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Old 04-22-2009, 04:53 PM
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Say buh-bye to London and Madrid drop off locations

I just read a bulletin from BMW where as of July 1, 2009, the London and Madrid drop off locations will no longer be accepting drop offs for the BMW European Delivery program any more.

The max insurance period will be changing to 5 months instead of 6 months. That's effective right now-right now.

If you plan on doing an ED for that long, well, I not only envy you , but you can get more details from me via pm or contact whoever you're doing your ED with and they can give you the skinny.

The standard 14 day insurance period remains unchanged.

That is all.
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:18 PM
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Thanks for the update. I went in and updated the Wiki.

I wish I could do 5 months in Europe :-D
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Boy have things changed. I actually did an 10 month ED in '91-'92. Picked up the car one month into a 11 month European assignement. At that time everything was included in the discounted price... registration, insurance, etc. No up charges or added costs. Even had the US delivery location changed right before we returned (left San Diego, returned to Chicago). Looking forward to picking up my second ED BMW next month at Welt. My 19 year old son is going with me, who was 1 last time I did this. This time I will be there for a week. Again, boy have things changed.
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I just read a bulletin from BMW where as of July 1, 2009, the London and Madrid drop off locations will no longer be accepting drop offs for the BMW European Delivery program any more.

The max insurance period will be changing to 5 months instead of 6 months. That's effective right now-right now.

If you plan on doing an ED for that long, well, I not only envy you , but you can get more details from me via pm or contact whoever you're doing your ED with and they can give you the skinny.

The standard 14 day insurance period remains unchanged.

That is all.
I was thinking of going to Spain and Portugal for my next ED (probably in 2013 the way things are going ). Guess that plan is out the door unless Madrid drop off comes back.

Thanks for the information.
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Interesting, I'm wondering how many drop-offs they get each year.
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I just read a bulletin from BMW where as of July 1, 2009, the London and Madrid drop off locations will no longer be accepting drop offs for the BMW European Delivery program any more.

The max insurance period will be changing to 5 months instead of 6 months. That's effective right now-right now.

If you plan on doing an ED for that long, well, I not only envy you , but you can get more details from me via pm or contact whoever you're doing your ED with and they can give you the skinny.

The standard 14 day insurance period remains unchanged.

That is all.
Thanks. That really change things up. I have been looking at a trip with either London or Madrid drop off. I either drive crazy or leave Madrid out of the trip.
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I just read a bulletin from BMW where as of July 1, 2009, the London and Madrid drop off locations will no longer be accepting drop offs for the BMW European Delivery program any more.
That's too bad. I'd guess that is the end of any chance of MINI offering Oxford delivery to US customers. Won't be any 'festers coming to North Wales either.


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If you plan on doing an ED for that long, well,...
The UK has started to feel 'normal'. I'm even understanding newspaper headlines like "Allister in Wonderland" That is just odd.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:52 AM
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Adrian,
Thanks for the info!
Sad!
We have fun on our 2006 ED in Spain - great country with great food.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:11 AM
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Oh, no.

No Madrid?!

Sigh.

Audi still offers a Madrid drop-off, I guess I'll head on over to audiworld then.

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Old 04-23-2009, 10:28 AM
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Oh, no.

No Madrid?!

Sigh.

Audi still offers a Madrid drop-off, I guess I'll head on over to audiworld then.

Ciao!
This location was not specific to BMW - Volvo and Audi post this location as their drop off also. I will not surprise if they follow BMW (not that I care about Volvo).
BTW - Volvo charge extra euros to drop off in Madrid.
Madrid - € 431 / XC90 € 475
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This sucks, I was thinking about a Madrid dropoff as well in August. BMWNA you're making a mistake here. Frankly without taking an ED discount that puts a lot of the competition much closer into range and reduces the odds I'll buy an M3 vs say a GT-R. Why would they do this?

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This sucks, I was thinking about a Madrid dropoff as well in August.
+1.

Radical change of plans...


Anyway, here is the memo I got today (the same day the delivery date was confirmed), which explains why they did it.

European Delivery – Drop off location change

Effective July 1, 2009, drop off locations Madrid and London have been eliminated from the European Delivery Program and will no longer be available for customers.

Available drop off locations are:
· Germany: Munich, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Bremerhaven; Sindelfingen
· Austria: Vienna
· France: Niece, Paris
· Netherlands: Amsterdam
· Switzerland: Geneva, Zurich

The maximum insurance period has also changed to 5 months. The 6 months coverage is no longer available, effective immediately.

