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Old 03-25-2019, 03:26 PM
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M850 conv or 911-4S conv?

I'm considering a 2019 M850 conv as a replacement to my 2015 911-4S conv. I drove the 850 for the first time today and really loved it. It seemed to have more power and more technology features than the 911 (granted my 911 is a 991.1). The 850 was also roomier and a much larger (15: longer) car. I'm not sure about the look of the 850. I may wait to see about the 992 when it comes out this summer. Any views on which car to go with?
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:30 PM
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On a BMW forum, you're bound to get a bit of bias, but it would seem to me that the M850i is more of a comfortable GT car that just so happens to be exceptionally fast, etc. (A recent review compared it to a Conti GT with better tech and a $150,000 savings, as an example.) The 911 would lean more toward the sporting end of the spectrum, although definitely with less space, less tech (maybe not the new one?), and the chance of more reliability issues. It sort of depends on what you're wanting out of your car. I've always loved the look of 911s, because it's always been the iconic sports car to me. Whenever I've driven one, though -- and I have on numerous occasions -- I always come away thinking that it would just be a bit less "practical" (not that any of these cars scream practicality, obviously) for my day-to-day needs.

I will be anxious to see the new 911, though. From pictures and videos, I sure love the (albeit subtle) changes.
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They are ENTIRELY different vehicles. The 911 is a sports car...period. Speaking from experience, nothing comes close to the 911's performance and handling. Also, not much goes wrong with this car. Porsche puts all of their engineering prowess into the 911, and it is all about performance. The only downside is practicality. The 911 makes a good DD, but Costco runs and long trips can be problematic. Vision is also great in the 911, but you still have to worry about other drivers seeing you. Urban driving in a sea of SUVs can get frustrating. If the 8 Series bears any similarity to the 6 Series cars, I would guess that power and comfort are the benchmarks for the car. As far as I can tell, the M2 is the only true sports car being built at BMW these days. This is not to suggest BMWs aren't drivers' cars or fun to drive anymore. It's just that BMW tries more to balance luxury, performance, and comfort into its cars. So, to the OP, you have to think about which features of the 8 Series and the 911 are more important to you. One final comment also from experience...BMWs depreciate a hell of a lot faster than Porsches.
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I agree with Leslie that you are comparing apples and oranges. The 911 is a sports car; the 8 series cars are grand tourers. They satisfy completely different needs.

911s need to be compared to other two seaters (I know there is another seat in the 911 but...really). The 8 series needs to be compared to the Mercedes SL coupe, the Lexus L couple, etc.

You need to decide what type of car you want; then pick among the choices.
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I agree with Leslie that you are comparing apples and oranges. The 911 is a sports car; the 8 series cars are grand tourers. They satisfy completely different needs.

911s need to be compared to other two seaters (I know there is another seat in the 911 but...really). The 8 series needs to be compared to the Mercedes SL coupe, the Lexus L couple, etc.

You need to decide what type of car you want; then pick among the choices.
Absolutely. I was actually behind a brand new Lexus LC500 in the line at Starbucks today and thought about how much of a cross-shopped competitor the car probably is to my M850i coupe. Of course, I much prefer my 8 in almost every way, but I'm not sure there are a lot of other natural competitors in the same price tier right now. The current MB S-Coupe is quite a bit more expensive (and, I think, not as athletic, certainly in non-AMG guise) once you option it up... and I honestly forget that the SL even exists anymore. (I did read the other day that the next gen SL will be transformed and eventually take the place of the S-Class convertible.)

Personally, I wanted a good-looking, tech-filled, fast-as-you-need, comfortable GT and the M850i fit the bill, particularly for the money. I'd have to jump several financial tiers to cars like the DB11 or ContiGT to get the same feeling I get behind the wheel of my 8.

I do wonder how the M8 will change the equation on such cross-shopping comparisons, though.
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An interesting development, given the conversation re: 911 vs. M850i...

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/04/25/p...-bmw-8-series/
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Haven't bought a 911 in a while. It's fun but would probably best enjoyed as a 2nd or 3rd car.

The 8 for its size. Love the GT aspect of it and touring or even just driving it for any prolonged periods of time won't take a toll on your body.

Once hesitation: the seats in my 6 convertible were good looking but tiring. Hope they have improved them in the 8.

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The 8 for its size. Love the GT aspect of it and touring or even just driving it for any prolonged periods of time won't take a toll on your body.
The seats in my 6 conv were good looking but tiring. Hope they have improved them in the 8.
As someone who owned several 6 Coupes and one 6GC, I can confirm that YES, the seats are MUCH improved in the M850i. The seats in my last 6ers were one of its weak points, I always believed. I was initially concerned about the seats in the 8er because they don't have an articulating backrest and they don't have the massage feature, but they are SO good even without either of those features that I don't even miss them.
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