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Old 11-26-2017, 09:29 AM
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New HU NBT EVO/EntryNav2 FSC

Hi

There is a new HU from 07/17 and in E-sys it is stated HU_EntryNav2 but i see that the FDL is stated HU_NBT_EVO2

Does anyone knows what are the App ?

HU_ENTRYNAV2[DiagAddress=99(0x63)]
x
RootCertStatus not available
SWSigStatus accepted
SWTApplications
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AppID 274(0x112)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 275(0x113)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 277(0x115)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 278(0x116)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 156(0x9C)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 111(0x6F)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 323(0x143)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 65535(0xFFFF)
UpgradeIndex 65535(0xFFFF)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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AppID 365(0x16D)
UpgradeIndex 1(0x01)
SWTType SWTclassic light
FSCStatus not available
FSCCertStatus not available
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:59 PM
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Head Unit is new HU_ENTRYNAV2 (aka EntryEVO) with WAY Map, and it replaces HU_ENTRYNAV with ROUTE Map for 606 Business Navigation Option.

FSC Codes:

AppID 274 (112) - Text-To-Speech
AppID 275 (113) - Voice Control (iSpeech)
AppID 277 (115) - Navigation Application
AppID 278 (116) - Navigation Application Asia
AppID 156 (9C) - BMW Apps
AppID 111 (6F) - SDARS (Sat Radio)
AppID 323 (143) - Apple CarPlay
AppID 365 (16D) - EntryEVO - Navi Permanent SLI Display ECE

I have no idea what AppID 65535(0xFFFF) is. I don't think there is such an FSC Code.
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Old 11-27-2017, 02:33 AM
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Head Unit is new HU_ENTRYNAV2 (aka EntryEVO) with WAY Map, and it replaces HU_ENTRYNAV with ROUTE Map for 606 Business Navigation Option.

FSC Codes:

AppID 274 (112) - Text-To-Speech
AppID 275 (113) - Voice Control (iSpeech)
AppID 277 (115) - Navigation Application
AppID 278 (116) - Navigation Application Asia
AppID 156 (9C) - BMW Apps
AppID 111 (6F) - SDARS (Sat Radio)
AppID 323 (143) - Apple CarPlay
AppID 365 (16D) - EntryEVO - Navi Permanent SLI Display ECE

I have no idea what AppID 65535(0xFFFF) is. I don't think there is such an FSC Code.
Hi Shawn

Do you have any existing FSC code for the EntryNav?

Would like to try whether I can activate the Navi via emulator
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Old 11-27-2017, 10:31 AM
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Hi Shawn

Do you have any existing FSC code for the EntryNav?

Would like to try whether I can activate the Navi via emulator
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Hi Shawn I just bought a 2017 entry NBT (magneti marelli single din) with touch controller and 8.8" screen from X1. Is it still same NBT just new smaller version? I'm going to retrofit it in my f30 2013
Can I get it activated via FSC or emulator only?


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Old 12-11-2017, 03:42 PM
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Hi Shawn I just bought a 2017 entry NBT (magneti marelli single din) with touch controller and 8.8" screen from X1. Is it still same NBT just new smaller version? I'm going to retrofit it in my f30 2013
Can I get it activated via FSC or emulator only?


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No. It ENTRYNAV Head Unit. You will need Emulator and donor FSC Codes. There are no non-OEM FSC Codes for ENTRYNAV that I have ever seen.
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No. It ENTRYNAV Head Unit. You will need Emulator and donor FSC Codes. There are no non-OEM FSC Codes for ENTRYNAV that I have ever seen.


So BMW added 8.8" screen and touch controller to hu_entrynav and some people including my self thought that it's new NBT, but is it a big difference from real NBT? Maps, hard drive, enhanced Bluetooth, speed?


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Old 12-11-2017, 04:18 PM
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So BMW added 8.8" screen and touch controller to hu_entrynav and some people including my self thought that it's new NBT, but is it a big difference from real NBT? Maps, hard drive, enhanced Bluetooth, speed?

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I don't know the specs on it. ENTRYNAV Head Unit is used for 606 Business Navigation and NBT is used in 609 Professional Navigation.

Then BMW AG decided with the X1 F48 that they could use ENTRYNAV but charge NBT prices for it, so they created the following options:

6UN - Navigation - EntryNAV Head Unit - 6.5'' Screen
6UP - Navigation Plus - EntryNAV Head Unit - 8.8'' Screen
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:20 PM
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I don't know the specs on it. ENTRYNAV Head Unit is used for 606 Business Navigation and NBT is used in 609 Professional Navigation.

Then BMW AG decided with the X1 F48 that they could use ENTRYNAV but charge NBT prices for it, so they created the following options:

6UN - Navigation - EntryNAV Head Unit - 6.5'' Screen
6UP - Navigation Plus - EntryNAV Head Unit - 8.8'' Screen


It's 6UP - navigating plus with 8.8" screen and touch controller came of 2017 X1


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Old 12-13-2017, 10:28 PM
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I don't know the specs on it. ENTRYNAV Head Unit is used for 606 Business Navigation and NBT is used in 609 Professional Navigation.

