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Old 08-22-2019, 09:08 PM
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Another Door Open Thread

I've been searching here and everywhere for any similar issues that I am experiencing but cannot seem to find anything quite like what I've got going on. I'm going to bullet my issues instead of drag it out in sentences. Hopefully that's more helpful.

* A week ago discovered the "DOOR OPEN" warning on my way to get son from school.

* Open shut all doors, still persisted. Really didn't feel like dealing with it so forgot about it for the day.

* Next day investigated. Noticed 4 gouge marks (like a flat head screwdriver) in the DSD interior paneling. Upon further inspection noticed scratches all around DD as well as finger and hand prints in places I don't put my hands on DD as well as all the other doors.

* Came to the conclusion someone tried to break into my car.

* I've just been driving around with this error but it's not just the DOOR OPEN problem it seems to effect the INTERIOR DOME LIGHT and THE LOCKS.

*UNLOCKING can be done with the key fob. LOCKING cannot.

*To LOCK the car all 3 passenger doors need to be locked by depressing the lock indicator thingy that goes up and down in the door. The drivers door can only be locked manually with the key from the outside. Pushing down the lock indicator thingy is not possible. Won't stay down.

* NOW FOR THE WEIRD PART. Took the drivers door panel off last night. Disconnected all the wires to completely remove the panel. Nothing "LOOKED" damaged that I could tell.

Decided to test out the key fob before putting the panel back on and oddly enough everything worked like normal. The only thing I did not actually test was the DOOR OPEN error because that is usually triggered once driving (kinda like my passenger seat malfunction error). NOT sitting in my garage. I've tried.

* Put the panel back on to the door. Connected everything back into it's proper connections and tried the key fob again. THE PROBLEMS RETURNED.

I'm at a loss on this one. IDK if I need to order a new actuator, if this is wiring or if I'm just bad luck. This is problem #11. This month makes it one year of ownership of a vehicle that cannot seem to behave and stay out of trouble. It's as if it's been hanging out with the wrong crowd just in spite of me and I'm not a mean owner/driver.

HELP PLEASE!
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:00 AM
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Forgot to mention, 2006 530xi wagon.
After searching a bit more last night I came across another post that had some similar symptoms and that poster was told those were the signs of a failing actuator. But that doesn't explain why when the panel is removed from my driver door how everything works normally.
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Old 09-12-2019, 01:23 AM
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Anybody? Anything?
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Old 09-12-2019, 05:32 PM
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If you know which door is giving you problems, there must be some sort of switch that toggles when the door is open / shut. Check it for voltage. Likely 0 V and Vbatt in opposing conditions.
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:21 PM
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Nothing to add to help with your car trouble, but I wish I had problems with my 535xi and lived on Maui...

Been there 12 times in the last 9 years, can't stay away.

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Old 09-13-2019, 06:49 PM
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If you know which door is giving you problems, there must be some sort of switch that toggles when the door is open / shut. Check it for voltage. Likely 0 V and Vbatt in opposing conditions.
Could you maybe ELI5 what you just said there? I have a multi meter but kinda only used it to check household battery life. Lol
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:58 PM
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Nothing to add to help with your car trouble, but I wish I had problems with my 535xi and lived on Maui...

Been there 12 times in the last 9 years, can't stay away.
You are more than welcome to come on over! Stay at my house, drive my car wherever you wanna go, (although we both know there isn't a whole lot of places to go here) for as long as you like. The only condition is you'd be sharing the house with my husband and 3 grownup (kinda sorta) sons. They eat a lot! I would of course be swapping places with you for the time being and I am not taking them with me. If you can handle that I will sign on the dotted line yesterday!
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Old 09-13-2019, 07:34 PM
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I guess what I am envisioning in my head is sort of a plunger switch. Plunger open when door open, closed when door closed. Apparently, that is old school stuff, because I did not see one on my car in the door cavity. Which makes me believe that there is a similar type device inside the door panel that makes use of the swing arm.

It could be as simple as this: Supplied with 5 or 12V going in, return going out. If you were to measure across it, it would be open circuit in one state and closed in the other. So, if you measure the return referenced to ground, you would either measure the supply voltage or an open circuit. It should toggle dependent on the state of the door.

May not be a plunger. But, there has to be a electromechanical device in there wherein the computer can tell the state of the door.

Perhaps it is a fused circuit. I would check there first.
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Old 09-13-2019, 07:38 PM
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Not sure what your insurance coverage is but this could potentially be a claim.


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Old 09-13-2019, 07:40 PM
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You are more than welcome to come on over! Stay at my house, drive my car wherever you wanna go, (although we both know there isn't a whole lot of places to go here) for as long as you like. The only condition is you'd be sharing the house with my husband and 3 grownup (kinda sorta) sons. They eat a lot! I would of course be swapping places with you for the time being and I am not taking them with me. If you can handle that I will sign on the dotted line yesterday!
Ha! An offer I can't refuse. Well yes, I can. Maybe it would be fair if the swap were in January when it's -20C and you could take care of my Rotties and man-child, and I could go whale watching. No need to drive far (but I've always wanted to do the south route to Hana...).

Good luck with your problem.
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Old 09-14-2019, 02:55 PM
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Ha! An offer I can't refuse. Well yes, I can. Maybe it would be fair if the swap were in January when it's -20C and you could take care of my Rotties and man-child, and I could go whale watching. No need to drive far (but I've always wanted to do the south route to Hana...).

Good luck with your problem.
Aside from the 4 kinda sorta men children you'd be responsible for 4 cats! 2 of which I love more than my children and the other 2 are more like step children. And they eat a ton as well. I have no problem with rotties. Bring um on! -20 I've done before, not fun, but as long as you have heating and 4 walls with a roof to keep it all around me I could care less what the temp outside was. I'm kinda thinking all the men-children need to find a man cave somewhere far away from my home and yours. That way cats and dogs are all we'll have to take care of.

As far as my car issues, (soon to be yours ) no solution yet. it is kind of annoying but I know the second I resolve this problem another will pop up right afterwards. So for now until I decided to bite the bullet and buy a new actuator if that is in fact the issue, manually locking the doors is what I'm (soon to be you too ) stuck with. Oh, the back side to Hana is paved all the way around now so have at it! They've had the road closed several times this year from bridges getting washed out during some bad storms but I think they're all open now. I think?
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:54 PM
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Not sure what your insurance coverage is but this could potentially be a claim.


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This did cross my mind. I have full coverage insurance too, not sure what my deductible is (gotta look it up) but it seemed like such a hassle at the time. Now, looking back I probably should have made a police report and filed a claim. I never thought this would be so challenging to trouble shoot. I thought wrong!
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:58 PM
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Yeah, that stuff is way over my head. Sounds like something my husband should do instead. Thank you for the idea on where to start though. It's somewhere!
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