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Old 02-22-2019, 08:08 AM
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2010 X5 E70 without runflats or a spare. I want to buy a spare wheel and tire, the jacking tools, and the foam insert but haven't liked the prices I have seen. So now I am checking Craigslist and junkyards for X5s being parted out and my question is: Should I only be looking at 2007-2013's to make sure the fit is right or are there older years that would fit? Thanks for any guidance!
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:30 AM
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I have a jury rigged spare for my F10. It's an X70 mini-spare rim with a centering ring (because the F10's hub is a smaller diameter than the X70''s). Here's the link where an F10 guy assembled a spare, with part numbers. You'd probably want a larger diameter spare tire.

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=561806

A spare tire was an option, but an invisible one. So, dealers' lot bunny X5's and X6's probably wouldn't have been ordered with a spare. It'd be more common with customer-ordered ones. The rim is only about $100 from on-line BMW parts retailers. The foam and jack would be more.

Here's what I paid in 2013:

24-Sep-12 Tire stem for spare (TireRack) $2.27
25-Nov-13 Mini-spare tire (plus total shipping) $131.44
25-Nov-13 TireRack tire bag $19.95
25-Nov-13 TireRack tire bag felts (2) $14.95
25-Nov-13 Centering rings (4) for spare rim $49.17
30-Nov-13 Mini-spare rim (plus 8% tax) $82.47
30-Nov-13 BMW jack kit $161.69

You can go on getbmwparts.com with the wheel part number and there's a cross reference page that shows what other models it fits on. But, back in the day only the X5 and X6 offered optional spares in the U.S. A lot of BMW's do now, but they're come with a cast aluminum rim.

If you do find a junkyard spare, it's a real good idea to replace the tire. I had an eight year old spare tire fail the first time I drove on it.

BMW used to sell a jack kit in a real nice nylon bag. But, they're stopped selling that in the U.S., maybe for product liability reasons since the cars' owner's manual did not contain tire changing instructions and safety warnings.
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2010 X5 E70 without runflats or a spare. I want to buy a spare wheel and tire, the jacking tools, and the foam insert.... my question is: Should I only be looking at 2007-2013's to make sure the fit is right or are there older years that would fit? Thanks for any guidance!
A question like this...will always make me turn to one of the online part databases to see exactly which other BMW models that BMW actually designed to use the exact same part without having to do any modifications at all.

So...this is what I find when I pull up the compact spare info for a an e70 X5 with the VIN L666318: (click link below to see all the BMW models that use the same compact spare tire as the aforementioned e70 X5)



And the following link for the car tool/lifting jack parts can reveal which BMW models you can find or will work for an e70 X5 (click on the blue "i" next to the 11 digit part nbr):

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Old 02-25-2019, 05:19 AM
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I have a jury rigged spare for my F10. It's an X70 mini-spare rim with a centering ring (because the F10's hub is a smaller diameter than the X70''s). Here's the link where an F10 guy assembled a spare, with part numbers. You'd probably want a larger diameter spare tire.

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=561806

A spare tire was an option, but an invisible one. So, dealers' lot bunny X5's and X6's probably wouldn't have been ordered with a spare. It'd be more common with customer-ordered ones. The rim is only about $100 from on-line BMW parts retailers. The foam and jack would be more.

Here's what I paid in 2013:

24-Sep-12Tire stem for spare (TireRack) $2.27
25-Nov-13Mini-spare tire (plus total shipping) $131.44
25-Nov-13TireRack tire bag $19.95
25-Nov-13TireRack tire bag felts (2) $14.95
25-Nov-13Centering rings (4) for spare rim $49.17
30-Nov-13Mini-spare rim (plus 8% tax) $82.47
30-Nov-13BMW jack kit $161.69

You can go on getbmwparts.com with the wheel part number and there's a cross reference page that shows what other models it fits on. But, back in the day only the X5 and X6 offered optional spares in the U.S. A lot of BMW's do now, but they're come with a cast aluminum rim.

If you do find a junkyard spare, it's a real good idea to replace the tire. I had an eight year old spare tire fail the first time I drove on it.

