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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 09-23-2013, 02:49 PM
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I would reply 'For the same reason I am not driving a Dodge Caravan'



But there is no performance gain with an AGM battery.

An AGM transports better. But I am not going to transport it. An AGM can leave the manufacturer fully charged, thereby allowing a battery built on one continent to be easily shipped to another one. But I am not shipping it. An AGM should hold its charge longer when unused. But I use my car and put it on a tender when I travel.

So what am I going to gain, other than to tell people I have an AGM?
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:32 AM
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E60 Battery Replacement
I have done a ton of researching for you and moderators please make this a sticky for battery replacement in the E60

This IS kind of a pain but if you want to save money and get it done correctly THIS is the way to do it.

Duralast Gold/Battery 95R-DLG
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...ntifier=820339
Here's the battery, AutoZone sells it for $179.99. IGNORE the AutoZone battery finder thing, it's COMPLETELY WRONG and spits out the wrong battery.

Or:
AutoCraft Gold Battery, Group Size 95R, 950 CCA
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...gold_2130016-p
Here's the battery, Advance Auto sells it for $182.99. IGNORE the Advance auto battery finder thing, it's COMPLETELY WRONG and spits out the wrong battery.

Or:
http://www.batteriesplus.com/product...4L-850CCA.aspx
SLI95RH9

Old Battery: If this is your old battery
01 Battery from Exide (Warranty Only) 110AH 850A 1 61216901815 ENDED
01 Battery from Exide (Warranty Only) 110AH 850A 1 61217591085 ENDED

OEM Battery Specs:
Cold Cranking Amps (CCA): 850
Reserve Capacity (Min): 110
Battery Length: 394 mm - 15 9/16 in
Battery Width: 175 mm - 6 15/16 in
Battery Height: 190 mm - 7 1/2 in
Post Location: Top Post
Right Or Left Hand Positive: Right
Core Charge Applicable: Yes

New Battery (this is for the one I got from Advance Auto)
AutoCraft Gold Battery, Group Size 95R, 950 CCA
Amp Hours: 110 hr
Battery Type: Lead Acid
BCI Group Size: 95
Cold Cranking Amps: 950 amps
Deep Cycle/Starting: Starting
Height: 7 1/2 in
Length: 15 9/16 in
Maintenance Free: Yes
Terminal Type: Top Terminal
Voltage: 12 v
Weight: 64 lbs
Width: 6 15/16 in

Autocraft Gold CCA 950 AH 110 RC 150
BMW OEM CCC 850 AH 110 RC 110

Other batteries that I think will work but not positive:
http://www.pepboys.com/product/detai...ntity=148-690B Bosch from Bosch Premium Performance Battery Group Size 48 Pepboys $113.99
Part # 48-690B SKU: 9073748

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070921x00003c
DieHard Gold Automotive Battery - Group Size 48 $149.99

DO NOT GET THE H8 BATTERY FROM WAL-MART ALTHOUGH THE CCA IS BETTER THAN OEM AT 900CCA THE AH ON THIS BATTERY IS ONLY 80 WHICH IS NOT ENOUGH FOR OUR CARS!!!!

Out of all these choices I ended up getting the Advance Auto Battery and with using coupon code HUGE50 or TPT 30 I ended up getting $50 off of the battery. For these coupon codes to work you MUST purchase the battery online and do in store pickup!!!

If you get the Autozone or Advance Auto battery (Which I would recommend doing) they will not be able to touch your car: (I did this in the parking lot of advance auto)
Under the hood use a 12 volt source so that you car never loses power!

Battery removal and installation:
1. Remove the trunk carpet/plastic floor and lift the tray containing the spare.
2. Locate the battery by pulling the rear right corner panel inside of your trunk. There should be 1-2 plastic screws that hold the panel down.
3. Use i believe a 11-13mm socket wrench to unbolt the retainer bar (black) that holds down the battery.
4. Use a 10mm socket wrench to loosen the positive and negative terminal and pull them off the battery. Note that the positive plug has two connections. Only need to loosen the one that is connected to the battery (which is closest to the North edge)
5. Use a Phillips screw driver to loosen the long gray screw on the South side of the battery. This is clipping down the battery on the bottom.
6. Once loose enough, pull the battery straight out.
7. Replace battery and then make sure the metal clip is sitting on top of the edge of the battery case (at the bottom of the battery)
8. Tight screw so battery is held down from the bottom.
9. Attach plugs to Positive and Negative terminals and tighten the nuts.
10. Tighten the retaining bar back on and put the corner panel back.
11. Start your car and let it run for a couple of minutes and drive around the block.
13. If your car has the 4x4 warning come up all you have to do it sweep your steering wheel all the way to the left and than all the way to the right and this warning will go away.
14. If you didn't use the 12 volt source and lost power to the car, you must reset the date and time and also don't forget to reset the TPMS through the I-Drive.

