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Old 05-22-2019, 11:03 AM
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Ok got an 08 328xi that I will put about 4000-5000k a year.im a bit confused. Is this up to spec for my car? I couldn't find 0w-30 ,just 5w-30. Thanks.
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Old 05-22-2019, 11:33 AM
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Ok got an 08 328xi that I will put about 4000-5000k a year.im a bit confused. Is this up to spec for my car? I couldn't find 0w-30 ,just 5w-30. Thanks.
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NO! Go to local wal mart and get Castrol 0W40.
Or: Castrol 06244 EDGE A3/B4 0W-30 Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 1 Quart, 6 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007G7PUMS..._cyz5Cb5EX887F

OR, if you want 5W30 “Euro” flavor, than this:
Castrol 03037 EDGE 5W-30 A3/B4 Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 5 quart https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0161A4CKG..._JFz5CbSGK3S00

BUT,
Take into consideration that top Castrol products for Euro gassers are 0W30 and 0W40, in that order.
5W30 I listed is mediocre.
Also, ANY oil that has BMW LL01 approval you can use. However, take into consideration that your average 5W30 oil in Wal Mart is not approved by BMW, far from it.

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Old 05-22-2019, 01:10 PM
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Also, ANY oil that has BMW LL01 approval you can use. However, take into consideration that your average 5W30 oil in Wal Mart is not approved by BMW, far from it.
+1. You MUST use an oil that meets BMW LL01 spec. No exceptions.
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:19 PM
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So Yukoner, then Castrol is out. How about the Moly stuff sold on FCP Euro? Any good? I like the idea of adding a detergent/cleaner into the crankcase before an oil change. I used seafoam on my Acura a few years ago. Washed out alot of crap before I put new oil in. What's your take on that stuff?
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:18 PM
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I have to add to this posting. I saw a few Mann oil filters on Amazon, yet not for the e90. Anyone familiar with the part number ? I cant believe that its not on Amazon. There's a BMW part dealer that has a BMW filter(or so they claim) for $14. Doesnt sound right to me.
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:22 PM
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Subnote: I can get one on FCP Euro, but their oil is expensive and I have to hit$49 for free shipping. Maybe I'll just buy their pricey oil as I need a filter wrench/remover as well. They have the Moly oil which is to spec.so....
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:16 PM
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FCP Euro oil looks reasonably priced.
Get the whole oil change kit.

When BMW owned Land Rover, they put a modified BMW engine in the Range Rover.
9 quarts of LL01 to fill that baby up.
They made the oil pan bigger to account for the fact that Range Rovers could climb much steeper hills, and they didn't want the pump to suck air.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:35 PM
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Maybe since it's my first I'll hoi with fcp euro. Only few dollars more a d I know I'm getting quality materials. Thanks
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:47 PM
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Ok so I'm playing it safe a d going with FCP Euro's oil change kit. Can anyone chime in on this stuff? The car was well maintained, but I don't any special treatment or additives were ever administered. Is it worth the money? I've dumped a can of Seafoam into the crankcase before an oil change on my old Acura
Didnt seem to cause any harm. If like to know what you old pros think . Thanks
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:48 PM
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Forgot the link!! Here it is :https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/6-c...y-lmk0003#desc
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Better to stay away from snake oils.
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So Yukoner, then Castrol is out.


Why is Castrol out? 0w-40 is ll01 correct?


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Old 05-22-2019, 06:25 PM
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Ok .I just thought they area reputable company, so....
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When I had MUCH older vehicles, I'd mess around with various additives and whatnot.
These engines are pretty good.
When you drain the oil take a look at at; best bet is to send a sample to have it analyzed.
If it's REALLY nasty, change the oil again in 3,000 miles.
A couple-three short interval oil changes will take care of most yucky stuff, without any shenanigans.
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Ok .I just thought they area reputable company, so....
They are, generally speaking.
But these engines like oil to the LL-01 specification.
So... give 'em what they want, they'll be nice to you in return.
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Liqui Moly is mediocre oil at best. Forget huge Made in Germany letters on packaging. They are one of the first companies who switched to HC base stocks in 1990’s (mineral stocks that are hydrocracked) and advertised that as “good” thing.
Get Castrol 0W40 in Wal Mart and oil filter at your local BMW dealer.
Castrol 0W40 is probably best 0/5W40 oil today on the market using healthy chunk of PAO base stocks (you want in your oil as much as possible PAO or Ester base stock, not mineral that is hydrocracked). It is cheap oil for what offers (why it is cheap has to do probably with marketing. Same oil in Europe goes for $20 for one liter).
Also, forget additives. Your manual states not to use additives. All additives you need you have in oil.