BMW used to sell a jack kit in a real nice nylon bag. But, they're stopped selling that in the U.S., maybe for product liability reasons since the cars' owner's manual did not contain tire changing instructions and safety warnings.


Just for fun, for those Toyota fan guys who like to bash European brands.
Price for my X5 35d:
1. Wheel: $118
2. Tire: $ 109 (though I got it in discount tires as I try to give this guy that runs store business since he always cuts me good deals). BMW wanted $125.

Toyota Sienna (AWD, also on RFT, no spare tire space):
1. Wheel: $134 (Toyota dealer, 17)
2. Tire (sit down everyone): $398!!!

Got it at discount tire where that manager dig out Kumho brand new from factory 165/90 R17 for $92.


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Sticker price of the "space saver spare" on my 2013 was $150...a no-brainer.
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:21 PM
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Sticker price of the "space saver spare" on my 2013 was $150...a no-brainer.
Funny story...on my 2010, when I ordered it, I saw "space saver spare- $150" and thought (I kid you not): "No way, I'll just stick with the full sized"...

thinking that was the default option.

When I ordered the '12, I didnt make that mistake again.

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For the G01 X3 30i, if you order the non-RFT's, the spare is free!
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Something I've found invaluable and much less of a hassle / disappointment than attempting to put on the deflated spare tire, are those "Slime" branded tire repair / plug kits you can find at grocery stores or auto-parts stores. Also need to keep one of those cheap 12v air compressors in the car as well. Also, only works if the leak point is in the tread, as these kits will not repair sidewall leaks / damage from hitting a large pot hole at highway speed.

Summer of 2017, had 5 flat tires from nails & screws in the course of 4 months; about once or twice a week, would see someone on the side of the road w/ a flat on that same stretch of highway where some jerk must have dropped their box of nails & screws out of their truck... On my 1st flat, my deflated spare tire did me no good as I somehow lost the special key to remove the security lug bolt & I never used the full size spare on my E46, so it was pretty much flat & unusable anyways... Walked a mile to a Walmart at the next exit & bought one of those Slime repair kits & a $50 air compressor; was on the road in less than 15 minutes after getting back to my car, where the longest part was reading the directions & refilling my tire with air.

After 4 more flat tires that summer due to nails & screws, I could get back on the road in about 10 minutes without issues (Rip out the nail / screw, plug the tire, fill it with air). Last fall, went backpacking & had a flat in the middle of a two track out in BFE, on wet muddy soil, no cell service, & about 20 miles from civilization, where I'd never be able to jack the car up w/ the factory jack without randomly finding a large piece of plywood in the woods... 10 minutes later, was back running where I was able to park the car at my start point for 5 days while I camped / hiked, & drove home 250 miles without any issues, nor the odd / unsafe handling characteristics of a different type of spare tire being mixed in... Also drove that same patched up tire for the next week back & fourth to work until the next weekend where I could get it replaced.

Even with a spare, I'd definitely recommend having one of these patch kits & an air compressor in the car, along w/ a pair of pliers / channel locks to rip out the screw or nail.

One other benefit of having the air compressor in the car is when you get stuck in snow, mud, or sand... Deflate your tires to about 15-20 PSI to get a lot of extra traction in the really soft stuff, fill tires back up after you're unstuck / back on public roads. Did this in E46 once, & a lot in my 4-runner after getting "snowed in" at the trail head after an out & back overnight winter backpacking / camping. Also, would prove useful if your spare tire is flat after years of neglect

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SPL15 makes a good point about needing a piece of heavy plywood to put under the jack, even if your not going off-road.

I manually check and top off my tire pressures every two or three weeks. O.k. maybe four weeks now that I'm getting old and lazy, and have TPMS. I have a high-quality bicycle hand pump. I'd rather get some exercise pumping up a tire than wrestling with an extension cord and listening to the racket of a cheap electric pump. Topeak makes a lot of high quality pumps, including some that also have a CO2 cartridge for rapid inflation. They also sell replacement parts for them. They make low-pressure, high-volume pumps that work better for car tires, including the 60 PSI spare. 60 PSI is considered "low pressure" in the bicycle world.