After this is all completed you car should now be running fine and throwing no codes if done correctly: Call your nearest dealer or Indy shop and ask how much for "battery registration" You don't HAVE to do this but I would HIGHLY recommend it!!!
My one local dealer wanted $103.99 to register the new battery but another dealership through some talking to them opted to do it for FREE!!!

So my all in costs was $156 after the discount coupon code for advance auto and PA State tax of 6%

My dealer wanted $500 for battery replacement, installation and registering. This process I admit was a pain but with this information I already saved the leg work for you. I saved myself $344 doing the process this way!!!
Good stuff...I assume that when you say "Under the hood use a 12 volt source so that you car never loses power!" that jumping the vehicle to another car battery using jumper cables is what you are referring to...if not, please explain?

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Old 10-23-2013, 08:52 AM
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For those undecided about FLA vs. AGM

If your E60 currently has the white FLA battery, just replace it with the same one! (Model number listed at the beginning of this thread)

Advance Auto has the FLA battery out the door for about $140 using one of their online coupon codes. I found an indie who registered my battery (and didn't have to reprogram the whole car) for $40. My total = $179 and change.
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If you like you can also replace the battery with and AGM battery (especially if you already have an AGM battery) The quickest way to tell if your current battery is black it is an AGM battery if it is white it is a FLA battery.

Batteries are rated by whether they are AGM (electrolyte is suspended in Absorbed Glass Mats) or standard Flooded Lead-Acid (FLA, but you wonít see that term on the label), ranking Amps (CA, at 32 degrees F), Cold Cranking Amps (CCA, at 0 degrees F), Reserve Capacity (RC), and Amp Hours (Ah). Most batteries donít show Ah, but the OEM does.

The BMW OEM AGM is no longer made. It was a Banner (Austria), 900 CCA, 900 CA, 160 RC and 90 Ah, AGM type,.

After research, you can go to Autozone and for $169.99 buy a Duralast H8-AGM, which is an exact size AGM replacement with 850 CCA and 975 CA, RA 170.

Popping it the car was is no problem,(use the same steps as previously listed) Itís a little heavy and awkward to move in and out, but it fits exactly. It also hooks perfectly to the OEM vent hose, with a hole on the left, but since there is also a hole on the right on the Duralast you can cover that side with tape.

If you choose to go to an AGM style battery and your car previously used and FLA battery you MUST!!! I repeat YOU MUST get the battery registered!!! Preferably on the day you change out to the AGM battery already have an appointment set up at a dealer or Indy that they could register your battery for you.
I purchased the Duralast H8-AGM about 2 weeks ago to replace my existing battery. took my 05 545i to the Dealer last week to program (couldn't get in right away) as well as try to find parasitic drain. Dealer called today to tell me the Duralast H8-AGM was not a correct replacement and that it is now ruined. They also couldn't find the parasitic drain either (6 amps!!!).
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Can the moderators please sticky this. Def some good info in this one.
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:21 AM
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hello all...great info on this thread. I want to let all know that in my BMW 545, I have previously installed an Exide group 49 battery 3.5 years ago. the battery was installed without registration (850cca 1000ca 160rc) and has been great ever since. The car barely gets driven and only up until recently, has the morning charge started to show 11.9-12 in the secret menu. I figured I already managed to squeeze enough life out of this battery and purchased a new Exide Nascar Extreme Group 49 (900cca 1000 ca 185 rc) and installed it last night. The car started up very quickly and no error codes! and so apparently besides the size, group 49 works with our cars. Btw the lower holding bracket adjusts perfectly for the smaller battery!
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hello all...great info on this thread. I want to let all know that in my BMW 545, I have previously installed an Exide group 49 battery 3.5 years ago. the battery was installed without registration (850cca 1000ca 160rc) and has been great ever since. The car barely gets driven and only up until recently, has the morning charge started to show 11.9-12 in the secret menu. I figured I already managed to squeeze enough life out of this battery and purchased a new Exide Nascar Extreme Group 49 (900cca 1000 ca 185 rc) and installed it last night. The car started up very quickly and no error codes! and so apparently besides the size, group 49 works with our cars. Btw the lower holding bracket adjusts perfectly for the smaller battery!
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:52 AM
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Duralast H8-AGM

I installed the Duralast H8-AGM about a year ago, replacing the original lead-acid battery on my 2008 535xi. I did reprogram the car for the new battery type, and registered as a new battery. It was a perfect fit, and has been working great.
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Walmart Everstart Maxx H8 - aH found! Plus coding questions

I recently got a 2008 535xi. The clock kept resetting, so I picked up an Everstart Maxx H8 900 CCA battery from Walmart, (made by Johnson Controls), installed it, and then realized that it had to be coded.

