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The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 07-19-2019, 08:09 PM
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My 2014 535d hasnít lit up the DEF light since I got it over 10k miles ago. Does the dealer typically top this off during oil changes? If not how long does a full tank of DEF typically last?


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Old 07-19-2019, 11:12 PM
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My 2014 535d hasnít lit up the DEF light since I got it over 10k miles ago. Does the dealer typically top this off during oil changes? If not how long does a full tank of DEF typically last?


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Mine is near empty after about 10,000 KM, there is a Level Indicator on my iDrive (Euro Model) right next to Oil Level. Holds about 10 usable Liters in Europe. If DEF is empty Car wonít start, at least on EU Cars.

I wait until first reserve warnings then 5 liters at a time with known fresh DEF as it has a shelf life and is susceptible to heat and sunlight affecting shelf life.
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Old 07-20-2019, 03:53 AM
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It's been my experience that a full DEF tank lasts just over 10K miles and is filled (for free) with oil changes by dealer under the car's initial warranty plan. However, in two instances, the DEF was not refilled in my cars, probably because the mechanics doing the oil changes just forgot. I suspect that they do so many oil changes for gas engines that they don't think about DEF. In any case, DEF is very cheap and can be done by the owner.
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Old 07-20-2019, 04:14 AM
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The general rule is DEF is consumed at 2% - 6% of diesel fuel consumption rate.

I decline DEF service by book paid mechanics for fear of them using unauthorized tank-pump-nozzle arrangements that cause water-hammer pressure impulse as the vehicle's tank goes full. I fill by hand gently, using a leakproof funnel as discussed on BF Diesel Fan subforum.

DEF is very stable and does not have a noted shelf life in my experience.
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Old 07-20-2019, 12:21 PM
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3% of fuel consumption is the number I've heard a lot.

The expiration date on a container of DEF reminds me of the expiration date on bottled water. The water itself doesn't have an expiration date but it leeches chemicals from the container over time which gives the water a bad taste. So even though the water won't expire, I wouldn't want to use the bottled water after the expiration date.

Even with my driving around 1k miles per week, I don't keep any spare DEF at home. The 999 miles to no-start countdown gives plenty of time to buy some DEF at my local Walmart* store. I usually do a DEF fill when the the countdown gets to around 500 miles. I DIY all DEF fills like Doug does.

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Old 07-20-2019, 10:27 PM
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I just look at the Manufacturers date and avoid places where they place the Jugs outside in the Sun. Even in Germany it happens.

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The US EPA requires that the DEF tank capacity is sufficient to only require DEF fill-ups at the scheduled oil change intervals.
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Old 07-21-2019, 07:41 AM
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Ah, thatís interesting, here wonít make it that long due up to 20,000 Mile intervals so I guess their method here is to not allow the Car to start when empty. Gives plenty of warnings well before though.
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You may note that no effective citation to the law was given.
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You may note that no effective citation to the law was given.
Yep, from memory.
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