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Old 02-20-2015, 11:47 AM
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Audi A5 easier on the wallet than the 4 Series

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BMW’s 4 Series cost of ownership, kept it from making the top 3 in this years KBB 5-Year Cost to Own Awards. Audi however, showed once again, that it’s A5 is easier on the wallet over time and pulled into the top Luxury Car spot. The annual awards from Kelley Blue Book, the leading provider of new and used vehicle information, recognize vehicles with the lowest projected ownership costs.

”High quality of build and efficient, yet powerful performance are two hallmarks of Audi vehicles that contribute to a lower cost of ownership,” said Scott Keogh, President, Audi of America. “We’re proud to see the 2015 Audi A5 continue that trend with a 5-Year Cost to Own Award.”

The Audi A5 offers drivers and passengers exceptional performance and safety. For the 2015 Model Year, the A5 – powered by the 2.0 TFSI® turbocharged and direct-injected, four cylinder engine – produces 220 hp and 258 lb-ft. of torque. New for 2015 are 18’’ Exclusive 10-spoke wheels, navigation package with side assist, S line® exterior on A5 Premium Plus and standard Xenon headlights, dynamic range adjustment and LED taillights on A5 Premium. With the available Tiptronic® automatic transmission, the A5 Coupe achieves 22 city/31 highway/25 combined mpg while the A5 Cabriolet achieves 20 city/28 highway/23 combined mpg.
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Why do you post this crap that everyone here knows isn't true? Are you confusing this for an Audi forum? I apologize for being harsh, but I absolutely cannot figure out what reason Jon has for you being an admin on Bimmerfest.
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Out of curiosity I went to the KBB site and looked up their 5 year cost to own for the 4 series. This is what I found:
We're Sorry
We don't have 5-Year Cost to Own for this car
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I did find it for my 328GT. It beat the A5.

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The easiest way to troll this board is to say another car is better than a BMW followed closely by a discussion of the X28 vs X35.
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Why do you post this crap that everyone here knows isn't true? Are you confusing this for an Audi forum? I apologize for being harsh, but I absolutely cannot figure out what reason Jon has for you being an admin on Bimmerfest.
What are you defining as untrue?

http://www.kbb.com/new-cars/5-year-c...to-luxury-car/

No one buys a car in a vacuum or doesn't want to know how their brand stacks up to others. Why you're so offended by this is a big mystery to me.

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Aw c'mon. I see it as good humor going into a weekend.
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Why do you post this crap that everyone here knows isn't true? Are you confusing this for an Audi forum? I apologize for being harsh, but I absolutely cannot figure out what reason Jon has for you being an admin on Bimmerfest.
That's really harsh tt. Bernie is doing his job and you rip him? He's just reporting something that pertains to a direct competitor to the 4 series. Nothing wrong with that. It's good discussion fodder.
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This is very interesting and surprising indeed. Given the BMW provides 4-year free maintenance (and the obvious bumper-2-bumper warranty), the average 5th-year cost must be extremely high for it to cost more than the Audi A5 (which doesn't have 4 year free maintenance) over the first 5 years of ownership. It would be interesting to find out where the costs for the bimmer are coming from.
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Personally I never considered an Audi. Front wheel or AWD only and you can't get a decent engine unless you get a "S" car which are more expensive to a comparable x35 model.
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Every time I think about buying an Audi I just remember my last Audi (2001 A4 2.8) and all the problems.

Heater and AC problems.
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Wheel bearings lasting only 10k miles.
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That's really harsh tt. Bernie is doing his job and you rip him? He's just reporting something that pertains to a direct competitor to the 4 series. Nothing wrong with that. It's good discussion fodder.
agreed good info post !
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I don't find this surprising. The depreciation rate for bmw is high. Audi retains their value quite well.
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Every time I think about buying an Audi I just remember my last Audi (2001 A4 2.8) and all the problems.

Heater and AC problems.
Auto transmission problems.
Wheel bearings lasting only 10k miles.
Suspension problems.
Numerous oil leaks including head gasket failure.