Then BMW AG decided with the X1 F48 that they could use ENTRYNAV but charge NBT prices for it, so they created the following options:

6UN - Navigation - EntryNAV Head Unit - 6.5'' Screen
6UP - Navigation Plus - EntryNAV Head Unit - 8.8'' Screen


I can't find emulator for entrynav
Would the newest NBT or NBT EVO emulator work for entrynav?


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Old 12-14-2017, 11:02 AM
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I can't find emulator for entrynav
Would the newest NBT or NBT EVO emulator work for entrynav?

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I believe NBT Emulator works for ENTRYNAV as well, but ask Seller.
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New HU NBT EVO/EntryNav2 FSC

So I'm going to retrofit entrynav (6UP) with rear view camera using emulator to my 2013 f30 which have businessnav (CIC) what options should I add or remove to my VO?

Remove 6vb add 6up (navigation plus 8.8")
Change 6nh to 6nl (enhanced Bluetooth + assist)
Add:
3ag (rear view camera)
Zbe (touch controller) with 0714
Tbx (touch controller ecu)


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Old 12-19-2017, 11:41 PM
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HU_ENTRYNAV2 options

Hi guys,
i have recently bought 118i with newly HU HU_ENTRYNAV2 with 6.5" display in it (aka HU_NBT_EVO, as it is specified in CAF i was able to read by E-SYS) .

I'm just wondering which options i could activate in addition to what i've aleady got.
Following options have been already specified in this topic:
AppID 274 (112) - Text-To-Speech
AppID 275 (113) - Voice Control (iSpeech)
AppID 277 (115) - Navigation Application
AppID 278 (116) - Navigation Application Asia
AppID 156 (9C) - BMW Apps
AppID 111 (6F) - SDARS (Sat Radio)
AppID 323 (143) - Apple CarPlay
AppID 365 (16D) - EntryEVO - Navi Permanent SLI Display ECE

So these three are the point of my intrest at the moment:
AppID 277 (115) - Navigation Application
AppID 156 (9C) - BMW Apps
AppID 323 (143) - Apple CarPlay

The questions i'd like to get answered by expirienced people are:
1) could the desired options be activated fo the HU i got in my car?
2) fsc codes: where? and how much?

I asume that to get the Navigation work i would need to install the gps antena at least (if it hasn't been istalled from the beginning).


Thanks!

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Old 12-20-2017, 07:15 AM
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Hi guys,
i have recently bought 118i with newly HU HU_ENTRYNAV2 with 6.5" display in it (aka HU_NBT_EVO, as it is specified in CAF i was able to read by E-SYS) .

I'm just wondering which options i could activate in addition to what i've aleady got.
Following options have been already specified in this topic:
AppID 274 (112) - Text-To-Speech
AppID 275 (113) - Voice Control (iSpeech)
AppID 277 (115) - Navigation Application
AppID 278 (116) - Navigation Application Asia
AppID 156 (9C) - BMW Apps
AppID 111 (6F) - SDARS (Sat Radio)
AppID 323 (143) - Apple CarPlay
AppID 365 (16D) - EntryEVO - Navi Permanent SLI Display ECE

So these three are the point of my intrest at the moment:
AppID 277 (115) - Navigation Application
AppID 156 (9C) - BMW Apps
AppID 323 (143) - Apple CarPlay

The questions i'd like to get answered by expirienced people are:
1) could the desired options be activated fo the HU i got in my car?
2) fsc codes: where? and how much?

I asume that to get the Navigation work i would need to install the gps antena at least (if it hasn't been istalled from the beginning).

Thanks!
Forget what CAF shows. You have HU_ENTRYNAV2 (aka EntryEVO) Head Unit. This is a new model, and not much is known about it. Assuming it can do Nav at the hardware Level after adding GPS Aerial, there are no "Fake" FSC Code options for it, at least not yet, so best bet is an Emulator and Donor set of OEM FSC Codes, assuming NBT Emulator works with ENTRYNAV2.
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:15 PM
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Forget what CAF shows. You have HU_ENTRYNAV2 (aka EntryEVO) Head Unit. This is a new model, and not much is known about it. Assuming it can do Nav at the hardware Level after adding GPS Aerial, there are no "Fake" FSC Code options for it, at least not yet, so best bet is an Emulator and Donor set of OEM FSC Codes, assuming NBT Emulator works with ENTRYNAV2.
Hi there,
over short break i come back to the idea to do something with the head unit i got with the car - it's entryEvo (entryNav2).
Options i got with the car:
6AE
6AF
6UD
6NH

The first thing i gonna try is to activate CarPlay.
For doing that i would need:
1) getting and impoting fsc code 143 (generated for my car)
2) adding option 6CP and coding the HU respectivly afterwards
Correct?
Maybe 6NH ->6NS needs to be done too?

