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Old 01-11-2016, 08:19 PM
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I am driving a Lexus GS now and want to buy a 4 wheel drive 435 sedan. My friend told me I can upgrade this 435 by adding a chip and it will go from 300 hp to 400 hp.

Anyone change from Lexus to Bimmer and can you share how is different from driving experiences?

Will this increase gas usage? Will the void the warranty and what is the success rate?

Secondly, when was it first come out? I was thinking of getting an off lease vehicle.

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To put it simply your Lexus is like a hot cousin. Great to take out, but no fun can be had.

On the other hand, the 435 is a high maintenance hot b*tch, but if you take care of her right, you'll both have alot of fun.

As for your other questions, search is your friend.
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I am driving a Lexus GS now and want to buy a 4 wheel drive 435 sedan. My friend told me I can upgrade this 435 by adding a chip and it will go from 300 hp to 400 hp.

Anyone change from Lexus to Bimmer and can you share how is different from driving experiences?

Will this increase gas usage? Will the void the warranty and what is the success rate?

Secondly, when was it first come out? I was thinking of getting an off lease vehicle.

Thanks!
First things first--"sedan" and "435" are not terms that are allowed in the same sentence BMW's world, unless there is a "not" between them.
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Take that "hot" 435 for a test drive...then you will know.

400 hp? BMW stock M3s and M4s take a 3.0L i6 all the way to 425 hp. Do you need that kind of power? Well, I suppose if you want to track your car, learn how to drive a car at its limits for fun or get into street racing. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you are really after.

I've driven the Lexus and it would have been our 2nd choice...but the 435ix GC handled better, was more fun to drive, had a far superior infotainment system and more trunk space.
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The one thing you'll notice is that a 300hp lexus doesn't feel like a 300hp bmw. BMW's have better/higher torque and that makes a huge difference. You really don't need a chip, the 335/435 will do 0 to 60 in less than 5 seconds already (I got timed at 4.7, which was my fastest time), do you really need to go 0 to 60 in 4.3 seconds? Plus, if you don't plan on changing out the tires, chipping your car will be pointless, you'll probably just spin out if you smash the gas pedal from a stop.
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I am driving a Lexus GS now and want to buy a 4 wheel drive 435 sedan. My friend told me I can upgrade this 435 by adding a chip and it will go from 300 hp to 400 hp.

Anyone change from Lexus to Bimmer and can you share how is different from driving experiences?

Will this increase gas usage? Will the void the warranty and what is the success rate?

Secondly, when was it first come out? I was thinking of getting an off lease vehicle.

Thanks!
As long as you do not drive the car more aggressively, the tune will not change the MPG
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I am driving a Lexus GS now and want to buy a 4 wheel drive 435 sedan. My friend told me I can upgrade this 435 by adding a chip and it will go from 300 hp to 400 hp.

Anyone change from Lexus to Bimmer and can you share how is different from driving experiences?

Will this increase gas usage? Will the void the warranty and what is the success rate?

Secondly, when was it first come out? I was thinking of getting an off lease vehicle.

Thanks!
I have some experience around your question. I had been a long-time Lexus fan until the E63/E64 6 Series cars came along. Back then, I was enjoying an SC430, but the lines of the 6 Series convertible had all my attention. I test drove a year-old 645 Cic and traded my Lexus on the spot. The SC430 was advertised as a sports coupe, but the 6 could run rings around it...horsepower, handling, driving feel, and performance were all pluses...I felt connected to this car, something I never really felt with the Lexus. I've since owned several BMW cars, including an M6. I cannot speak for the 4 Series, but it is the successor to BMW's iconic 3 Series coupe, which was a particularly nimble and high-performing vehicle. Long story short, you need to try out this car and make your own determination.
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If you can add the chip for increasing 100 bhp then no one would buy a M3 or M4.
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If you can add the chip for increasing 100 bhp then no one would buy a M3 or M4.
With 580 posts im very surprised to see this kind of post coming from you

Ever since introducing the N54 engine in 2006, tuners have easily been able to extract lots of HP from these cars.
My 2007 335 puts down 450 whp and 500 wtq on stock turbos compared to 265 whp and 280 wtq stock ( i run tune, downpipes, intercooler, charge pipe, intake with E85)

M3 has a lot more to offer than just HP, including the superior handling.

You can increase the 328 / 335 power with some simple bolt ons, it is also just as easy to do the same with the new M3 / M4

Granted with some engines you wont get as much as 100 whp with only a tune, but that number is achievable with more mods and better fueling

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To put it simply your Lexus is like a hot cousin. Great to take out, but no fun can be had.

On the other hand, the 435 is a high maintenance hot b*tch, but if you take care of her right, you'll both have alot of fun.

As for your other questions, search is your friend.

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Old 01-21-2016, 11:46 AM
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With 580 posts im very surprised to see this kind of post coming from you

Ever since introducing the N54 engine in 2006, tuners have easily been able to extract lots of HP from these cars.
My 2007 335 puts down 450 whp and 500 wtq on stock turbos compared to 265 whp and 280 wtq stock ( i run tune, downpipes, intercooler, charge pipe, intake with E85)

M3 has a lot more to offer than just HP, including the superior handling.

