "fire sales" that happen when they're going from one model year to another (i.e. on the radio "we have 2011's coming in and we need to make room for them so we are offering huge discounts on the 2010's").
These ads are on San Diego radio daily for BMWs. They use a clever ad slogan but the gist is the same: we need to clear out our 2010s.

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I just don't see BMW offering a large discount to get them out the door when the new ones arrive. Typically, there aren't lots full of them when they arrive and dealerships trying to get rid of them quickly, usually, from what I've seen at the dealerships around here, is that they're pretty good about maintaining a good transition when models change.
LA is even more competitive than San Diego so they discount much further and thus move a ton of product. It's also why we've gone to LA to get our last few cars. Denser area, more competition, much lower prices.

Also, M models are now ED discount (unlike the early 2000s) and the end of the e46 M saw massive firesale pricing.
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I've been searching around for the dimensions of the new F30 but couldn't find anything. Does anyone have the new dimensions? Being BMWs are growing in size and weight, I'm thinking the new F30 will become the older E39 size wise.
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http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...w-3-series.htm

what do you guys make of that article? They claim the F30 will be released in late 2011/early 2012.
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Yeah, having just bought a 2011, the 2012 appears to be a lock. It appears to be in advanced prototype stage now. That means the 2013 reports are wrong. The car will come to the USA _this year_. I believe the factory is closed and retooling NOW to build it. Just my 2c.
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Yeah, having just bought a 2011, the 2012 appears to be a lock. It appears to be in advanced prototype stage now. That means the 2013 reports are wrong. The car will come to the USA _this year_. I believe the factory is closed and retooling NOW to build it. Just my 2c.
We'll see. I doubt it as this would break with longstanding traditions for 7 year model runs.
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If I remember correctly, the current generation was introduced in June 2005 as an 2006 model. So if we add 7 years, the next gen will arrive spring-summer 2012 introduced as a 2013 model. Since the unveiling is scheduled for the Frankfurt Auto Show this coming September, the timeline makes sense to me.
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I spoke to my dealer in RI (Inskip) last week and they told me that the F30 will start to hit the showrooms in the US in Nov/Dec of this year (similar to how the new X3 was rolled out). I'm not sure when the ordering will be available...but, maybe during that same timeframe.

Incidentally, I was asking this dealer because I want to order a 2011 E92 (via ED) and I was told that the E9x would stop production in Munich in late June '11. Has anyone else heard this as well?
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I spoke to my dealer in RI (Inskip) last week and they told me that the F30 will start to hit the showrooms in the US in Nov/Dec of this year (similar to how the new X3 was rolled out). I'm not sure when the ordering will be available...but, maybe during that same timeframe.

Incidentally, I was asking this dealer because I want to order a 2011 E92 (via ED) and I was told that the E9x would stop production in Munich in late June '11. Has anyone else heard this as well?
This might be true for the F30/E90. The coupe usually is made available one year after the sedan. Therefore, they might discontinue the E90 in June to retool for the F30, but the E92 would still be available through mid-2012.
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I spoke to my dealer in RI (Inskip) last week and they told me that the F30 will start to hit the showrooms in the US in Nov/Dec of this year (similar to how the new X3 was rolled out). I'm not sure when the ordering will be available...but, maybe during that same timeframe.

Incidentally, I was asking this dealer because I want to order a 2011 E92 (via ED) and I was told that the E9x would stop production in Munich in late June '11. Has anyone else heard this as well?
FrantT41 probably has a point. But I will add that my dealer told me exactly the same thing as he told you (TeddyBGame). Want a current model 3 series? Order it by April. Otherwise, you will be getting a car from some dealer's lot, or be getting the newly designed "3" later in the year. Although he said expect it October-ish.

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I'm considering upgrading my car soon but I have some reservations about buying the first year model of a car. Anyone know how the first year E90s are doing? I'm guessing the new flagship F30 car will have a tuned version of the N55 engine so it won't be brand new, but the electronics in the cabin will probably be new/unreliable? I've always been a bit scared of turbo engines too.
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I had a first year e93. As you probably know, a number of HPFP's failed on these (and later year) models, and the earliest cars didn't have an aux. oil cooler. Mine was built approximately 4 months into the new production cycle and it did have the extra oil cooler and it never had a problem with the fuel pump. If you are considering a 2007 CPO car, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Check the build date (label on the B piller) to see if it was built before May, 2007 - which I believe is when most of the problems originated. If it hasn't failed by now, it probably won't. But it wouldn't hurt to see the service history in case it had a new pump installed recently. Other than that, just the usual occasional gremlin in the electronics (iDrive mostly) that would clear easily. Mine did that maybe 6 times in three years, but no maintenance appointment was necessary.

On the other hand, if you are looking to compare reliability factors of the current model as it was introduced, vs those with the upcoming changes, my guess is you will only be guessing.

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I'm considering upgrading my car soon but I have some reservations about buying the first year model of a car. Anyone know how the first year E90s are doing? I'm guessing the new flagship F30 car will have a tuned version of the N55 engine so it won't be brand new, but the electronics in the cabin will probably be new/unreliable? I've always been a bit scared of turbo engines too.
Most of the issues with the first year E90 were related to the engines, both turbo and (to a lesser extent) NA. Assuming our only choice is between 4 and 6 cilinder turbo engines, my educated guess is that this time the 6 cilinder turbo will be the safer choice, as they've had the time to work out the kinks. If the real thing lives up to the expectations, I would be more than willing to buy an early F30 335.
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Most of the issues with the first year E90 were related to the engines, both turbo and (to a lesser extent) NA. Assuming our only choice is between 4 and 6 cilinder turbo engines, my educated guess is that this time the 6 cilinder turbo will be the safer choice, as they've had the time to work out the kinks. If the real thing lives up to the expectations, I would be more than willing to buy an early F30 335.
First year e90 had the 2.5 (N52B25) and 3.0 (N52). The turbo (N54) arrived in 2007 and the 325 was dropped for the 328 3.0 N52.
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You are right. I was referring to the first year for the coupe (which is what I drive).
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I honestly dont think it will be bigger, then the current model, since they keep trying to save weight/ space etc
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