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F80/F82/F83 M3 and M4 (2015 - Current)
F80 BMW M3 sedan, F82 BMW M4 coupe and F83 M4 convertible forum. This 5th generation M3 and all new M4 features a 3.0 liter twin turbo engine (engine code S55) 425hp and 406lbs of torque! Heavy use of light weight materials makes this generation lighter and faster then the outgoing E9x M3.

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Old 11-17-2019, 09:41 AM
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Hello All, noob here. My current 3 series lease is over starting in August (ends Feb 2021) and I want an M car again. Not sure if I should get the 2020 m4 manual (lease) or wait for new model? What do you guys think?
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:18 AM
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There's always pent up demand for an M car when it comes out. That's because M's go out of production when the non-M siblings of their platform go out of production. But, it takes a year or two for the new M on the new platform to come out. That pent up demand means not a whole lot of discounts. The end-of-the-run M's are usually discounted, though. They're even discounting M2C's now.

You'd be hard pressed to use all the capabilities of the current M3/4. The next one will be slightly better, but I'm not sure how much better. There's also the threat of the new M''s having a GPF (gasoline particulate filter). DPF's are the big Achilles heel for diesels. So, buyer beware.

The new M3/4 may or may not have a manual, and if it does maybe later in production. There's supposedly an M3/5 "Pure" coming that will be bare bones and with a manual. But, it might not come out until later.

Since you're a leaser, I'd think grabbing a current M4 now, wait for all the early bugs and pent up demand for the next one to subside, and grabbing a next-gen' M3/4 in three years.
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:29 AM
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I had the same decision to make. I got a 2020 M4 on ED (waiting for redelivery) in late September. I went with the 2020 because I like the styling and Iím not sure what the new M4 will look like. I also prefer not to get a brand new generation because the earlier model is more refined and the kinks are worked out. I also didnít know how long I would have to wait for the next generation as sometimes itís another year after the standard model comes out.

On the other hand, getting a car at the end of its cycle means youíll have an ďolderĒ model much sooner. But that doesnít bother me as I keep my cars a long time and Iím used to having older models. I got the last year of the E30 and the E39 and have no regrets.

That my 2 cents.
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:52 AM
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Yes thank you both, that makes perfect sense and totally agree. One last question, supply for the M4 right now is very low (at least here in Houston), think it will increase by summer?
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:40 AM
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Yes thank you both, that makes perfect sense and totally agree. One last question, supply for the M4 right now is very low (at least here in Houston), think it will increase by summer?
I think end of production is the end of this year. Could be wrong. So you may not be able to order one and would have to find one somewhere on the lot.

I don't know if the new 4 grille will be as hideous as that picture but the "Concept 4" looks a lot like that. I can't stand this trend towards enormous grilles.

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There's always pent up demand for an M car when it comes out. That's because M's go out of production when the non-M siblings of their platform go out of production. But, it takes a year or two for the new M on the new platform to come out. That pent up demand means not a whole lot of discounts. The end-of-the-run M's are usually discounted, though. They're even discounting M2C's now.

You'd be hard pressed to use all the capabilities of the current M3/4. The next one will be slightly better, but I'm not sure how much better. There's also the threat of the new M''s having a GPF (gasoline particulate filter). DPF's are the big Achilles heel for diesels. So, buyer beware.

The new M3/4 may or may not have a manual, and if it does maybe later in production. There's supposedly an M3/5 "Pure" coming that will be bare bones and with a manual. But, it might not come out until later.

Since you're a leaser, I'd think grabbing a current M4 now, wait for all the early bugs and pent up demand for the next one to subside, and grabbing a next-gen' M3/4 in three years.


The new ///M will be available at launch in an MT/RWD configuration. The other configuration will be ZF AT/AWD.


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A third option is to hedge your bets by assuming a lease on an existing M4, or buying a low mileage CPO. That will tide you over till you can decide whether you like the new styling, and when the initial demand from orthodontists facing mid-life crises has died down. There are some pretty decent deals out there in the secondary market.
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OP lease ends in Feb 2021, I am sure the Gx M3/M4 should be in the marketalready, I'd say just wait until then to decide.

S58 is probably set to be in >525HP by then, BMW AG knows the competition from Alfa and Tesla and can't be conservative anymore. But I am afraid the insurance for RWD version may go through the roof, even the F8X rear ends is tail happy right now with 444HP
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OP lease ends in Feb 2021, I am sure the Gx M3/M4 should be in the marketalready, I'd say just wait until then to decide.

S58 is probably set to be in >525HP by then, BMW AG knows the competition from Alfa and Tesla and can't be conservative anymore. But I am afraid the insurance for RWD version may go through the roof, even the F8X rear ends is tail happy right now with 444HP


Accident claims (...along with value, age, driving record and years licensed) dictate rates, not so much the power/drivetrain itself. For example, when I was looking for a replacement for my Ducati 848 track bike a year ago, it came down to the Panigale V4 and the Panigale 959. The V4 is the powerful superbike with 214-ish HP while the 959 is the mid-range bike and is rated somewhere around 150 HP. The V4 base is about $22,000; the 959 base is around $15,000. Suffice it to say, the V4 was much cheaper to insure because of the lack of accident claims. My V4 payment plus insurance is less than my payment/insurance would have been on the cheaper, less powerful Panigale.


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