The change in drop off locations and maximum insurance coverage has been implemented due to a new law in Germany that requires vehicles to be registered and insured until they arrive at Port Bremerhaven. Due to this new requirement, all European Delivery vehicles will have additional 13 days coverage to allow for European Inland transportation starting on July 1, 2009. That additional time can only be used by the trucking company for the inland transportation of the vehicle and can not be used by the customer to extend their stay.

By law, the maximum stay of European Delivery vehicle cannot exceed 6 months. Therefore, the registration office will only allow a maximum of 5 months plus 13
days (to allow for inland transportation) registration period.

When assisting your customer with the planning of their trip, please ensure that they understand that BMW of North America will continuously offer the standard 14 days registration and insurance coverage on all European Deliveries. Additional coverage can be purchased at rates listed on www.bmwusa.com/europeandelivery.

Thank you for supporting the European Delivery Program and remember what an
amazing experience the BMW Welt delivery provides.
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Yep, my CA emailed today re the dropping of the drop-off locations at London & Madrid. Economics has to be playing a big part. When I first saw the email header my stomach dropped as I thought, "Noooo... not Nice" - would've completely effed up our plans as we can't drop off in Paris on w/end.

Sorry for those that had planned on Madrid/London.
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This sucks, I was thinking about a Madrid dropoff as well in August. BMWNA you're making a mistake here. Frankly without taking an ED discount that puts a lot of the competition much closer into range and reduces the odds I'll buy an M3 vs say a GT-R. Why would they do this?
I don't really see the huge problem here, at least for BMW. I can only recall one person who posted that he did a Madrid drop-off here. Perhaps there were a few others. But not many. There were a few more for the U.K. but not many.

Why should the overwhelming majority of customers pay to subsidize a tiny percentage of people?

I suppose if I were running the operation, I would have added a fee for Madrid and London similar to Italy rather than dropping the locations entirely.

But this does nothing to change the competitive landscape or pricing unless you are buying another car where it's free to drop it off in Madrid.
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Why should the overwhelming majority of customers pay to subsidize a tiny percentage of people?
There are 3 people on this post who wanted to drop off in Madrid.

I would not expect there to be many more customers dropping off in Zurich, Geneva, Vienna, or even Sindelfingen or Bremerhaven. Yet we're subsidizing for them too.

A fee would have been a much better approach, as well as more advanced warning.

I'll now have to use another day to drive back to Nice, not nice.
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There are 3 people on this post who wanted to drop off in Madrid.
Well, two thinking about it and one person who sounded like he was planning it.

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I would not expect there to be many more customers dropping off in Zurich, Geneva, Vienna, or even Sindelfingen or Bremerhaven. Yet we're subsidizing for them too.
Bremerhaven? How are we subsidizing Bremerhaven? That makes no sense at all.

As for Sindelfingen, I would imagine the trucks going from there to the port are usually pretty full so an extra BMW doesn't really matter. Re Zürich or Genf or Wien, that may very well be the case but Zürich and Wien definitely have many more drop-offs than Madrid and London.
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it ruins a nice potential itinerary:

Munchen->Black Forest->Champagne->down the Normandy coast->Burgundy->Cathar country->Spain/Madrid.

Meh.
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Thanks. That really change things up. I have been looking at a trip with either London or Madrid drop off. I either drive crazy or leave Madrid out of the trip.
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it ruins a nice potential itinerary:

Munchen->Black Forest->Champagne->down the Normandy coast->Burgundy->Cathar country->Spain/Madrid.
You might still have a option. Look at this post and the ones that follow it:
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...09&postcount=4
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To Jspira's point - I can sympathise with the economics, but they could've left them on with a fee. So for example I just learned I need to be in Portugal for business in August (unless the world collapses of course) and I was strongly thinking M3 ED (will have been 2 years with my 335 convert). But now obviously I'd have to drive all the way back to Nice, and I can't get a non-stop flight home from there so not only does it add hours of driving but also a stop and a few hours in my travel home. I'd be happy to pay $350 or whatever to do the drop in Madrid.
Obviously this has just been announced so maybe by July 1 they'll find a way to allow a fee to be paid, because obviously Harms hasn't closed their offices in these two cities and I'm sure they'd love the business.
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I suppose if I were running the operation, I would have added a fee for Madrid and London similar to Italy rather than dropping the locations entirely.
++1 a fee for Italia so why not Madrid & London?
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