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Old 02-08-2020, 10:35 AM
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This is the car that that made BMW famous.

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Old 02-08-2020, 10:39 AM
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History hasn't been kind to the E21. I haven't seen one in years. But, back around 2000 I saw one in pristine condition in, of all places, a community college student parking lot.

One piece of trivia is that the European-spec' 320i had an in-line six cylinder engine, where the U.S. spec' 320i had a four cylinder engine. In-line six cylinder engines are inherently smooth, and make a better sound (bark instead of a drone).

Although the E21 was the first "3 Series," the "two-door sports sedan" was defined by the E10, the car that saved BMW from being a division of Daimler-Benz.

This particular E10 was built by BMW Classic, the restoration division of BMW, around 2003 from a shell and new parts.
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Agree with Herr Putzer. 2002 is the one that really kicked things off with a famous article by David E. Davis Jr. (Link below) and that model is what got the group of people who founded the bmw cca together.


https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...w-2002-review/

I had a 69 which was converted to tii with 5 speed. Fun to drive and was phenomenal in its era, but very crude by today's standards. I miss my e30s more than the tii.


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Old 02-08-2020, 12:51 PM
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Although the E21 was the first "3 Series," the "two-door sports sedan" was defined by the E10, the car that saved BMW from being a division of Daimler-Benz.
Not to quibble over E10 vs. Typ 114 vs. 2002, but yes, it was the 1600/2002 that put BMW on the map. The E21 was such a dog in the handling department, even with the "S" package. The E30 was an enormous improvement.
Here's my '74 2002tii:

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History hasn't been kind to the E21. I haven't seen one in years. But, back around 2000 I saw one in pristine condition in, of all places, a community college student parking lot.

One piece of trivia is that the European-spec' 320i had an in-line six cylinder engine, where the U.S. spec' 320i had a four cylinder engine. In-line six cylinder engines are inherently smooth, and make a better sound (bark instead of a drone).

Although the E21 was the first "3 Series," the "two-door sports sedan" was defined by the E10, the car that saved BMW from being a division of Daimler-Benz.

This particular E10 was built by BMW Classic, the restoration division of BMW, around 2003 from a shell and new parts.
This one is Euro spec. In Italy
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This one is Euro spec. In Italy
Yep... small bumpers, no right side mirror, and grill badge give it away as such.

I remember stopping by the local BMW dealership (which was on the corner of a big Pontiac-GMC dealership's lot, and had a one-car showroom) on Sundays and oogling over 320i's. Come to think of it, it took me 25 years of oogling before I ever bought a BMW. When I was 41 years old, I was back in my home town for a visit and stopped by that same dealership... more oogling. But, I found myself at just about the front of the E46 M3 waiting list, which ended up being two years long, and realizing I was in the right place at the right time.

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There's a farm in northern MN with a 2002 that's been apart for about 30 years. It was going to be a project car. He tuned up his sister's 240Z is how I met him. I was up their three years ago and the engine was still in the milking barn. The rest is in the equipment barn.

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I need to look through my old slides to find a picture of my '77 320i...wait, have to find my old slides first. Lol.

I drove my father's then brand-new 1978 E21 320i to my high school senior prom!

I was hooked after that!!
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I Love E21's ! I am currently on my 3rd.
both the current car, as well as the previous one have the S package.
It is sad how under-rated the E21 is, but that's ok, because that makes them more affordable.
I waited 14+ years for the opportunity to buy my current 320is. I had been watching, & occasionally checking in with it's previous owner the whole 14 years. I Jumped on the opportunity ,as soon as it became available.
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I went from my "Italian love affair" FIAT 124 1600 sports coupe in 1981 to a brand new BMW E21 323i - a 6 cyl 2.3 litre motor. Did they sell this model in USA? Silky smooth power but handling left something to be desired with a tendency to lift a rear wheel in enthusiastic cornering. Since then, never been without a BMW in the family......currently a 2012 X5 M50d & frau Yellowbird's 2016 440i convertible.
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I went from my "Italian love affair" FIAT 124 1600 sports coupe in 1981 to a brand new BMW E21 323i - a 6 cyl 2.3 litre motor. Did they sell this model in USA? Silky smooth power but handling left something to be desired with a tendency to lift a rear wheel in enthusiastic cornering.
No, we got the 320i 4-cylinder - initially a 2.0 - then downsized to a 1.8 in the 80s. The handling was scary (to me, driving a 2002) even in the Sport version. The E30 was a great driving improvement, even in the 318i & 325e versions.
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