I top off my spare at least every 6k miles, when I rotate the tires. When I'm not lazy, I also do it every three months. I always carry my bicycle hand pump with me on road trips. It's come in handy when I've encountered drastic temperature drops on a trip, and needed to adjust the pressure upward.

I'm not a big fan of plugs and slime. A proper plug-patch will usually last the life of a tire. Plugs are a a hit-or-miss situation. Slime is a mess to clean up.
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I never had a problem with plugs and half the time I put them without using the rubber cement.
I think the key with plugs is to ream/file the hole good and trim the end that sticks out.

I use non rft winter tires with spare bought a year ago assembled for approx 230, forget which site it was. Before then, I carried a summer tire as a spare and a snow tire as a share as I don't trust rft.
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you canuse the jack kit from an e53 x5, I took mine out before I got rid of the car, and had my local tire place get me the spare tire foam insert,nuts and rim from the dealer(they did give me a discount) plus they mounted it. If ypu need the whole kit expect to be the 250-300 range all said and done.
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SPL15 makes a good point about needing a piece of heavy plywood to put under the jack, even if your not going off-road.

I manually check and top off my tire pressures every two or three weeks. O.k. maybe four weeks now that I'm getting old and lazy, and have TPMS. I have a high-quality bicycle hand pump. I'd rather get some exercise pumping up a tire than wrestling with an extension cord and listening to the racket of a cheap electric pump. Topeak makes a lot of high quality pumps, including some that also have a CO2 cartridge for rapid inflation. They also sell replacement parts for them. They make low-pressure, high-volume pumps that work better for car tires, including the 60 PSI spare. 60 PSI is considered "low pressure" in the bicycle world.

I top off my spare at least every 6k miles, when I rotate the tires. When I'm not lazy, I also do it every three months. I always carry my bicycle hand pump with me on road trips. It's come in handy when I've encountered drastic temperature drops on a trip, and needed to adjust the pressure upward.

I'm not a big fan of plugs and slime. A proper plug-patch will usually last the life of a tire. Plugs are a a hit-or-miss situation. Slime is a mess to clean up.
Ya, don't use the slime stuff you dump into the tire... That stuff does not work well, at all...

What I'm talking about are the rubber plugs you force into the hole w/ a pusher tool. The only time I've found they do not work is a sidewall tear / "snake bite" type of pinch on the sidewall, & on the tread IF the outer rubber separates from the inner belts (Not common).

I keep my spare as a complete last ditch backup before calling a flat bed. With the tire patch kit & a compressor, you're likely to never ever need the spare tire at all.
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2010 X5 E70 without runflats or a spare. I want to buy a spare wheel and tire, the jacking tools, and the foam insert but haven't liked the prices I have seen. So now I am checking Craigslist and junkyards for X5s being parted out and my question is: Should I only be looking at 2007-2013's to make sure the fit is right or are there older years that would fit? Thanks for any guidance!
I swapped my RFT's for non-RFT's and got the entire spare setup from BMW ("I got a guy"). I don't have 3rd row so everything fit fine in its space. I spent under $500, but have seen the same kits (OEM) averaging $450-$550. That and roadside assistance is all I need.

I checked around a lot and it was almost the same in pricing for me getting anything similar or used.

Q has all the info posted as always
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Id def price out complete from a discounted dealer like ecs tuning. I already had the jack and parts so I only needed the tire and rim.
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+1 on the e53 jack being the same.


By the time you build the whole kit it adds up and the e53 jacks and lug wrenches are a lot cheaper.


I built a spare kit for my wife's tesla using the BMW X5 rim (~$90 shipped?), the e53 jack (~$60 from ebay), the foam tire insert (~45?) and a brand new tire for about $150... So it added up to over $340...

For my e70 I actually increased the size of the spare to a 175/90/18 to match my 265/60/18 setup.

To do it on the cheap for my x5...

I bought a used tire/wheel from an infiniti q70 on ebay for around $90. Discount tire actually mounted it for me for $7 and just recycled infiniti steel wheel for me (just make sure you get a tire that isn't too old). So all in all I was into it for $190 for the new bmw wheel and used tire without the foam or jack.

