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Old 05-06-2020, 01:24 PM
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Help Please: Gearing modes vs. Driving Modes

In my BMW 2017 750li (its an Alpina) there are 2 sets of modes i can play with:

1. The Driving modes: This is next to the gear shifter & I can choose eco pro, comfort, sport or adaptive.

2. Sliding the shifter itself to the left: puts me in another sport mode.

What specifically do each of these functions do? And how do they differ? Do they overlap at all. When Im in sport & sport, what specifically is the car doing?

From what Ive read the driving modes are mostly oil compression in the suspension, and the gear shifting knob move ramps up RPMs and shift points.

Is there more to it?
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In my BMW 2017 750li (its an Alpina) there are 2 sets of modes i can play with:

1. The Driving modes: This is next to the gear shifter & I can choose eco pro, comfort, sport or adaptive.

2. Sliding the shifter itself to the left: puts me in another sport mode.

What specifically do each of these functions do? And how do they differ? Do they overlap at all. When Im in sport & sport, what specifically is the car doing?

From what Ive read the driving modes are mostly oil compression in the suspension, and the gear shifting knob move ramps up RPMs and shift points.

Is there more to it?

I think all g11/g12s have the same driving modes (eco pro, comfort, sport or adaptive).

Generally speaking, the most aggressive driving mode (in terms of steering, suspension, throttle response, transmission shift points) to least aggressive (most economical) driving modes are as follows: sport+ > sport > adaptive > comfort > comfort+ > eco pro.

Sliding the gear shifter to the left gives more aggressive transmission shift points.

So most aggressive setting will be sport mode & sliding shifter to the left, and least aggressive is eco pro with shifter in normal position.
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Ditto above. The gear shift lever mode(s) sport/manual basically remaps the transmission shift patterns. The driving experience modes (Eco-Pro/comfort/comfort+/sport/sport+) can use the steering, suspension, transmission and can vary depending on how the car is optioned (reg suspension, air suspension, EDC or DDC, etc).

You can get an idea of what can happen in the chart below from the 3 series crowd...the chart can be extrapolated over to other BMW models with the steptronic transmission and driving experience mode buttons:

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Isn't the only difference between Sport mode and the gearshift position the ability to do manual shifts?

You can put the car in Sport mode and it will make all of those changes, but you can only do your own shifts if you move the gear lever to the left.
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Ditto above. The gear shift lever mode(s) sport/manual basically remaps the transmission shift patterns. The driving experience modes (Eco-Pro/comfort/comfort+/sport/sport+) can use the steering, suspension, transmission and can vary depending on how the car is optioned (reg suspension, air suspension, EDC or DDC, etc).

You can get an idea of what can happen in the chart below from the 3 series crowd...the chart can be extrapolated over to other BMW models with the steptronic transmission and driving experience mode buttons:

THIS is exactly what I wanted to visually understand this.
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THIS is exactly what I wanted to visually understand this.
THANK YOU!

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1. Isn't the only difference between Sport mode and the gearshift position the ability to do manual shifts?

2.You can put the car in Sport mode and it will make all of those changes, but you can only do your own shifts if you move the gear lever to the left.
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1. No...manual shifting is not the only difference. The gear shift lever's S/M gate position will change the shift mapping of the transmission. It has been the traditional "extreme sport mode" for BMWs when BMW was going with STEPTRONIC gear shift levers (see description of how STEPTRONIC works in the BMW info below). The gear shift lever's Sport mode only changes the transmissions shift mapping and doesn't include any of the chassis/steering/suspension changes that are part of the driving experience button (sport+/sport/comfort/eco-pro). Then there's the manual shift activation as well.

2. Study the chart in the post above...and take note of the section that shows what occurs with transmission shift speed and shift RPM when the gear shift lever is in the D vs DS (sport) mode. Again, the gear shift lever sport mode has traditionally been the extreme sport mode but when you add the driving experience button...it brings the suspension/steering/chassis changes along with the extreme transmission shift mapping to the game.

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In my BMW 2017 750li (its an Alpina) there are 2 sets of modes i can play with:

1. The Driving modes: This is next to the gear shifter & I can choose eco pro, comfort, sport or adaptive.

2. Sliding the shifter itself to the left: puts me in another sport mode.

What specifically do each of these functions do? And how do they differ? Do they overlap at all. When Im in sport & sport, what specifically is the car doing?

From what Ive read the driving modes are mostly oil compression in the suspension, and the gear shifting knob move ramps up RPMs and shift points.

Is there more to it?
Is there a difference between BMW750 Li and BMW750Li Alpina?
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Is there a difference between BMW750 Li and BMW750Li Alpina?
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https://carbuzz.com/cars/bmw/alpina-b7#review
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Alpina makes B7s, not 750Li's, in Germany Alpina is its own car company, they fine tune BMW engines and hand craft interiors but they leave as B7s, B5s, B3s not the BMW naming convention of 750Li, etc,...

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