Never again.
From all reports Audi's reliability has been on the upswing, especially in the last few model years. I went in with fingers crossed on our Audi purchase and 2+ years in zero issues. Two oil changes and that's it. No complaints so far.
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I was a VW guy for long time but had too many problems. My cousin is on her second Audi and they have been trouble free. Too be honet When I go car shopping the Audi is on the list.
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Why do you post this crap that everyone here knows isn't true? Are you confusing this for an Audi forum? I apologize for being harsh, but I absolutely cannot figure out what reason Jon has for you being an admin on Bimmerfest.
I'm not entirely sure why you are so upset. Seems like a legitmate post from Bernie.
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The easiest way to troll this board is to say another car is better than a BMW followed closely by a discussion of the X28 vs X35.
LOL! Where's BJ when you need him.....oh wait he's banned right?
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Does anyone who buys a BMW and Audi really use a KBB cost of ownership as a make or break decision? I've owned a lot of cars and I think in almost all cases my actual cost of ownership has always been lower. A post like this just elicits a

IMO any purchase in this segment is not driven by bottom line cost effectiveness. Cost effective is my 5 year old pick-up.

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What are you defining as untrue?

http://www.kbb.com/new-cars/5-year-c...to-luxury-car/

No one buys a car in a vacuum or doesn't want to know how their brand stacks up to others. Why you're so offended by this is a big mystery to me.

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That's really harsh tt. Bernie is doing his job and you rip him? He's just reporting something that pertains to a direct competitor to the 4 series. Nothing wrong with that. It's good discussion fodder.
Nothing really personal against Bernie. I've thought his job is mostly pointless since the very first post (I asked about the reasoning then) and I still do. This particular post isn't actually news. It's Audi marketing copy.
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maybe so, but when you lease it's the completely opposite situation.

I lease my 2015 300hp inline6 435 BMW with free maintenance for WAAAAAY less than a 2015 220hp nose heavy four banger end of model run A5 Audi without free maintenance.

I priced them both and it wasn't even close. BMW by a mile cheaper.
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Their calculation might ignore the free maintenance.

The insurance cost is problematic in their displays. In many states a 2-door 3/4 series BMW is extremely expensive and a sedan or convertible can come out a lot cheaper.

They have data in there that is very sensitive to specific car choices, that is why it didn't show data for a randomly picked 4.


Unfortunately the OP is a complete fail since it neither has a link to more information nor any information about what kind of 4-series was in play there.
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Is the BMW maintenance program "free" or "included" in the price of the car?
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Every time I think about buying an Audi I just remember my last Audi (2001 A4 2.8) and all the problems.

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Suspension problems.
Numerous oil leaks including head gasket failure.

Never again.
Our '11 Audi S4, knock on wood, has been trouble free so far.
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Why do you post this crap that everyone here knows isn't true? Are you confusing this for an Audi forum? I apologize for being harsh, but I absolutely cannot figure out what reason Jon has for you being an admin on Bimmerfest.
IMO, this blind aggressive fanboyism behavior is an embarrassment to any BMW owners who love cars in general.
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BMW’s 4 Series cost of ownership, kept it from making the top 3 in this years KBB 5-Year Cost to Own Awards. Audi however, showed once again, that it’s A5 is easier on the wallet over time and pulled into the top Luxury Car spot. The annual awards from Kelley Blue Book, the leading provider of new and used vehicle information, recognize vehicles with the lowest projected ownership costs.

”High quality of build and efficient, yet powerful performance are two hallmarks of Audi vehicles that contribute to a lower cost of ownership,” said Scott Keogh, President, Audi of America. “We’re proud to see the 2015 Audi A5 continue that trend with a 5-Year Cost to Own Award.”

The Audi A5 offers drivers and passengers exceptional performance and safety. For the 2015 Model Year, the A5 – powered by the 2.0 TFSI® turbocharged and direct-injected, four cylinder engine – produces 220 hp and 258 lb-ft. of torque. New for 2015 are 18’’ Exclusive 10-spoke wheels, navigation package with side assist, S line® exterior on A5 Premium Plus and standard Xenon headlights, dynamic range adjustment and LED taillights on A5 Premium. With the available Tiptronic® automatic transmission, the A5 Coupe achieves 22 city/31 highway/25 combined mpg while the A5 Cabriolet achieves 20 city/28 highway/23 combined mpg.
Interesting. Thank you for your informative post.
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