If you want a stock sized spare look for a 155/90/18 which you can find on a mazda cx7 and some other cars. Tirerack also has the stock size new for $130 so that is probably the best thing to do...

I sold my original e70 spare tire and wheel on ebay which was hadn't been used but was 12 years sold for $300 shipped. They do sell for and cost that much even though you can get a new wheel and tire fully mounted for about $230 if you order them separately and deal with the hassles of doing it...

Then you need one of my cargo cover bracket and lift shock kits so you don't hit your head while getting the spare in and out....

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Old 03-27-2019, 06:21 AM
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I bought an OE tire and wheel yesterday for $200 from a local guy. Now I need to get the tools and foam insert. But I noticed the lift shock is not there and I can't find a part number for it and whatever screws it uses. It's not the end of the world if I don't have this, but it would be nice.
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I bought an OE tire and wheel yesterday for $200 from a local guy. Now I need to get the tools and foam insert. But I noticed the lift shock is not there and I can't find a part number for it and whatever screws it uses. It's not the end of the world if I don't have this, but it would be nice.
I might have been promoting a project of mine to reproduce a copy of the bracket with an aftermarket shock a little too shamelessly there.

I sent you a PM and posted it in the classifieds.

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Got mine the other day and installed it in about two minutes. I don't even know why this is not standard equipment since the battery is back there. Thanks.
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I am a 1st time BMW owner with this 2009 X5 48I that I purchased in December, a month ago. I've owned an 80 series Land Cruiser for 20 yrs now, so I'm familiar with a full time 4WD rig and it's needs. Imagine my dismay to aquire a full size spare and try to store it in the compartment that it belongs. What I find even more distressing, when I do research, is that it's considered rare to carry a full size spare. It's patch kits or the compact donut that's the norm. Or there's even some that don't bother and run the run flat tires. I guess I just don't understand BMW's logic to have a drive train that is as sensitive as it is to running unmatched size tires and not have a full time spare and room to stow it as standard equipment. I live in rural Oregon, so BMW dealers, indies and auto recylers with BMW's in them are practically non existent. When I buy tires for my Land Cruiser, it's 5 at a time and the spare is rotated with the other 4 to keep them relatively equal in size. That's what I'm shooting for with the X5. I was also quite disappointed to discover that BMW stopped installing the strut on the rear floor deck. I found the parts needed in another thread and they're on their way. Obviously, I don't have the 3rd row seats, so there should be room to stow the full size spare, if it wasn't 10+" wide. I'm considering trimming the deck and storing it vertically on the right side, (U.S.passenger side). The tire size that this X5 has is 255/50/19 - all 4.
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With a middle aged 4.8 you will soon have more pressing issues to deal with. And your location is not so remote or isolated as others.

Your travel time to Boise is about the same as for me to get to my dealer, if the ferry runs - often not due to ice or weather.
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I suspect that xDrive quickly figures out there's a smaller diameter donut spare tire installed and disengages the front driveshaft. Dissimilar diameter tires on the same axle doesn't hurt as long has you have an open (not limited-slip or locking) differential.
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Wishful thinking...
Frau Putzer's G01 X3 has a spare tire. It's has a significantly smaller diameter than the "outside tires." The owners manual says that there can be adverse handling characteristics when the spare is installed. It doesn't say anything about only using the spare for short distances.

Also, it would be easy to develop an algorithm in the xDrive software that quickly detects a smaller diameter spare installed, possibly even taking TPMS data into account. Code is cheap. Actually, the first copy of code is expensive. But, the next ten million copies of the code are free. That's how Bill Gates go so rich.
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I suspect that xDrive quickly figures out there's a smaller diameter donut spare tire installed and disengages the front driveshaft. Dissimilar diameter tires on the same axle doesn't hurt as long has you have an open (not limited-slip or locking) differential.
The space saver spare is the same diameter as the normal tire.

Tire Size Comparison
Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
155/90-18 5.5in 14.5in 29.0in 91.1in 696 0.0%
255/50-19 5.0in 14.5in 29.0in 91.2in 695 0.2%
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