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Old 10-12-2019, 03:11 PM
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Best bang for the buck transmission filter kit?

Are there any solid off brands? Go!
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:38 PM
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Give us an example of what you are trying to replace, a 'brand name'.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:53 PM
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Something like this:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F163652060477
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No way. Donít eBay it. I would get one of the few that are listed on FCPEuro. I personally would only use ZF brand for my ZF. FCPEuro will give you a lifetime warranty.


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Old 10-12-2019, 10:30 PM
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Old 10-13-2019, 09:07 AM
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Are there any solid off brands? Go!
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No.
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OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer... EITHER the company that made the OE part or.... A part this is identical to the OE part, but is sold by the OEM under their own label


OEM is not what BMW sells


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Old 10-13-2019, 11:13 AM
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Let me clarify, if anyone knows where I can find the ZF parts sold for less that have the ZF logo ground off, that's the kind of parts I'm looking for. You can find the same parts or as good parts for much less than a part that comes in the OEM box.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:34 AM
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Let me clarify, if anyone knows where I can find the ZF parts sold for less that have the ZF logo ground off, that's the kind of parts I'm looking for. You can find the same parts or as good parts for much less than a part that comes in the OEM box.
A ZF pan is around $100 dollars on FCP Euro. I'm not sure why you'd want to find something of lesser quality.
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Old 10-13-2019, 12:46 PM
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Quality is not always closely coupled to price in the aftermarket parts game. There are a number of distribution channels and price point markets.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:06 PM
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Quality is not always closely coupled to price in the aftermarket parts game. There are a number of distribution channels and price point markets.
I'm all with you on this...but, you have to be pretty sure what you are getting. That's the problem. My own thought process is that I would not use an eBay (or anywhere else) could-be-sketchy part for something that can cause serious collateral damage and/or take a lot of time and/or money to do over should it not work out.

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Old 10-13-2019, 10:57 PM
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If youre balking at $100 for a real part then just throw caution to the wind and buy something on eBay.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:50 PM
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I take your feedback. One hundred is not bad- but when a forum bands together to track and document the optimal part per maintenance item, everyone wins. The tranny pan is a ****ing 2 dollar piece of plastic. It's absurd, regardless of how much you make per year. **** like that is why we have terms of services that say we can't work on tractors we bought. Or we are responsible for seeds that drift to our land. DIY needs to fight back, or this country is F'd. Kinda Mello-dramatic, but I hate bull**** and lazy business models. Forums are a great counterweight. It would be great to see a living document of the optimal parts, but then again, I'm two bottles deep. : ) Your point is taken.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:01 AM
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I take your feedback. One hundred is not bad- but when a forum bands together to track and document the optimal part per maintenance item, everyone wins. The tranny pan is a ****ing 2 dollar piece of plastic. It's absurd, regardless of how much you make per year. **** like that is why we have terms of services that say we can't work on tractors we bought. Or we are responsible for seeds that drift to our land. DIY needs to fight back, or this country is F'd. Kinda Mello-dramatic, but I hate bull**** and lazy business models. Forums are a great counterweight. It would be great to see a living document of the optimal parts, but then again, I'm two bottles deep. : ) Your point is taken.








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Old 10-14-2019, 08:54 AM
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like that is why we have terms of services that say we can't work on tractors we bought
Right-To-Repair laws are necessary and some are gaining traction.

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Or we are responsible for seeds that drift to our land.
Insane...Monsanto sucks.
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Old 10-15-2019, 10:31 AM
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I think he is asking if there's an OEM mfg. for the filter at a lower price. Unfortunately, ZF is the OE company that makes the filter for BMW. Their price is about $100 from them rather than the dealers marked up same filter. All others are "knock offs" of unknown quality. For this transmission, you are better off staying with the ZF brand, IMO. Your choice at this point.

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Old 10-15-2019, 11:11 AM
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I'd be willing to bet ZF sells their pan to some third-party parts companies as well. That's what he's talking about. For example, can I get the Dorman sold pan and is it the same exact part, made in the same factory, as the genuine ZF part. There are many parts for which that answer is yes. For this part, I don't know. In some cases they do go to the effort of grinding off the manuf logo from the part.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:43 AM
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Or the manufacturer obliterates the logo from product not meeting specifications and sold outside normal front-door channels - a back door deal.
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Or the factory just lets the line run an hour longer and sells them out the back door

I worked for a hi-tech company for many years. One time we had an RMA of one of our, very expensive, optical boards. We didn't have that serial number in the database. We got the board replaced and received the defective board. After much research we found out that the contract manufacturer in Asia had run the production line beyond what we had specified and sold the extra boards through alternate channels - think eBay. It was, in all respects, exactly the same with the same parts and went though the same quality control and verification.
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I got my fluid/filter through The Transmission Supply Company. They sell a complete kit for $258 and yes the fluid is genuine ZF. Took a lot of reading through the forums, but I saw this recommendation and jumped on it.

https://www.thectsc.com/products/oil...ai-187-61.html

Changed both my 528 about 50k miles ago, and my X5 about 25k ago, and they have been running great
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:03 PM
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I got my fluid/filter through The Transmission Supply Company. They sell a complete kit for $258 and yes the fluid is genuine ZF. Took a lot of reading through the forums, but I saw this recommendation and jumped on it.

https://www.thectsc.com/products/oil...ai-187-61.html

Changed both my 528 about 50k miles ago, and my X5 about 25k ago, and they have been running great

This for 100 Alex!! Just used their kit and oil for my 2010 535i M and previously on my 04 530i.
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:06 PM
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I think that the kit for an E70 X5M like mine is this one:
https://www.thectsc.com/products/oil...ti-190-61.html. just thought I'd post it for others - I'm going to order one tomorrow.
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Thanks for the pro tips, guys!
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