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The all new 2016 BMW 330e eDrive - Starting at $43,700

The BMW 330e represents the next evolution of the beloved and iconic BMW 3 Series. Combining BMW's award-winning 2.0 liter 4-cylinder engine with a lithium-ion powered electric motor, the 330e delivers the legendary power you expect from a BMW with groundbreaking fuel efficiency: combined output of 248 hp and 310 lb-ft of torque that propels the 330e from 0-60 in just 5.9 seconds.

The 330e made its US debut at the 2015 Los Angeles Auto Show. It starts production in November 2015 and will arrive in showrooms during the first quarter of 2016. Pricing starts at $43,700 + $995 D&H.

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Intelligent efficiency
BMW EfficientDynamics eDrive technology promises exceptionally efficient performance as well as the potential for all-electric mobility with zero tailpipe emissions, ushering in a whole new form of driving experience in a Sports Sedan. An array of innovative technologies ensures you get from point A to B as efficiently as possible. Intelligent Route Planning, for example, analyzes your route, and uses data from the BMW Navigation System to seamlessly switch to all-electric at low speeds, providing a nearly silent, zero-emission drive.

Powertrain
The 330e combines BMW's award-winning 2.0-liter TwinPower Turbo 4-cylinder engine with an electric motor, powered by a lithium-ion battery, integrated into its 8-speed automatic transmission. The 2.0-liter 4-cylinder engine generates a maximum output of 180 hp and 215 lb-ft of peak torque and features a TwinScroll turbocharger, High Precision Injection, VALVETRONIC fully variable valve lift control, and Double-VANOS variable camshaft timing. The additional electric motor provides peak torque that is available from a stand-still in typical electric drive fashion. This has the effect of boosting the engine's output for instantaneous responsiveness and power build-up with no delay when accelerating from stationary, as well as far more dynamic performance whenever a quick burst of speed is required. Thanks to its duo of drive units, intelligent hybrid powertrain control and permanent all-wheel drive, the BMW 330e promises effortless performance and outstanding efficiency.

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Distinguishing Features
On the outside, the most noticeable feature distinguishing the 330e from other 3 Series models is the charging connection for the high-voltage battery located in the left front fender. At the start of the charging process, the connection glows blue to indicate the flow of energy. An "eDrive" logo is also on the C-Pillars, the door sills, and the center console beneath the gear selector lever.

The 330e features a flat trunk floor with full usability, and 40/20/40 fold-down rear seats as standard.

Configurable Powertrain Control (eDrive button)
In addition to the Driving Dynamics Control switch found in all 3 Series Sports Sedans, which can be used to alter throttle mapping, steering characteristics, and transmission responses, the eDrive button on the center console of the 330e lets the driver modify the powertrain control with three distinct modes:
  • AUTO eDrive (default setting) - both engine and electric motor working efficiently in tandem. The electric motor alone is used for accelerating from a stop under normal conditions, while the engine cuts in at around 45 mph or when the driver wishes to accelerate quickly. In this mode, the intelligent operating strategy determines the most efficient drive combination at all times and switches to it automatically.
  • MAX eDrive (all-electric driving mode) - the vehicle is powered solely by the electric motor. This mode is designed for comfortable driving with zero local emissions without the engine being started, and offers a maximum range of 20+ miles (to be confirmed) at a limited top speed of 75 mph.
  • SAVE Battery - allows the driver to save or build up the high-voltage battery's energy reserves for a later point in time. When driving on the highway, for instance, the state of charge can be kept constant or even boosted in order to use the high-voltage battery's power for all-electric driving in urban areas later in the journey. In this way, the stored electrical energy can be selectively deployed exactly when required.

The modes selectable with the eDrive button and the Driving Dynamics Control switch can be combined with one another at will, allowing the driver to precisely tailor the vehicle's behavior to their personal preferences.

Standard Equipment
The 330e standard equipment profile is based on 328i RWD with a few differences[/B]
  • 330e features Pre-Conditioning, which is not available on any other 3 Series model
  • The Extended Instrument Cluster (6WA), normally bundled with Navigation, is standard equipment
  • Remote Services (6AP), normally bundled with Navigation, is not available for 330e. Instead, PHEV Connected Drive +
  • Remote Services (6AG) is standard equipment
  • The 330e has a fuel door release button. As part of BMW's fuel system strategy, the 330e requires a pressurized fuel
  • tank. This pressure needs to be released prior to opening the fuel door
  • 8-Speed Sport Automatic Transmission with Shift Paddles (2TB) is not available; an 8-Speed Automatic Transmission
  • with Shift Paddles (2TE) is standard; the gear shift lever is slightly different:

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Optional Equipment
The 330e customer has the same Optional Equipment choices as a 328i RWD, with the exception of:
  • Track Handling Package (ZTR)
  • xDrive AWD
  • Adaptive M Suspension (2VF) upgrade within M Sport Package (ZMP)
  • 8-Speed Sport Automatic Transmission with Shift Paddles (2TB)

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That would be the perfect car for me. My drive to work is 1.5 miles.
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It started production in November?
Do we have pricing guides? (The link to pricing guides doesn’t seem to include the 330e.)
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That would be the perfect car for me. My drive to work is 1.5 miles.
you should walk.
there needs to be quite a bit of gas savings to get back 5K difference in price
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you should walk.
there needs to be quite a bit of gas savings to get back 5K difference in price
I'd love to walk or ride my bike but there are no sidewalks and the entire route is curves and hills. Too dangerous to walk and I'd be a sweaty mess on the bike most of the year. Been thinking about an electric bike though. Would be great for a little assist on the hills.

