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Old 06-13-2015, 07:09 PM
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Door Stuck Closed HELP!!!

I am having a problem with my drivers door, the door will not open via the interior door handle or the external handle. I believe the issue is the door locking mechanism. If locked I can pull twice and the knob goes up, and even if pulled twice nothing. Any ideas how I can open the vehicle.
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Old 06-13-2015, 07:11 PM
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I forgot to mention the vehicle is an 05 545 i
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Old 06-13-2015, 09:51 PM
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So if you unlock the door with the key ,, the handle won't open the door ?

I think you have a deadlocked door ..

The drivers door lock cylinder allows for manual locking/deadlocking and unlocking .

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Deadlocking

A deadlocked door cannot be opened from inside or outside .
A door is deadlocked if the vehicle is locked via the drivers door lock cylinder or the remote control
Conditions :
- terminal R off
- Drivers door or front passenger door was opened
- drivers door closed
When the vehicle is deadlocked ,the anti-theft alarm DWA is also primed
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:39 AM
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The door cylinder does move the knob up and I can open the windows with the key in the cylinder, I have tried opening the door using the interior and exterior handles simultaneously and still nothing. I can hear then the key is in the lock and it turns fine. Not sure about deadlocking, how would I attempt to fix this????
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Old 06-14-2015, 07:00 AM
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Did u chk if its closed all the way in?
I had a similar problem and had to come out from passenger door and push the door inside.
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Old 06-14-2015, 09:14 AM
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The driver door cylinder has a sensor that's connected to the CAS that controls the central locking system ,, it senses the key position in the cylinder .I think there is a way to undue a deadlocked door . When as soon as I get to my laptop later this morning I'll get some more information on this ..

Cool dudes suggestion is a good idea making sure the door is pushed in closed all the way . The info I posted states the doors being open with R off . As a condition for deadlock .
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Old 06-14-2015, 12:07 PM
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Here is some detailed information on the central locking system . Highlighted in red you can do a forced deadlock release... Try it out ,, hope it works ..

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Introduction
weltweitDatum/Date: 04/2003 Update: 08/2005
The Car Access System (CAS) monitors all the processes in the central locking system. The CAS control unit is the master control unit for the central locking.
Up to 09/2005, the central locking system on the front doors is actuated by the door modules (driver's door module and front passenger door module).

From 09/2005 The door modules are discontinued. The central locking system on the front doors is actuated by the body gateway module (KGM).

The following central locking drives are actuated by the body basic module (KBM).
- Rear doors (E60, E61 only)
- Rear lid- Fuel filler flap
- Rear window (E61 only)

The CAS control unit uses the requests from various operating points (e.g. lock cylinder, remote control) to decide what needs to be done:
- Locking/deadlocking the central locking system
- Unlocking the central locking system

Brief description of components

The following components supply an input signal for the central locking system:

- Driver's door lock cylinder
The driver's door lock cylinder allows manual locking/deadlocking and unlocking of the vehicle. If the vehicle's electrical system fails, the driver's door can be unlocked manually using the ignition key.

- Interior boot lid push button in the driver's footwell
The interior boot lid pushbutton allows the boot lid to be opened while the vehicle is stationary (terminal R OFF).

- Central locking button
The central locking button allows the vehicle to be locked/unlocked from the passenger compartment. The fuel filler flap is not locked.

- Remote control
The remote control allows the vehicle to be locked/deadlocked via radio (aerial interface). The radio signals from the remote control are received by the FBD receiver (receiver for remote control) and transferred to the CAS control unit.

- Lock cylinder on the boot lid
The boot lid lock cylinder allows the boot lid to be opened manually (E60, E63, E64 only).
On the E60 the hotel position is also applied via the lock cylinder.
On the E63/E64 the hotel position is applied in the rear stowage compartment in the centre console (hotel position switch). This means that, in addition to the boot lid, the front stowage compartment can also be uncoupled from the central locking system.

- External boot lid push button
The external boot lid push button allows the boot lid to be opened while the vehicle is unlocked and stationary (hotel position not applied).
Via the BMW badge on the E63/E64.

- Rear window switch (E61 only)
The rear window switch allows the rear window to be opened while the vehicle is unlocked and stationary (hotel position not applied). The rear window switch is integrated in the rear window wiper.