While learning about coding, I realized that there is no good information about the aH for this battery. There is some speculation, and it has resulted in this battery being not-recommeded by various BMW forums. I called both Walmart help line, and JC. Calling Walmart results in them saying that they don't give out the information about aH. Calling Johnson Controls results in them saying that Walmart owns the information for that model and they can't give it out. The internet forums suggest that its 80ah, which I believe is wrong.

Assumiing that Johnson controls does not make a separate battery for Walmart, but just rebrands their model, I found this link that shows the specs for Johnson Control AGM batteries:

http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/conte...eet_101212.pdf

According to the flyer, the JC group 49/H8/LN5 battery has 900 CCA, 160min RC, 95ah. The Walmart H8 battery has the same 900 CCA, suggesting to me that they are likely the same battery.

I still have to get this coded. I have INPA and NCS Expert running, but all the instructions I've found so far don't give blow-by-blow guidance for a first timer.

Update: I think I found the procedure to replace with an aftermarket battery:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...0&d=1329707988

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Battery took a poop last month in our '07 550i. Indie shop had interstate battery same size as the OE that they recommend in the BMWs (in fact both shops I called sold interstate).

Most expensive battery install I have ever encountered. After $300 for the battery, install, and programming, the car is starting up on even the coldest of mornings. Expensive, but I guess that is the price you pay.

Car only has 57k miles and its an 07, which seems early, but maybe not.
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Battery took a poop last month in our '07 550i. Indie shop had interstate battery same size as the OE that they recommend in the BMWs (in fact both shops I called sold interstate).

Most expensive battery install I have ever encountered. After $300 for the battery, install, and programming, the car is starting up on even the coldest of mornings. Expensive, but I guess that is the price you pay.

Car only has 57k miles and its an 07, which seems early, but maybe not.
Not really early. I have an '08 and am about to replace the original battery.
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Samir, the Walmart Everstart Maxx H8 are not AGM batteries ... None of the Everstart branded for Walmart are AGM. The JC spec sheet would not apply here ... But JC does supply AGM batteries to Sams(Energizer), Autozone, O'Reilly, Sears, .....

Check out this JC site:
http://www.autobatteries.com
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E60 Battery Replacement
I have done a ton of researching for you and moderators please make this a sticky for battery replacement in the E60

This IS kind of a pain but if you want to save money and get it done correctly THIS is the way to do it.

Duralast Gold/Battery 95R-DLG
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...ntifier=820339
Here's the battery, AutoZone sells it for $179.99. IGNORE the AutoZone battery finder thing, it's COMPLETELY WRONG and spits out the wrong battery.

Or:
AutoCraft Gold Battery, Group Size 95R, 950 CCA
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...gold_2130016-p
Here's the battery, Advance Auto sells it for $182.99. IGNORE the Advance auto battery finder thing, it's COMPLETELY WRONG and spits out the wrong battery.

Or:
http://www.batteriesplus.com/product...4L-850CCA.aspx
SLI95RH9

Old Battery: If this is your old battery
01 Battery from Exide (Warranty Only) 110AH 850A 1 61216901815 ENDED
01 Battery from Exide (Warranty Only) 110AH 850A 1 61217591085 ENDED

OEM Battery Specs:
Cold Cranking Amps (CCA): 850
Reserve Capacity (Min): 110
Battery Length: 394 mm - 15 9/16 in
Battery Width: 175 mm - 6 15/16 in
Battery Height: 190 mm - 7 1/2 in
Post Location: Top Post
Right Or Left Hand Positive: Right
Core Charge Applicable: Yes

New Battery (this is for the one I got from Advance Auto)
AutoCraft Gold Battery, Group Size 95R, 950 CCA
Amp Hours: 110 hr
Battery Type: Lead Acid
BCI Group Size: 95
Cold Cranking Amps: 950 amps
Deep Cycle/Starting: Starting
Height: 7 1/2 in
Length: 15 9/16 in
Maintenance Free: Yes
Terminal Type: Top Terminal
Voltage: 12 v
Weight: 64 lbs
Width: 6 15/16 in

Autocraft Gold CCA 950 AH 110 RC 150
BMW OEM CCC 850 AH 110 RC 110


I'm curious why you do not recommend using the auto battery finder.
Autozone recommends this battery which has better specs, lighter and costs less. Is there something i am missing?
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...uestid=3359603

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Damn! I thought I had figured out this Walmart battery! Thanks guys. I am going to return it.

What is the opinion on H8-AGM 95ah batteries vs the group 95 110ah FLA battery? I was thinking of getting the AGM as my wife does a lot of driving around town (her car), and my understanding (which could be wrong) is that the AGM is supposed to last longer under such scenarios. Advanced Auto also has an H8-AGM for the same price as the 95.