Commute aside, we can go pretty much anywhere in the city and back and be well under 22 miles. It wouldn't just be beneficial for the work commute.
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I'd love to walk or ride my bike but there are no sidewalks and the entire route is curves and hills. Too dangerous to walk and I'd be a sweaty mess on the bike most of the year. Been thinking about an electric bike though. Would be great for a little assist on the hills.

Commute aside, we can go pretty much anywhere in the city and back and be well under 22 miles. It wouldn't just be beneficial for the work commute.
that sucks, every time I leave NYC I find most of this country is lacking sidewalks. No wonder majority of people are overweight
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that sucks, every time I leave NYC I find most of this country is lacking sidewalks. No wonder majority of people are overweight
True. We get really spoiled when we go to Seattle and Chicago. Being able to walk or use public transportation to get everywhere is great.

I run 6 miles or so 3-4 times a week in my neighborhood with no sidewalks. Finish well before 7am though so not much traffic to worry about. Still wear reflective gear and blinking lights front and back.
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Not worth the extra $5.3k IMHO. Wonder what the break even point for the extra money would be as compared to a gas or diesel version mpg. Also as a RoT, NEVER buy the first year of production of any car, much less German ones.
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EV tax credits are tied to the size of the battery. If it does qualify, it won't qualify for the full $7500 amount, the battery just isn't big enough.
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"Thanks to its duo of drive units, intelligent hybrid powertrain control and permanent all-wheel drive, the BMW 330e promises effortless performance and outstanding efficiency."

This is the first I've read the 330e will be AWD. Shouldn't the model then be 330xe (like the 225xe)?

Anyone know if it will qualify for driver only CA carpool lane access?
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"Thanks to its duo of drive units, intelligent hybrid powertrain control and permanent all-wheel drive, the BMW 330e promises effortless performance and outstanding efficiency."

This is the first I've read the 330e will be AWD. Shouldn't the model then be 330xe (like the 225xe)?

Anyone know if it will qualify for driver only CA carpool lane access?
It probably will (because it would be a PZEV), but it you might have to time things right to get one because only a limited number are issued each year.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm
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If this is true, it is amazing. Makes me want to go out and get one.

"BMW quotes a combined fuel economy of 123 mpg U.S., though that's a figure gleaned from the European cycle tests, and will undoubtedly be different for the U.S. market if it were to actually come here."

Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/frankfur...#ixzz3sXa8JWGo
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More horsepower and more torque but slower acceleration to 60? These numbers suggest more weight.
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Up to 75 on electric, that's real good.
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It sounds like a cool car. But I was so disappointed by the bmw display at LA yesturday. They had half the space of audi or merc, they didn't even have a single 2 or 5 series on display. And the new 7 was kind of shoved in a corner. Compared to everybody else the BMW booth was a ghost town
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More horsepower and more torque but slower acceleration to 60? These numbers suggest more weight.
Of course there is more weight, there is a second motor and much more battery. All hybrids weigh more than their standard counterpart
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They had a 5 there. It was a 550i. Still, this isn't BMW's year for new metal.

I went on Monday morning and it felt like a casino at 5am -- in full operation but very quiet. My disappointment was Porsche -- not a single unlocked car -- and Audi -- for not having the new A4 on display. It was nice to see Jaguar's XE, and some interesting stuff from other manufacturers in the South Hall. I drove the VW Golf e. I'm still impressed with the new Golf 7 chassis, despite VW's woes.


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It sounds like a cool car. But I was so disappointed by the bmw display at LA yesturday. They had half the space of audi or merc, they didn't even have a single 2 or 5 series on display. And the new 7 was kind of shoved in a corner. Compared to everybody else the BMW booth was a ghost town
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They had a 5 there. It was a 550i. Still, this isn't BMW's year for new metal.

I went on Monday morning and it felt like a casino at 5am -- in full operation but very quiet. My disappointment was Porsche -- not a single unlocked car -- and Audi -- for not having the new A4 on display. It was nice to see Jaguar's XE, and some interesting stuff from other manufacturers in the South Hall. I drove the VW Golf e. I'm still impressed with the new Golf 7 chassis, despite VW's woes.
How did the new XE look in person? I can't wait to test drive one.
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More horsepower and more torque but slower acceleration to 60? These numbers suggest more weight.
A great deal more weight, unfortunately, with the commensurate decrease in handling proficiency.

But at some point the weight of batteries will sufficiently decrease to not result in a performance penalty. In the meantime, manufacturers will keep trying to hit the sweet spot were consumers are pleased enough with the technology and the concept that they are willing to accept the disadvantageous.
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A little odd -- particularly the interior. There's this weird way the dash juts into the door panel. The rear seats are hard to get into without banging your head on the door frame. The exterior seemed really unremarkable as well.
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Umm, isn't pre-conditioning the remote app tun on the AC feature? I thought this was in other models, no?
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The all new BMW 330e eDrive - Starting at $43,700

The BMW space yesterday was packed with people testing the various 3, X models and the cool motorcycle where everyone wanted a picture mounted.

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Our remote app only turns on the fan, not the a/c.

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