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Old 06-07-2019, 10:11 AM
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So I was thinking about buying a nice CPO 2018 750i which I saw at a dealer for $60K BELOW msrp. I know BMW has had problems with their V8 engines in the past, so I did a google search and found a page on Carcomplaints.com dated May 26, 2019 that mentions a class action lawsuit that was filed against BMW's N63TU engine for consuming excessive amounts of oil:

"The proposed BMW class action lawsuit includes the N63TU engine and any of its variants, engines that are allegedly as defective as the N63 engines, the predecessor of the N63TU.

BMW's N63 engines have already been involved in past class action lawsuits, and the plaintiff in this newest suit claims the automaker still has never fixed the alleged defects.

The N63TU lawsuit alleges owners must spend a lot of money to constantly put oil in the cars and face the prospect and expense of damaged engines.

Plaintiff Thomas Isley says he purchased a 2015 BMW X5 xDrive50i equipped with an N63TU engine in 2015. In early 2018, BMW replaced the engine in the X5 because he had to routinely add 6-8 quarts of oil between oil changes which the plaintiff paid for out-of-pocket.

However, Isley says the new engine didn't fix the oil consumption problem and he still must constantly add oil to the N63TU engine."

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2...-lawsuit.shtml

The N63TU engine can be found in the following vehicles:
2013-2019 BMW 750i / 750Li
2013-2018 BMW 650i
2013-2019 BMW 650i Gran Coupe
2013-2016 BMW 550i GT
2014-2016 BMW 550i
2017-2019 BMW M550i
2018-2019 BMW M850i
2014-2019 BMW X5
2014-2019 BMW X6
2018-2019 BMW X7
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:13 AM
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"And any of it's variants"

That will be a tough sell. BMW is on their 4th or 5th variant of the N63, that would make it a very broad and potentially complex lawsuit.

I highly doubt anything will come of it for the variant in the G12 any time soon, too new and not enough issues reported to my knowledge.
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Old 06-17-2019, 06:07 PM
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BMW V8 engines alway burn oil! It usually, 1 qt for every 800-1,000 miles when new and get worse as it ages!


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Old 06-18-2019, 06:10 AM
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Not all burn oil. Mine hasn't. 17000 mi. 2 3/4 years. I have never had to add oil. I was meticulous about break-in because that's the way I was trained by my Dad. Not sure that is what did the trick.

In any event, a class action lawsuit does not mean there is a general problem on the TU's. All it means is a lawyer was able to write a complaint.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:12 PM
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10K miles here. My car never burns oil. I do not have to add anything between oil changes. I do change the oil every 5K miles though. Also the break-in has been done by the book.
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What should I look out for if I am looking at used 2016-2018 750i? Is this a huge problem or internet hype?

I plan to buy from a BMW dealer.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:01 AM
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Get a 2018. They seem to have cleaned most of the bugs if not all. I would stay away from 2016 as it was the first year of G11/G12
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Get a 2018. They seem to have cleaned most of the bugs if not all. I would stay away from 2016 as it was the first year of G11/G12
always good to avoid the first year in a model change cycle. There are 17s coming off lease now, and there are pretty good deals on leftover 19's new.
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What should I look out for if I am looking at used 2016-2018 750i? Is this a huge problem or internet hype?

I plan to buy from a BMW dealer.
I recently picked up a CPO 2016 740i from a BMW dealer. First, realize that this does not guarantee a better experience.
But at least you have a direct path to BMW corporate if things get really nasty as the car went through the CPO process.

Being new to euro car ownership I just got together with the owner of my local independent Europeon Peformance shop and chatted with him about the reliability. It came up organically as we were talking about maintenace and tuning in general. He said that I made the right choice buying a 740 rather than a 750 because "the 50's just simply break themselves, a lot". He stated that it's not just the 750's but also others with the engine such as the 550. I offered up that perhaps that's why they made the grilles so much larger this year to try to cool the engine better. He said "maybe but I still don't think that engine will ever be reliable".

So, I'd say while there are always exceptions and you could get lucky this is probably not just internet hype.

Also, I'd ask yourself to really think if/why you need/want a 750i vs 740i. I'm honestly interested to hear thoughts. I started my search looking at X5s and then gravitated towards the 7. With both vehicles I initially was leaning towards the V8 to one up my brother but in the end went with a six. It's a big car and the 2016+ 740i hits 60 in 5.5 seconds and continues to pull well from there. While it's cornering prowess feels amazing compared to the Infiniti QX50 I just came out of it's still a limo and the 750's extra power isn't all that much more usable day to day.

As someone that used to modify everything that I could on my cars and has driven several 400hp+ beasts. I'm now in week three of the 740 and thinking less and less of tuning it for another 40-60hp because it just does't "need" it. A little more fun every now and again but there's no where to legally use it. As stock I stomped on it from a stop light in Sport Plus and was doing 80 in short order.

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Old 06-26-2019, 03:14 PM
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"Need" is an irrelevant concept - at least for me. It is more "want" -- or I would buy a Toyota.
I had an older 7 series with a 6 (I think it was a "735") and always felt it was lacking something. so I looked at V8s. I liked the 750 more. I liked its standard setup better than the 740s, and I was leasing. I did do some investigation and the N63TU seems to have solved the earlier 8 cylinder issues. And did I say i was leasing? No engine issues so far (about 18,000mi) after 31 months and I'll likely order another before my lease is up. Do I think you are making a mistake with a CPO 740? Not at all. Buying a 740 used may be a smart tack to take.
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"Need" is an irrelevant concept - at least for me. It is more "want" -- or I would buy a Toyota.
I had an older 7 series with a 6 (I think it was a "735") and always felt it was lacking something. so I looked at V8s. I liked the 750 more. I liked its standard setup better than the 740s, and I was leasing. I did do some investigation and the N63TU seems to have solved the earlier 8 cylinder issues. And did I say i was leasing? No engine issues so far (about 18,000mi) after 31 months and I'll likely order another before my lease is up. Do I think you are making a mistake with a CPO 740? Not at all. Buying a 740 used may be a smart tack to take.
Yea I could go either way too for sure. I agree with the need / want. I was in the same boat. Hence why I asked, just curious.
In the end needed a car, didn't care enough to hunt for a good 750 and a loaded 740 was starring me in the face one day at the dealer while I while I was walking away from an X5.
After the fact I started reading a lot about the grenade V8s. Now I'm half tempted to buy a smaller M car or Z to screw around with and keep the 7 for under the radar mile munching. Or maybe a high end stereo for the 7... I need a project.

I was more responding the the OP and the quoted msg. Glad to hear you got a good one! I bet it's a blast on the open road!

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