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Old 03-04-2011, 02:14 PM
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Need help with location of the fuse boxs and overview of fuse positions for 528i?

I am wondering where I can find the fuse box on my 528i and if anyone could post an overview of where all the fuses are supposed to be located?

I don't have a service manual and need to find out if have blown fuses or not. (Also so that I can put fuses in the correct places).

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I don't have a service manual
Is it in the PDF of your owners manual?
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I don't have an owners manual either.

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The fuse box is the trunk above the battery...
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also inside the glove compartment
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And the owners manual PDFs are in the VERY best of E39 Links.
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... and under the carpet at the front of the right front seat.

You REALLY should break down and buy the E39 Bentley Service Manual, esp if you plan to do any electrical troubleshooting at all! This model is not simple!
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Fuse diagrams. Post #1 & post #3

P.S. : The fuse diagrams are not in the owner's manual.
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The fuse diagrams are not in the owner's manual.
That's good to know. Thanks.

To the OP. Sorry. I misspoke.
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Look in the compartment at the top of the glovebox, where one of the fuse panels sits. There's a card that pulls out with a little thumb tab. That's the diagram of the fuses in that panel. For the trunk panel, pull back the battery cover on the right-hand side of the trunk. It has the diagram for the fuses in there. As for the one under the passenger side carpet in front of the seat, I'll have to check that one out myself.
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1. passenger Side E-Box (under cabin filter housing).

2. Glovebox

3. Under front Passenger Seat (under carpet).

4. Trunk.
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Hi Cam,
I always wondered where ALL the fuses & fusible links were located. Thanks.

I did a quick search and then created a bestlink with this info:
(Keywords used were "E39" "fusebox" "fuse box" "fusible link")

- Where to find E39 fuse boxes (1) (WDS) & how to find the front passenger seat undercarpet fuse panel (1)

Every time I look anything up, MORE QUESTIONS pop up:
Q1: Do we have high-current "fusible links" in other places in the E39?
Q2: Are any individual devices individually fused in the E39?
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Thanks man! Do you have an overview of what the different fuses are for as well? With the number etc. For example I want to know which fuses are for the fog lights in the front.

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Old 09-18-2011, 09:59 AM
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1. passenger Side E-Box (under cabin filter housing).
2. Glovebox
3. Under front Passenger Seat (under carpet).
4. Trunk.
I'm looking for all the fuses & what they do in order to debug for here:
- Warning: I charged my battery today & apparently killed my instrument cluster & MID

I see this information, as to where each fuse is, what size it is, and what it does is scattered about (with some pictures requiring logins on other web sites to view); so I'll try to assemble what I can find into this thread.

Note: It seems harder to find the ebox and the under-seat fuse descriptions than it is to find the glovebox and batterybox descriptions.

Location of the fuse boxes (as cn90 said):
  1. Passenger side e-box (under the cabin filter housing).
  2. Glovebox
  3. Under front passenger seat (under carpet).
  4. Trunk batterybox (above the battery)
Here is a 1998 540i fuse guide from bimmerforums:
- E39 Glove Compartment and Trunk Fuse Guide

1998 540i glove box fuse guide:


1998 540i trunk batterybox fuse guide:

E39 glovebox fusebox access (kindly supplied by QSilver7):


E39 trunk batterybox fusebox access (kindly supplied by QSilver7):

The under-passenger-seat under-carpet fuses are harder to find:
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > fuse diagram



As for accessing this under-seat-carpet fusebox:
- Roadfly Secondary Air Pump replacement

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To get to the fuse box under the passenger side carpet, first you have to remove the black trim along the door sill. The plastic clips hold it in. You can pry it up and it'll pop off. Then remove the small plastic trim in front of that (where the right front kick panel is). Then fold the carpet back. Have fun because the carpet is tough!! The fuses are located under ANOTHER foam material. If you open the pass door, and where it says "BMW" on the doorsill, the fuse is about 6" above the sill, and 6" in front of the "W" in the BMW.
And from this thread, we have additional details:
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > fuse diagram

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After removing all the plastic trims as described above around the lower side of the door, the passenger seat has to be loosened (no need to remove it from the car) and tilted back in order to pull the carpet up. After the carpet is pulled up, then a foam has to be removed to expose the fuse box. The fuse box is covered by two plastic covers. Be careful though, the circuit is HOT, i.e. the 12V is alive even with no key in ignition. Luckily, there is no GND or metal around this area.

There are a row of 8 fuses as shown. The fuse for the secondary air pump is on the far left.
While we know the secondary air pump is there, we need a list of fuses located under the seat and in the ebox and their amperage and purpose.