I have already got a proposal from one of the bimmerfest fellow for fsc-codes (not only 143, but all possible codes for my HU, for quite afordable price). But i'm still quite doubtfull about success, because i'm currently understand very little about details of the coding process.

Questions to get answered:
1) fsc codes are specified as "SWTType SWTclassic light". Does it mean by generation there is an option which code-type to generate?
2) HU_ENTRYNAV2[DiagAddress=99(0x63)]
RootCertStatus not available - what exactly does it mean? Do i need to undertake some actions before importing fsc code(s)?
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Forget what CAF shows. You have HU_ENTRYNAV2 (aka EntryEVO) Head Unit. This is a new model, and not much is known about it. Assuming it can do Nav at the hardware Level after adding GPS Aerial, there are no "Fake" FSC Code options for it, at least not yet, so best bet is an Emulator and Donor set of OEM FSC Codes, assuming NBT Emulator works with ENTRYNAV2.
So I understand reading this that there is an NBT emulator that makes Entryevo work as an NBT in some features?

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So I understand reading this that there is an NBT emulator that makes Entryevo work as an NBT in some features?

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There is an NBT/NBT evo emulator that works with entrynav2 Ive tried it and it works
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3281...811213431.html
But obviously it works as entrynav2



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Hi there,

over short break i come back to the idea to do something with the head unit i got with the car - it's entryEvo (entryNav2).

Options i got with the car:

6AE

6AF

6UD

6NH



The first thing i gonna try is to activate CarPlay.

For doing that i would need:

1) getting and impoting fsc code 143 (generated for my car)

2) adding option 6CP and coding the HU respectivly afterwards

Correct?

Maybe 6NH ->6NS needs to be done too?



I have already got a proposal from one of the bimmerfest fellow for fsc-codes (not only 143, but all possible codes for my HU, for quite afordable price). But i'm still quite doubtfull about success, because i'm currently understand very little about details of the coding process.



Questions to get answered:

1) fsc codes are specified as "SWTType SWTclassic light". Does it mean by generation there is an option which code-type to generate?

2) HU_ENTRYNAV2[DiagAddress=99(0x63)]

RootCertStatus not available - what exactly does it mean? Do i need to undertake some actions before importing fsc code(s)?


Interested!!
I thought that you cant get fake FSC codes for entrynav2 and never know that it supports CARPLAY
Looking forward into that, keep updated


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Old 01-31-2018, 05:21 AM
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Interested!!
I thought that you cant get fake FSC codes for entrynav2 and never know that it supports CARPLAY
Looking forward into that, keep updated


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I dont know it for sure too!

I think, if the head unit gives the list of fsc codes and their status , it means it might work.

in any case, ill ask supplier about money back guaranty. if it wont fly, ill get my money back


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There is an NBT/NBT evo emulator that works with entrynav2 Ive tried it and it works
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3281...811213431.html
But obviously it works as entrynav2



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And what does It allows me to do? My car is a F48 It has 6up, navigation plus, 6Wa, HUD with Entrynav HU.

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Hi there,
over short break i come back to the idea to do something with the head unit i got with the car - it's entryEvo (entryNav2).
Options i got with the car:
6AE
6AF
6UD
6NH

The first thing i gonna try is to activate CarPlay.
For doing that i would need:
1) getting and impoting fsc code 143 (generated for my car)
2) adding option 6CP and coding the HU respectivly afterwards
Correct?
Maybe 6NH ->6NS needs to be done too?

I have already got a proposal from one of the bimmerfest fellow for fsc-codes (not only 143, but all possible codes for my HU, for quite afordable price). But i'm still quite doubtfull about success, because i'm currently understand very little about details of the coding process.

Questions to get answered:
1) fsc codes are specified as "SWTType SWTclassic light". Does it mean by generation there is an option which code-type to generate?
2) HU_ENTRYNAV2[DiagAddress=99(0x63)]
RootCertStatus not available - what exactly does it mean? Do i need to undertake some actions before importing fsc code(s)?
My F48 has entryNav2 as well, but strange I don't have 6NH. I tried adding 6NS, but it crashed the CAFD. What's the best way to enable EBT (and Office)?
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...I have already got a proposal from one of the bimmerfest fellow for fsc-codes (not only 143, but all possible codes for my HU, for quite afordable price). But i'm still quite doubtfull about success, because i'm currently understand very little about details of the coding process.
...
You better confirm they can provide for ENTRYNAV2 and not NNBT2, because as far as I know, there is no Fake FSC Code solution for ENTRYNAV2, at least not yet.
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Hello, can someone please help me with an FA for a car witch has hu_entrynav2 unit?
I have an hu_entrynav2 unit, but I can't flash it, or code it, because I don't have a goof FA for it.
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Hello, can someone please help me with an FA for a car witch has hu_entrynav2 unit?
I have an hu_entrynav2 unit, but I can't flash it, or code it, because I don't have a goof FA for it.
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