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Gas is going to kill you in EU. No kidding. Everyone drives diesel over there.
Actually it's not that bad as you may think, even though here in Europe we use Diesels we don't stink, but surely we get our DPFs clogged -.-

I think Diesels, if manteined, gives far less problems and better performance over you American gas heads LOL

Seriously, have you seen the amount of torque they deliver? It's Impressing!

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Gas is going to kill you in EU. No kidding. Everyone drives diesel over there.


No question the 650 is thirsty and gas isn't cheap in France. Saying everyone is a broad generalization, however. Three cars in Dad's garage in France, all are gas powered.

As to cost, it's all relative. My reasoning:
1. I don't drive much in France at this time. Since September I have one fill up at about 80 euros. I can afford that. The most ill spend there is 6 months a year and maybe drive 8-10k km annually. Diesel not worth it for that kind of driving.
2. The other side of the equation is cost to ship a car I already owned free and clear for eight years vs buying one. I think I'm at around $2,500 for shipping, shipping insurance, customs fee, BMW homologation fee, DREAL fee, mods. For that relatively low cost I get to keep enjoying a car I still like a lot that I would have had to sell otherwise (I had it listed in BMW CCA Roundel mag last spring.). If I had bought a car there I probably would have gone for a Peugeot 308cc or RCZ, would have had to have low miles (under 20k), full equipment inc leather, and gas engine. I think I'd be looking at 10-15k euro for one of those. No idea how much they cost, that was just a SWAG, but it leaves a lot of money for gas.

FWIW I have a diesel powered X5 in the US so I'm well versed in diesel merits and drawbacks. I think in a large SUV, pickup or larger it makes sense. I am not convinced diesel has any benefits on smaller vehicles or for a car that is driven less than 20k miles a year.


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Gas is going to kill you in EU. No kidding. Everyone drives diesel over there.


No question the 650 is thirsty and gas isn't cheap in France. Saying everyone is a broad generalization, however. Three cars in Dad's garage in France, all are gas powered.

As to cost, it's all relative. My reasoning:
1. I don't drive much in France at this time. Since September I have one fill up at about 80 euros. I can afford that. The most ill spend there is 6 months a year and maybe drive 8-10k km annually. Diesel not worth it for that kind of driving.
2. The other side of the equation is cost to ship a car I already owned free and clear for eight years vs buying one. I think I'm at around $2,500 for shipping, shipping insurance, customs fee, BMW homologation fee, DREAL fee, mods. For that relatively low cost I get to keep enjoying a car I still like a lot that I would have had to sell otherwise (I had it listed in BMW CCA Roundel mag last spring.). If I had bought a car there I probably would have gone for a Peugeot 308cc or RCZ, would have had to have low miles (under 20k), full equipment inc leather, and gas engine. I think I'd be looking at 10-15k euro for one of those. No idea how much they cost, that was just a SWAG, but it leaves a lot of money for gas.

FWIW I have a diesel powered X5 in the US so I'm well versed in diesel merits and drawbacks. I think in a large SUV, pickup or larger it makes sense. I am not convinced diesel has any benefits on smaller vehicles or for a car that is driven less than 20k miles a year.


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As I said, a diesel if manteined it's the best, from fuel economy to performance, easy to maintain and doesn't have major problems (like N62 for example) such as oil & coolant leaks, Vanos etc; true that has to be driven for long distances, but you can do even less than 20k a yr no problem, no smell at all!! Only thing is the DPF & EGR that can get clogged if you use crappy petrol.

People usually don't like Diesels on cars or view it bad because no one uses it in America, main reason is because they want to get rid and sell less of it to reduce pollution, is viewed better on trucks where you need torque that gas cannot deliver.

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Big day today. The ‘Carte grise’ came in. It’s the equivalent of registration document.
That means I got it done, all the bureaucratic BS and is done, and it’s officially registered in France!!!
I go back in May. Plate swap coming up then.