Looking here:
- Need help with location of the fuse boxs and overview of fuse positions for 528i?
- Location of fuses 75 & 76

I find cn90's picture of the ebox fuses (for a vehicle with a manual transmission):
Quote:
Originally Posted by cn90
That picture is BELOW the passenger side cabin Filter area.
- Open the hood.
- Remove the cabin Filter HOUSING on the passenger side.
Then you will see this.
Note: In a different thread, cn90 explains some of the fuse purposes:
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > Fuses under fresh air filter on E39

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I just took a pic of my car Fuse Box under Cabin Filter (it is a 1998 528i 5-speed so only one DME; 2nd slot next to DME is empty because no Automatic Trans Computer); one of your 30A Fuses controls the O2 sensor. You mentioned Fuse #2 from the Left (or counting from the FRONT to REAR).
Fuse #2 is probably the Fuse controlling the O2 sensor.



Here is an ebox from a 97 528i in this thread (with an automatic transmission):
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > Electrical Scare!!!!

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The main difference is:
- Yours is Automatic (there is an extra ECU for A.T.).
- My car is Manual Trans so that space is empty.

The proper way to test a relay is NOT by shaking it.
Use the Bosch testing procedures. Make sure you understand the concept between 4-prong relay and 5-prong relay (which by itself has 2 types, 2 x 87s or 87a and 87b):
http://www.bcae1.com/relays.htm



I find a clue about the ebox fuses digging some more, and seeing this EAC Tuning post in this thread:
- Fuses under fresh air filter on E39
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Those fuses are for the DME and EGS (engine and transmission) computers if I understand what you are describing correctly. I would have it checked out, a couple popped fuses is one thing but a fried control module can be very expensive.


WIP WIP WIP (not finished yet) ... until we have a description of every fuse in the car (including those in the ebox and in the underseat fusebox).
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Looking at my trunk fusebox caused more questions than it answered!

Here is the sticker on the inside of the battery door:

Note: Yellow circles are the fuses in my 2002 BMW 525i:

And, here is a picture of what it's trying to represent:

Note: Yellow lines are the fuses in my 2002 BMW 525i:


Some questions that arise:
Q: What is the "on board monitor"?
Q: I don't have a CD changer in the trunk (I have the single-CD BMW Business CD player in the dash); so why the 30-amp fuse in position 56?
Q: I don't have a 'telephone' (but I do have the wiring); so why the 10 amp fuse in position 57?
Q: What are the purposes of the three relays above the fuse box?

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Nice glovebox fuse description from here
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > No rear windows working & locks & trunk

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My car is a 98 540i, so I am not sure if the fuse locations are the same.
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Looking at my trunk fusebox caused more questions than it answered! ...

Some questions that arise:
Q: What is the "on board monitor"?
Q: I don't have a CD changer in the trunk (I have the single-CD BMW Business CD player in the dash); so why the 30-amp fuse in position 56?
Q: I don't have a 'telephone' (but I do have the wiring); so why the 10 amp fuse in position 57?
Q: What are the purposes of the three relays above the fuse box?
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1. The onBoard monitor would be the 4:3 Nav screen or 16:? (wide) Nav screen (if so equipped).

2. If you have the "pre-wired for CD" button in your trunk...that would be the reason for for having the 30 amp fuse #56 already installed (just as you would have the wiring pre installed)...but you also have a radio installed...thus, it too, requires the 30 amp Fuse #56...so it will be installed for that component as well.
3 pre-wired buttons in my Touring can be seen along the LEFT side of the rear cargo side panel


the 2 pre=wired buttons are located on the left side of the trunk near the AUDIO component fold down door in this image of an e39 sedan below:
3. Again, if you have the phone's "pre-installed" button in the trunk...that is why you have fuse #57 installed as well as the "wiring" for the defunct/obsolete analog cell phone.
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4. I'll pass on this one because if memory serves me right...I think you've found this information out already.
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This information posted today on another thread may be useful:
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Last night I worked on my car & I may have crossed wires on my O2 and this post (hopefully) shows the fuse I need to change since after the O2 was fixed, the fuel trim is running open loop. Thanks much, I think this is a valuable photo.

==

Also found this wiring diagram at..
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...t=41222&page=2
..not sure if applies for e39 528, looks to be a valuable thread.



..also contains this wire color cross reference, I think if hand-wiring an O2 sensor, not sure if correct..
Info compliments of Dale Burdette.

Added the O2 sensor wire colors to the following print.

