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F12 / F13 M6 & F06 M6 Gran Coupe (2012 - current)
The third generation M6 based on the BMW F12/F13 6 Series and shares its 7-speed M-DCT gearbox, BMW S63 V8 engine and other technology with the F10 BMW M5. The F06 M6 Gran Coupe, based on the F06 6 series also shares the same engine, transmission and technology.

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Old 04-16-2018, 03:41 PM
M6 in Bama M6 in Bama is offline
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Why doesn't the transmission have a P gear like every other automatic car on the planet? You can't sit there with the car running without having to set the parking brake.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:11 AM
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I was confused when I picked up mine too, getting used to it except when you drive your other vehicles and try to shut them off in D... lol
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Old 04-27-2018, 08:01 PM
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Because the M6 is technically not an automatic. Your gearbox is actually a manual, but an automated one. As we all know, manual gearboxes don’t have a P “gear”...


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My Panamera has a DCT also but it has a P position. In fact the M6 has a Park function. You just can't access it without turning the engine off.
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the gearbox mechanically is not built as an automatic. A manual transmission doesn't have a parking gear. With a manual, you shut down the car and either put the car in gear and/or engage the parking brake. The DCT is no different.
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Old 07-24-2018, 07:08 PM
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the gearbox mechanically is not built as an automatic. A manual transmission doesn't have a parking gear. With a manual, you shut down the car and either put the car in gear and/or engage the parking brake. The DCT is no different.
Like I said before, my Panamera has a dual clutch manual, yet it has a parking gear and operates much smoother at low speed than the M6. Seems Porsche does a better job with their PDK than BMW. No big deal, just don't think you can't have a DCT and a parking gear as well.
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:10 PM
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Like I said before, my Panamera has a dual clutch manual, yet it has a parking gear and operates much smoother at low speed than the M6. Seems Porsche does a better job with their PDK than BMW. No big deal, just don't think you can't have a DCT and a parking gear as well.
Pretty cool.

Can you tell us what, exactly, happens when you put your Panamera into 'park' mode? In other words what's different in the design, what does the 'park gear' do, and in your view, why is it inherently better?

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Old 07-25-2018, 07:12 PM
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Pretty cool.

Can you tell us what, exactly, happens when you put your Panamera into 'park' mode? In other words what's different in the design, what does the 'park gear' do, and in your view, why is it inherently better?

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I don't know what actually happens in the transmission. I just know I pull up to a curb, put it in park and get out of the car without getting a warning to prevent the car from rolling off. In the M6, you have to put the transmission in neutral then set the parking brake (and still you get the warning). In the Porsche, if you didn't know it, you couldn't tell you were driving a DCT. It drives just like a standard automatic, except for the incredibly quick shifts. Best of both worlds, shifts as fast as my M6, but has the comfort and convenience of a normal auto.

I like the motor, the steering and the handling better in the M6, but the transmission goes to Porsche. And it should, they put that tranny in every car they build.
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