You can increase the 328 / 335 power with some simple bolt ons, it is also just as easy to do the same with the new M3 / M4

Granted with some engines you wont get as much as 100 whp with only a tune, but that number is achievable with more mods and better fueling

Here are couple dyno charts

N54 completely stock (more mods will get you even more power)



Thank you all for replying!

I am starting fresh and was reading and searching this forum for 435 and 428. I have difficulty understanding different model and engine number. F/N??? LOL.

Actually 300hp would be enough for me like Rich said. Looks like 428 is N20 4 cylinder and 435 is N55?? with 6 cylinder. Can the 428 be chipped to make it to 300hp???? (its 6.6k with tax differences from 435)

Mike, is the MPPK the package for this upgrade chip to upto 400hp or outside chip?
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Another thing about Lexus

I still don't understand the RC-F. It's a V8 with 467hp and only does 0 to 60 in about 4.5 seconds...marginally better than a 335.

Everyone is going with turbo in one way or another these days, small engines supported by turbo is good power and much better fuel consumption.

To me, the RC-F is a complete joke.
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Thank you all for replying!

I am starting fresh and was reading and searching this forum for 435 and 428. I have difficulty understanding different model and engine number. F/N??? LOL.

Actually 300hp would be enough for me like Rich said. Looks like 428 is N20 4 cylinder and 435 is N55?? with 6 cylinder. Can the 428 be chipped to make it to 300hp???? (its 6.6k with tax differences from 435)

Mike, is the MPPK the package for this upgrade chip to upto 400hp or outside chip?

428 with a tune and some mods will make 300 hp easy

Skip the MPPK and get a BMS product.
Either Jb stage 1 or Jb4 stage 2
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Old 01-22-2016, 11:16 AM
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428 with a tune and some mods will make 300 hp easy

Skip the MPPK and get a BMS product.
Either Jb stage 1 or Jb4 stage 2

Mike,
How many horse power can Jb Stage 1 and Jb4 Stage 2 increase to 428 and 435?

What is the time from 0-60 after Stage 1 and Stage 2 on both 428 and 435?

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I still don't understand the RC-F. It's a V8 with 467hp and only does 0 to 60 in about 4.5 seconds...marginally better than a 335.

Everyone is going with turbo in one way or another these days, small engines supported by turbo is good power and much better fuel consumption.

To me, the RC-F is a complete joke.
Can you imagine how pointless is for Porsche to keep their 911 GT3 model on normally aspirated 6 cylinder engine revving to almost 10,000 rpm? And it is the most expensive 911 and not even most powerful? Especially now that even base 911 and 911S have turbocharges 6 cylinders in them. Pretty damn stupid, right?

Yes, the above was sarcasm.

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Mike,
How many horse power can Jb Stage 1 and Jb4 Stage 2 increase to 428 and 435?

What is the time from 0-60 after Stage 1 and Stage 2 on both 428 and 435?

Thanks!
OP, extrapolating from the questions you are asking, I am not sure you are looking for your next car in the right place. No, I will not pontificate nor preach to you here - your money, your call. More power to you (no pun intended)
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.......Actually 300hp would be enough for me like Rich said. Looks like 428 is N20 4 cylinder and 435 is N55?? with 6 cylinder. YES Can the 428 be chipped to make it to 300hp????YES (its 6.6k with tax differences from 435) Base Models

Mike, is the MPPK the package for this upgrade chip to upto 400hp NO or outside chip? YES
328 = N20 OR N26, no BMW MPPK but Dinan and Burger (JB4) have tuning kits, Dinan is 312 HP for Stage 1, Burger is 295 HP gains (more for Stage II tunes)

335 = N55 BMW MPPK, Dinan and Burger (JB4) all have tuning kits, MPPK is 335 HP, Dinan and JB4 are 360 HP Stage 1 (more for Stage II or Stage III tunes)

To get 400 HP you will have to get a Stage III tune along with new intake, exhaust and inter-cooler, this would run $5-7K+

Note: Keep the warranty with the Dinan tune, JB4 risks warranty claims.
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328 = N20 OR N26, no BMW MPPK but Dinan and Burger (JB4) have tuning kits, Dinan is 312 HP for Stage 1, Burger is 295 HP gains (more for Stage II tunes)

335 = N55 BMW MPPK, Dinan and Burger (JB4) all have tuning kits, MPPK is 335 HP, Dinan and JB4 are 360 HP Stage 1 (more for Stage II or Stage III tunes)

To get 400 HP you will have to get a Stage III tune along with new intake, exhaust and inter-cooler, this would run $5-7K+

Note: Keep the warranty with the Dinan tune, JB4 risks warranty claims.
Does not work that way BMS, BMW & Dinan all use different scales to generate their horsepower numbers.

Have not bothered with the current BMW's but my 335is JB4, $505, was quicker than an identical 335is with a Dinan Stage III $2,000+, in the NHRA quarter mile. This is despite a quicker 60FT time by the other car.
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Have you actually driven the BMW yet . You may be pleasantly surprised at how much more a BMW 300HP is compared to Lexus 300HP. Most believe that BMW understates the actual HP. BMW delivers very high end torque with low RPM so you should notice a big difference, You may not even chip it.
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