An additional benefit of the H8 is that I already recoded the 2008 535xi for 90ah AGM, and at this point I just have to drop it in.

Update: I returned the Walmart battery, and picked up the Advanced Auto H8-AGM. With the amount of gadgets this car has, and the short trips, I think the AGM makes sense, if it lives up to its billing.

Thanks again for this thread.

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If you like you can also replace the battery with and AGM battery (especially if you already have an AGM battery) The quickest way to tell if your current battery is black it is an AGM battery if it is white it is a FLA battery.

Batteries are rated by whether they are AGM (electrolyte is suspended in Absorbed Glass Mats) or standard Flooded Lead-Acid (FLA, but you wonít see that term on the label), ranking Amps (CA, at 32 degrees F), Cold Cranking Amps (CCA, at 0 degrees F), Reserve Capacity (RC), and Amp Hours (Ah). Most batteries donít show Ah, but the OEM does.

The BMW OEM AGM is no longer made. It was a Banner (Austria), 900 CCA, 900 CA, 160 RC and 90 Ah, AGM type,.

After research, you can go to Autozone and for $169.99 buy a Duralast H8-AGM, which is an exact size AGM replacement with 850 CCA and 975 CA, RA 170.

Popping it the car was is no problem,(use the same steps as previously listed) Itís a little heavy and awkward to move in and out, but it fits exactly. It also hooks perfectly to the OEM vent hose, with a hole on the left, but since there is also a hole on the right on the Duralast you can cover that side with tape.

If you choose to go to an AGM style battery and your car previously used and FLA battery you MUST!!! I repeat YOU MUST get the battery registered!!! Preferably on the day you change out to the AGM battery already have an appointment set up at a dealer or Indy that they could register your battery for you.

Thank you for posting this info. This helped me alot.
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SUCCESS ! FLA (white top) battery to AGM (black top) battery.

Bought the Duralast H8-AGM from Autozone in Santa Clara. $169.00 plus tax. Took the battery to Motorspeed West in Santa Clara as well. They installed and registered the battery for $40. Spent about $210 total. Active steering light came on after the new battery, but mehcanic said to drive the car for a few minutes and it will go away (which it did).

BAY AREA HEADS: Go see Bill at Motorspeed West in Santa Clara, knows his **** about cars. Good Yelp reviews. All BMW's in the parking lot and inside the shop. Great customer service. Affordable prices.

Thanks alot for the refferal. I was in the area and went to AutoZone picked up the battery (170) then drove down to Moterspeed. I spoke to Jerry and he was able to install the H8-AGM and register it for $74.

MV BMW wanted $650
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Just used the Autocraft battery from Advanced. Been working great, thanks for the info OP!!
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Dealer quoted around $500+, says FLA is recommended!

I have FLA type white battery, so if I replace it with exactly the same one, do the car need registration?
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Dealer quoted around $500+, says FLA is recommended!

I have FLA type white battery, so if I replace it with exactly the same one, do the car need registration?
"Technically" the answer is yes, but I'd skip and not think twice about it if I was replacing with the exact same type of battery and didn't have a way of registering it myself
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Prior to the battery replacement I had my vehicle coded for the power windows to roll up and side mirrors to fold when a press of my remote.

After the new battery install and register, these functions are now gone.

Do you know if I need to recode the vehicle again? I went back to the shop which installed and registered the battery and they have no answer for me yet.
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Prior to the battery replacement I had my vehicle coded for the power windows to roll up and side mirrors to fold when a press of my remote.

After the new battery install and register, these functions are now gone.

Do you know if I need to recode the vehicle again? I went back to the shop which installed and registered the battery and they have no answer for me yet.
All of the coding I made to my car remained after I replaced and registered the battery. It sounds like they reset the modules back to their default VIN-based settings for some reason.
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Thanks to the OP, the Duralast 95R-DLG is the exact fit for even a 2009 535i. Thank you! Replaced it in no time and no error messages. Only had to adjust the time. I do not see a reason to register the battery. and it is made in Germany! Hmmm!
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I followed this thread to the T and had no problem whatsoever when I installed the battery. I went with the Autocraft Gold Battery 95R 950 CCA from Advance and the $50 coupon still worked online and picked up in store. It is the exact fit and size as the original and the vent hole lined up properly as well as the secure brackets so no mods were needed. There's even a nice video in the thread. I would rate this repair as "Easy" because I am not technically inclined but I replaced the battery myself. I still need to go to the dealer for battery programming but that only costs $89.99. In total I spent $240 with tax less the $18 core charge I got back. The dealer wanted $510 to replace the battery. I have an '08 535i with 58k miles. Thanks for the help.


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