- Door contacts
The signals from the door contacts are analysed by different systems. For example, the anti-theft alarm DWA requires the signals to monitor the doors. The following control units are involved in the central locking system:

- CAS : Car Access System All the rules for controlling the central locking are integrated in the Car Access System. The commands are transferred by the CAS control unit via the K-CAN.

- SGM: Safety and gateway module
>up to 09/2005
The safety and gateway module (SGM) forms the bus interface between K-CAN and byteflight.

- TMFA and TMBF: Driver's door module and front passenger door module
>up to 09/2005 The door modules are a component of the passive safety system ASE (= Advanced Safety Electronics). The door modules control the central locking system for the front doors.

- KGM: Body gateway module

>from 09/2005
The door modules and the byteflight are discontinued.
The body gateway module (KGM) actuates the central locking in the front doors. Moreover, the KGM is the central gateway to the bus system.

-Body basic module

The body basic module (KBM) controls the central locking system on the rear doors (not on the E63, E64). It also controls the central locking drives on the fuel filler flap, the boot lid and the rear window (E61).

- Motors in the door locks

There are 2 motors in each door lock. The locking mechanism can be brought into the following position by the motors:

Lock: Door can still be opened from the inside Deadlock: Door cannot be opened from the inside or from the outside

Unlock: Door can be opened from the inside and outside

- Motor for the fuel filler flap
The motor locks/unlocks the fuel filler flap.

- Motor for the boot lid lock
The motor locks/unlocks the boot lid.
It is not possible to operate the central locking system via the boot lid lock.
The boot lid can only be unlocked manually via the boot lid lock.
On the E61 the boot lid lock is supported by an automatic soft-close mechanism.

- Motor for the rear window
(E61 only) The motor locks/unlocks the rear window.
At the same time, the body basic module controls the locking/unlocking of the luggage compartment cover blind
(1 motor each on the left and right D-pillar).

System functions
The central locking system incorporates the following functions:

- Locking
- Deadlocking
- Unlocking
- Hotel position
- Crash unlocking
- Forced deadlock release
- Lock-out protection
- Repeat lock
- Automatic relocking
- Voltage monitoring

Locking A locked door cannot be opened from the outside. However, the door can still be opened from the inside. To do this, the door handle must be pulled twice.
Locking is performed in the following ways:
Operation of the central locking button (condition: front doors must be closed) Operation via the driver's door lock cylinder or the remote control, where the conditions for deadlocking are not fulfilled (see "Deadlocking").

Deadlocking
A deadlocked door cannot be opened from the inside or outside.
A door is deadlocked if the vehicle is locked via the driver's door lock cylinder or the remote control.

Conditions:
Terminal R OFF Driver's door or front
-passenger door was opened
Driver's door closed
When the vehicle is deadlocked, the anti-theft alarm DWA is also primed.

Unlocking
An unlocked door can be opened from the inside and the outside.
When the vehicle is unlocked, the anti-theft alarm DWA is also deactivated.

Hotel position The hotel position is applied via the lock cylinder in the boot lid (E60). On the E63/E64 the hotel position switch is in the rear stowage compartment of the centre console. When the hotel position is applied, the boot lid also stays locked after the vehicle is unlocked. On the E63/E64 the front stowage compartment of the centre console also stays locked. The boot lid pushbutton in the interior footwell and the outside boot lid pushbutton are deactivated. Application of the hotel position is detected from the position of the boot lid lock cylinder or by the hotel position switch.

Crash unlocking
A crash is detected by the passive safety system ASE (= Advanced Safety Electronics).
The crash signal is reported by the safety and gateway module (SGM) to the CAS control unit. The message is sent on the K-CAN. The CAS control unit unlocks the vehicle. All operating points are disabled when there is a crash signal. This prevents unintentional actions of the central locking system from occurring due to short circuits caused by the accident.
The central locking system can only be reactivated after a crash once terminal R has been switched off for at least 3 seconds.

Forced unlocking
If the CAS detects that a key is engaged in the ignition starter switch, the central locking system is released. The central locking system assumes the "Lock" position. The anti-theft alarm system is also deactivated during forced release.