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Old 05-23-2019, 02:31 AM
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I didn't know that about fcp. Converting castrol. I'll just make sure it's ll01 .thanks
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:38 AM
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How can I verify if thunderstorm is upntonspec? I'm the question section there area bunch of buyers who say it is. I trust this forum more.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:38 AM
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Yes, get that Castrol.
Now, to confuse things more, new batches of Castrol 0W40 are going to come without LL01. Reason is that BMW is phasing out LL01 for LL04 in gas engines or for LL12FE etc. If you get bottle that doesn’t have LL01, do not worry. Oil is still compatible with LL01.


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Old 05-23-2019, 05:26 AM
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So Yukoner, then Castrol is out. How about the Moly stuff sold on FCP Euro? Any good? I like the idea of adding a detergent/cleaner into the crankcase before an oil change. I used seafoam on my Acura a few years ago. Washed out alot of crap before I put new oil in. What's your take on that stuff?
I'm late getting back to the thread so I see everyone's already commented

Yes, Castrol is OK, but you need the LL-01 formula. IIRC, Pennzoil also has a European LL-01 spec oil ? And IIRC Pennzoil is what the factory and dealers are moving to ? I could be wrong there, but I recall hearing somewhere (possibly from the dealer) that BMW themselves were moving from Castrol to Pennzoil (not because one is better than the other, but because of parent company ownership and all that muddled up big corporation BS).
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Yes, Castrol is OK, but you need the LL-01 formula. IIRC, Pennzoil also has a European LL-01 spec oil ? And IIRC Pennzoil is what the factory and dealers are moving to ? I could be wrong there, but I recall hearing somewhere (possibly from the dealer) that BMW themselves were moving from Castrol to Pennzoil (not because one is better than the other, but because of parent company ownership and all that muddled up big corporation BS).


Shell (owner of Pennzoil) is now sole supplier for BMW since 2014. BMW has tendency to go through oil companies every 15 years.
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 is LL01, but IMO not par with Castrol 0W40. It’s kinematic viscosity at 100c is equal to Castrol 0W40, but has lower HTHS, which indicates less sophisticated base stocks.
One thing that owners should take into consideration is that LL01 is not that stringent specification. In addition to LL01, one should look that oil has MB229.5. MB229.5 is most stringent specification in ACEA A3/B3 B4 class. Both Castrol 0W40 and Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 are approved for MB229.5.
For example, Castrol 5W40 that is available in Wal Mart has LL01 approval, but not MB229.5. It is mediocre oil at best and considering 0W40 is available at the same price, should be avoided. But that tells that MB229.5 is more stringent than LL01.
This is important as oil companies are not certifying LL01 anymore, so oil that is approved for MB229.5 will do more than well in engines requiring LL01.


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Old 05-23-2019, 10:56 AM
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Thank you! Ended up getting 5qts of the 0w-40 3b/4n . Its says its LL-01 spec.ill supplement the additional 2 qts with the same or BMW oil from the dealer which is a mile or so from my house. Got the proper Mann filter and O rings. Gott a filter wrench,torque wrench and draining pan. Just need some ramps or a Jack and some cholks and I should be able to do this. Is there a setting in the idiot lights that tell me at when the oil was last changed? Right now the oil level is right between low and full. If I do it prematurely, I figure they'res no harm in fresh oil.
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Thank you! Ended up getting 5qts of the 0w-40 3b/4n . Its says its LL-01 spec.ill supplement the additional 2 qts with the same or BMW oil from the dealer which is a mile or so from my house. Got the proper Mann filter and O rings. Gott a filter wrench,torque wrench and draining pan. Just need some ramps or a Jack and some cholks and I should be able to do this. Is there a setting in the idiot lights that tell me at when the oil was last changed? Right now the oil level is right between low and full. If I do it prematurely, I figure they'res no harm in fresh oil.


You have also 1qt bottles of Castrol 0W40 in Wal Mart. Do not mix this Castrol with BMW TPT oil.


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