-------------------------------X62xxx
Fuse 204 rt/ws = red/white---pin 1---Sensor ws = white
DME bn = brown---------------pin 2---Sensor ws = white
DME sw = black----------------pin 3---Sensor gy = gray
DMW ge = yellow--------------pin 4---Sensor sw = black

==

..also found this info at..
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...=524363&page=2

Originally Posted by JimLev View Post
The fuse functions are in Bentleys, but depending on the year and model you have they don't always match the Bentleys description, see page 610-34.
This is fuse panel 3 for F1 to F5
According to Bentleys:
F1 open (no fuse)
F2 30 Amps, Fuel injectors, Engine control module
F3 20 Amps, Cam sensors, MAF, Crank Sensor, Thermostat
F4 30 Amps, Heated O2 sensors, Tranny control module
F5 30 Amps, Unloader relay, power to coils

Here is what my 2000 540/6 really has. (might be more that below, this is what I could trace out)
F1 30 Amps, MAF, Cam sensor #1, DME, T-Stat, Evap emission valve
F2 30 Amps, Fuel injectors, Both Vanos solenoids, Cam sensor #2, Secondary air injection pump electrical valve.
F3 30 Amps, Cam sensors, MAF, Crank Sensor, Heated O2 sensors.
F4 30 Amps, DME
F5 30 Amps, Unloader relay, power to coils

update - There is a 20A fuse in F3 and that was blown, so not like either of above. Replaced, clear codes, fuel loop working again. The fuse box is hard to work with, poor design IMO. First need to bend long plastic tab and lift the bezel up just enough so it doesn't reclip, then I needed needle nose pliers to grab the bezel and wiggle the fuse module up and out. Then to get the bezel off there's good photos here:
http://blog.bavauto.com/5677/bmw-e46...derhood-e-box/

..but I slid it off by prying sideways underneath. Inspected but really didn't see the actual tab or mechanism keeping it from sliding.
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For the record, JimLev kindly posted a DME fuse picture in this thread just now:
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Here's the fuse block you are looking for.
If the fuse is blown I'd take the cover off the black plastic box above the valve cover just to make sure the wires aren't melted and possibly shorted out.
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For the record, I reorganized the fuses for the E39 over here while debugging parasitic drain:
> E39 (1997 - 2003) > In progress: Step by step diagnostic DIY ... dead battery ... parasitic battery drain

For the record, DME ground wires and other ground wires are covered here:
> E39 (1997 - 2003) > Tighten your ground wire today

Great pictures of the underseat and glovebox fusebox wires are in these threads:
>
E39 Electric Memory Seat Install Guide 'How to' PIC HEAVY
> DIY Retrofit Rear Electric Blind
> How to: OEM Front heated seat retrofit
> The fun I had fitting electric comfort seats
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I don't have a service manual

Thank you for any help!
Here is a link to BMW's
1 dealer service manual - TIS
and
2 wiring diagrams - WDS

http://spaghetticoder.org/

And I noticed one of the other posts gave you a link to the owner's manual.

EDIT: and you have now seen there is LOTS of help here in this forum.

EDIT2: the Bentley manual can be useful too. But for wiring, I recommend WDS every time. Bentley often omitts circuit diagram changes that evolved over the E39 platform lifecycle.

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I recommend WDS
So that folks can find fuses and the WDS easily, this is in the bestlinks:
- Where to find E39 fuse boxes (1) (2) (WDS) (WDS.ru) & how to find the front passenger seat undercarpet fuse panel (1)

Also, today there was a related thread looking for fuses over here:
> E39 (1997 - 2003) > 528i fuse diagram
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Need a glovebox fuse diagram for a 1998 5281
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Sorry to bump such an old thread. But if the fuse under the seat got wet would it cause the headlights, A/C & heater, windshield wipers, driver power seats, gauge lights, horn, and power window to stop working? Thanks
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Sorry to bump such an old thread. But if the fuse under the seat got wet would it cause the headlights, A/C & heater, windshield wipers, driver power seats, gauge lights, horn, and power window to stop working? Thanks
The aforementioned thread lists the fuses that are under the seat.
Notice some of them are the first fuse before the glovebox, where many fuses lie.
So, it you follow the trail as shown in this thread, you'll probably see the pattern you're looking for.
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UNDER PASSENGER SEAT: (see more details in this thread & this thread)
F107 = 50A, SAS airpump Special Fuse: BMW PN 6113836590 (rdl says it's the secondary air relay fuse)
F108 = 50A, [QSilver7 says this is for the ABS/DSC control unit] (rdl says it's the "motor relay") (rdl clarifies that the F108 "motor relay" fuse supplies ASC or DSC) (rdl says his F108 is 50A)
F109 = 80A, [QSilver7 says this is for the DME (motor electronics)] (rdl says it fuses the Ebox EF1 and the DME relay in the ebox) (rdl says his F109 is 80A)
F110 = 80A, Power supply F1-F12 and F22-F26 (rdl says this fuses about 17 fuses, up to F45) found in the glovebox)
F111 = 50A, Data link connector/ Ignition switch (rdl confirms this is the ignition switch fuse)
F112 = 80A, Light control module (rdl confirms this is the LCM fuse)
F113 = 80A, Power supply F13 and F27-F30/ Light Module (rdl says it fuses the LCM and several fuses in glovebox plus in some cars a "closed-circuit current cutout relay" which then feeds a fuse in glovebox)
F114 = 50A, Data link connector/ Ignition switch (rdl confirms this is for the ignition switch and diagnostic plug)

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