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I am looking fwd to the plate swap.
My Dad was going to order funky shaped plates to match US size before I got there but I just talked to him and told him to hold off cuz it looks like there’s a trim piece on the rear bumper that can be taken off then I can stick a normal EU plate on, at least in the rear.
What’s killing me right now is I’m at SFO waiting to board a flight to Madrid (business trip) and I foolishly decided not to make the hop to my parents after I wrap up the work stuff. This could have been done next weekend. So close...


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Put the plates on today.
Couldn’t get the rear bumper trim piece off, didn’t try too hard. Rather than buying standard EU wide plates and trimming them as Dad wanted to do, I found a place online that sells US size place.

Before picture taken a few days back during 1,000 mile road trip over a long holiday weekend:
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Shipping the 650i to France

A bit of necro on my own thread.
Currently in France. Got here a couple of weeks ago. I did something stupid and had both keys in the US (for all three cars actually), so got to moms house and had to keep the rental car that we had initially planned to have for a one day one way trip from Paris to Normandy.
Worse, we were going down to Bordeaux and while I was looking forward to the dive in the 650 we had to take the Peugeot rental instead. Bummer. Anyone good with photoshop who can substitute a 650 for a 308?
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Have keys now so the 650 is being driven. No regrets shipping it to France rather than selling it for nearly nothing in the US.
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Worse, we were going down to Bordeaux and while I was looking forward to the dive in the 650 we had to take the Peugeot rental instead. Bummer.
Oh, the Horror


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A bit of necro on my own thread.
Currently in France. Got here a couple of weeks ago. I did something stupid and had both keys in the US (for all three cars actually), so got to moms house and had to keep the rental car that we had initially planned to have for a one day one way trip from Paris to Normandy.
Worse, we were going down to Bordeaux and while I was looking forward to the dive in the 650 we had to take the Peugeot rental instead. Bummer. Anyone good with photoshop who can substitute a 650 for a 308?
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Have keys now so the 650 is being driven. No regrets shipping it to France rather than selling it for nearly nothing in the US.
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Long time no see Fred.

At least getting the 650i out there is better than selling for peanuts in the states. Unfortunately, that's what I did with mine since I got tired of spending money on maintenance as the car got older.
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Long time no see Fred.

At least getting the 650i out there is better than selling for peanuts in the states. Unfortunately, that's what I did with mine since I got tired of spending money on maintenance as the car got older.
Didn't realize you had sold the 650, but based on your sig it looks like you're in a 2018 M3 instead? Not a bad replacement... Hope you love it.

The 650 is holding up well, but also only has 64k miles. It gets a lot of attention in France where it's even more rare to see one than in the US.
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Didn't realize you had sold the 650, but based on your sig it looks like you're in a 2018 M3 instead? Not a bad replacement... Hope you love it.

The 650 is holding up well, but also only has 64k miles. It gets a lot of attention in France where it's even more rare to see one than in the US.
Yea, I'm having a little trouble uploading a pic of the new car since I don't have the app anymore lol.

I do enjoy the M3 a lot although I do have a couple of issues(not enough to hate the car). First, the numb steering lacks feedback. Second, the DCT in first or second gear around 3,000 RPM can be a bit clunky if you don't floor it.

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Other than those two issues, the car is wonderful. Very fast for a compact sedan and I never feel like I don't have enough power although I've had thoughts about possibly tuning the car. Handling is great too.

At first, I was hesitant about driving a turbo M car since I've been used to NA cars, but this car changed my mind. Very responsive with little to no turbo lag.
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It’s been a bit over two years since the last ‘contrôle technique’ which is similar to the MOT in England and now also includes oil leaks as a failure point.
Given what we all know about leaky gaskets on our N62 engines, I had a shadow of concern but my engine is still holding oil and the car passed with a note about a fog light that needs adjustment.
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Time flies, huh?
It shipped out back in July 2017...


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