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Old 01-17-2020, 07:30 AM
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Rear Fog Lights

not sure where to put this,

But I noticed here in Canada, next to NO cars have rear fog lights, which actually is a bit of a Godsend, becuase brit's tend to think of them as driving lights and blind people and then DONT use them when it's foggy

So why are they not on cars in Canada (not sure about America) ?

I know we get Fig in the UK, but I'm sure you get it in NA LOL
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Old 01-17-2020, 07:36 AM
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In the US, probably not legal by FMVSS 108. CMVSS 108, through an adjunct called CMVSS 108.1, permits European headlamps, while FMVSS 108 prohibits them.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:28 AM
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ok, so not required, wonder why ?

Having driven in fog in the UK, you can clearly see a car in the distance with foggies on
but some dickwads do tend tend to use them in rain/snow or normal weather, for no apparent reason
and it tends to distract you as it gets confused with brake lights

Maybe that's why ?
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:01 AM
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This probably falls into the same category of reasoning as xenon adjusters, Americans are too stupid. All cars sold in the USA with xenon lights have automatic height adjustment while elsewhere they can get manual adjusters (thumbwheel on the dash) so we would probably only have rear fogs if they were controlled automatically.

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Old 01-17-2020, 10:14 AM
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yet they also have (not sure about the US) but here, if you flip the headlight switch to the 1st notch, front parkers come one but not the rear lights ,you have to have 2 notches,
so it looks like you hav'nt put your lights on, so dangerous, there's never a cop around when you need one.
in the UK back and rears always come on !

What's that quote from some car guy, "fixing the nut behind the wheel " GRRRR
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:16 AM
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I think part of the test should be a very hands on car part, when to put lights on, how to put lights on, when and how to use hazzords
like general safety, your driving around with 1/4 ton of killing machine often at high speeds with kids around, and you DONT know how your car works

beggars belief

When I see an accident here in Canada, I just thing, yeah, that was waiting to happen, I honestly find Canadians, really really can't drive,
there POLITE but can't drive and predestrian's/cyclists are not helping matters either

OM gosh,, I didn't mean to turn this into a rant sorry boyz !

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This probably falls into the same category of reasoning as xenon adjusters, Americans are too stupid. All cars sold in the USA with xenon lights have automatic height adjustment while elsewhere they can get manual adjusters (thumbwheel on the dash) so we would probably only have rear fogs if they were controlled automatically.

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Not too stupid...too narcissistic. Too many Americans live a life of "me" and ignore the impact on others. So too many would set the lights too high to give them good vision and the heck wsith blinding others.

I have been regularly blinded by drivers in large SUVs and trucks who turn on their fog lights and have them aimed high.
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...your driving around with 1/4 ton of killing machine often at high speeds with kids around, and you DONT know how your car works...
How much is ton in Canada? In the USA a 1/4 ton that would be super freakin' light weight!

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Not too stupid...too narcissistic. Too many Americans live a life of "me" and ignore the impact on others. So too many would set the lights too high to give them good vision and the heck wsith blinding others.



I have been regularly blinded by drivers in large SUVs and trucks who turn on their fog lights and have them aimed high.
Those truck drivers are everywhere.
I have found that a lot of Ohio drivers just naturally turn on their brights at night and have no regard for anyone else on the road regardless of what they are driving, or where. Around my area there isn't a lot of people driving with their brights on to begin with but probably more than half (cars not trucks) click them off for oncoming traffic.

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oh don't get me started on that sh*t, grinds my bloody gears ! LOL

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lol ton tonne lol, what ever
a car is heavy LOL

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How much is ton in Canada? In the USA a 1/4 ton that would be super freakin' light weight!

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lol ton tonne lol, what ever a car is heavy
I have had two that I could lift one end at a time; Austin American and FIAT Abarth Zagato Bilobero.

In HS we usta wedge a teacher's Isetta between trees. Also filled it with popcorn.
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My Land Rover & Volvo had standard rear fog lights but the front fog lights were optional. Jaguar & Mercedes had front & rear. My e70 now has rear fogs since I got a switch from across the pond. Funny how Mercedes has that rear corner parking light on an American spec car even though hardly anyone here would understand it's purpose. I remember having it on my Opel when I was stationed in Germany.
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