Lock-out protection
To protect the driver against unintentionally locking himself out, all operating points are locked when the driver's door is open. This makes any additional mechanical lock-out protection in the door locks unnecessary.

Anti-repeat circuit
To protect the central locking drives (doors, boot lid, fuel filler flap and rear window) against overloading, the CAS monitors repeated operation. If there are more than 15 attempts at activation within one minute, the drives are not unlocked for a certain time.

Automatic relocking (with activated Car Memory) Automatic relocking (deadlocking) takes place: If the central locking system has been unlocked via the remote control and if neither a door nor the boot lid has been opened within two minutes.

Voltage monitoring
The function range for the central locking system is specified as being from 7 to 16 volts. Outside this range, the drives will not be actuated. If the power supply is interrupted, the status of the central locking system will not change (anti-theft protection).
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:59 PM
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I tried pushing the door in and still nothing, I bought a new actuator and still the same problem, this is driving me crazy, It seems that it works fine with the panel off, however when the door panel is put back on the problems starts. I wonder if the weight of the panel is affecting the door, In the origin I had a problem with the outside door handle and to remove it I also removed the door lock and the actuator,
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Old 06-17-2015, 02:46 PM
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Im also wondering if the sensor in the door cylinder may be bad, this started with a broken exterior door handle, where the handle carrier did not mate well to the exterior handle side, I originally was able to use the interior handle no problem, I had disassembled the exterior handle and applied a very small amount of JB weld to the plastic piece to ensure it mated well with the door carrier part and put it back together, In order to remove the door carrier to get the entire handle off I had to move the door actuator, and just assumed it went bad. This is driving me crazy and I really don't want to take the car to the Stealer.
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Old 06-17-2015, 06:32 PM
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Ahhh ,, the rest of the story , lol .. Its possible the the cylinder sensor was damaged and not working properly.. check the wiring , and the plug to the sensor.
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Old 06-17-2015, 06:53 PM
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this vehicle does not have comfort access and there is no electrical connection on the key cylinder basically it just has a locking pin that attached it to the door holder and the rear of it goes into the door actuator.
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Old 06-18-2015, 09:10 AM
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I was very careful in removing the door panel upper part and can see the interior door handle Bowden cable connected, I put a long screwdriver down into the panel have pressed the release last all the way several times and still can't unlock the door, I am honestly at my wits end with this
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:12 AM
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I was very careful in removing the door panel upper part and can see the interior door handle Bowden cable connected, I put a long screwdriver down into the panel have pressed the release last all the way several times and still can't unlock the door, I am honestly at my wits end with this
Doesn't the cylinder have a pin that activates the actuator ? Have you looked at the pin for damage ?

It appears that all the mechanical parts are checking out good .. You might want to think about the KGM module it controls the front doors locking mechanizums signal for unlocking lock cylinder (Hall sensor) in driver's door .. Also the actuation of central locking drive for unlocking the driver's door

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The body gateway module (KGM) is the central gateway for the bus system.

The body gateway module controls the following functions:
- Central locking, front
- Power windows, front- Exterior mirrors
- Access lights, front- Micro-power module
- Servotronic
Depending on your build date ,,,, since yoiu only have the driver door problem ,,, I think you have the TMFA and TMBF modules in the doors ..

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- TMFA and TMBF: Driver's door module and front passenger door module
>up to 09/2005 The door modules are a component of the passive safety system ASE (= Advanced Safety Electronics). The door modules control the central locking system for the front doors.

- KGM: Body gateway module

>from 09/2005
The door modules and the byteflight are discontinued.
The body gateway module (KGM) actuates the central locking in the front doors. Moreover, the KGM is the central gateway to the bus system.
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I was very careful in removing the door panel upper part and can see the interior door handle Bowden cable connected, I put a long screwdriver down into the panel have pressed the release last all the way several times and still can't unlock the door, I am honestly at my wits end with this
Did you ever figure out what the problem was? I haven't reached the point of the door not opening but once I took the panel off like you did everything worked and then when I put it back on everything didn't. 2006 530xi wagon. door open warning, interior lights won't shut off, drivers door doesn't respond to anything but the manual key to lock it however it will unlock with the key fob as the rest of the doors do. But won't lock unless locked with the key. 3 remaining doors require pushing down the lock lever indicator on each door. It's driving me insane!
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