The all new BMW 330e eDrive - Starting at $43,700

by Tim Jones on November 24, 2015, 2:22 pm
BMW 330e eDrive

The all new 2016 BMW 330e eDrive - Starting at $43,700

The BMW 330e represents the next evolution of the beloved and iconic BMW 3 Series. Combining BMW's award-winning 2.0 liter 4-cylinder engine with a lithium-ion powered electric motor, the 330e delivers the legendary power you expect from a BMW with groundbreaking fuel efficiency: combined output of 248 hp and 310 lb-ft of torque that propels the 330e from 0-60 in just 5.9 seconds.

The 330e made its US debut at the 2015 Los Angeles Auto Show. It starts production in November 2015 and will arrive in showrooms during the first quarter of 2016. Pricing starts at $43,700 + $995 D&H.

BMW 330e eDrive powertrain

The first ever BMW 330e Highlights
BMW 330e vs 328i

Intelligent efficiency
BMW EfficientDynamics eDrive technology promises exceptionally efficient performance as well as the potential for all-electric mobility with zero tailpipe emissions, ushering in a whole new form of driving experience in a Sports Sedan. An array of innovative technologies ensures you get from point A to B as efficiently as possible. Intelligent Route Planning, for example, analyzes your route, and uses data from the BMW Navigation System to seamlessly switch to all-electric at low speeds, providing a nearly silent, zero-emission drive.

Powertrain
The 330e combines BMW's award-winning 2.0-liter TwinPower Turbo 4-cylinder engine with an electric motor, powered by a lithium-ion battery, integrated into its 8-speed automatic transmission. The 2.0-liter 4-cylinder engine generates a maximum output of 180 hp and 215 lb-ft of peak torque and features a TwinScroll turbocharger, High Precision Injection, VALVETRONIC fully variable valve lift control, and Double-VANOS variable camshaft timing. The additional electric motor provides peak torque that is available from a stand-still in typical electric drive fashion. This has the effect of boosting the engine's output for instantaneous responsiveness and power build-up with no delay when accelerating from stationary, as well as far more dynamic performance whenever a quick burst of speed is required. Thanks to its duo of drive units, intelligent hybrid powertrain control and permanent all-wheel drive, the BMW 330e promises effortless performance and outstanding efficiency.

BMW B46 Engine Technical Details

2016 BMW 330e

Distinguishing Features
On the outside, the most noticeable feature distinguishing the 330e from other 3 Series models is the charging connection for the high-voltage battery located in the left front fender. At the start of the charging process, the connection glows blue to indicate the flow of energy. An "eDrive" logo is also on the C-Pillars, the door sills, and the center console beneath the gear selector lever.

The 330e features a flat trunk floor with full usability, and 40/20/40 fold-down rear seats as standard.

Configurable Powertrain Control (eDrive button)
In addition to the Driving Dynamics Control switch found in all 3 Series Sports Sedans, which can be used to alter throttle mapping, steering characteristics, and transmission responses, the eDrive button on the center console of the 330e lets the driver modify the powertrain control with three distinct modes:
  • AUTO eDrive (default setting) - both engine and electric motor working efficiently in tandem. The electric motor alone is used for accelerating from a stop under normal conditions, while the engine cuts in at around 45 mph or when the driver wishes to accelerate quickly. In this mode, the intelligent operating strategy determines the most efficient drive combination at all times and switches to it automatically.
  • MAX eDrive (all-electric driving mode) - the vehicle is powered solely by the electric motor. This mode is designed for comfortable driving with zero local emissions without the engine being started, and offers a maximum range of 20+ miles (to be confirmed) at a limited top speed of 75 mph.
  • SAVE Battery - allows the driver to save or build up the high-voltage battery's energy reserves for a later point in time. When driving on the highway, for instance, the state of charge can be kept constant or even boosted in order to use the high-voltage battery's power for all-electric driving in urban areas later in the journey. In this way, the stored electrical energy can be selectively deployed exactly when required.

The modes selectable with the eDrive button and the Driving Dynamics Control switch can be combined with one another at will, allowing the driver to precisely tailor the vehicle's behavior to their personal preferences.

Standard Equipment
The 330e standard equipment profile is based on 328i RWD with a few differences[/B]
  • 330e features Pre-Conditioning, which is not available on any other 3 Series model
  • The Extended Instrument Cluster (6WA), normally bundled with Navigation, is standard equipment
  • Remote Services (6AP), normally bundled with Navigation, is not available for 330e. Instead, PHEV Connected Drive +
  • Remote Services (6AG) is standard equipment
  • The 330e has a fuel door release button. As part of BMW's fuel system strategy, the 330e requires a pressurized fuel
  • tank. This pressure needs to be released prior to opening the fuel door
  • 8-Speed Sport Automatic Transmission with Shift Paddles (2TB) is not available; an 8-Speed Automatic Transmission
  • with Shift Paddles (2TE) is standard; the gear shift lever is slightly different:

2016 BMW 3 Series Pricing and Ordering guides



Optional Equipment
The 330e customer has the same Optional Equipment choices as a 328i RWD, with the exception of:
  • Track Handling Package (ZTR)
  • xDrive AWD
  • Adaptive M Suspension (2VF) upgrade within M Sport Package (ZMP)
  • 8-Speed Sport Automatic Transmission with Shift Paddles (2TB)

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56 responses to The all new BMW 330e eDrive - Starting at $43,700

428iAR commented:
November 24, 2015, 2:36 pm

That would be the perfect car for me. My drive to work is 1.5 miles.
John Casey commented:
November 24, 2015, 3:56 pm

It started production in November?
Do we have pricing guides? (The link to pricing guides doesn’t seem to include the 330e.)
PK2348 commented:
November 24, 2015, 4:25 pm

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Originally Posted by 428iAR View Post
That would be the perfect car for me. My drive to work is 1.5 miles.
you should walk.
there needs to be quite a bit of gas savings to get back 5K difference in price
428iAR commented:
November 24, 2015, 4:49 pm

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Originally Posted by PK2348 View Post
you should walk.
there needs to be quite a bit of gas savings to get back 5K difference in price
I'd love to walk or ride my bike but there are no sidewalks and the entire route is curves and hills. Too dangerous to walk and I'd be a sweaty mess on the bike most of the year. Been thinking about an electric bike though. Would be great for a little assist on the hills.

Commute aside, we can go pretty much anywhere in the city and back and be well under 22 miles. It wouldn't just be beneficial for the work commute.
PK2348 commented:
November 24, 2015, 5:04 pm

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Originally Posted by 428iAR View Post
I'd love to walk or ride my bike but there are no sidewalks and the entire route is curves and hills. Too dangerous to walk and I'd be a sweaty mess on the bike most of the year. Been thinking about an electric bike though. Would be great for a little assist on the hills.

Commute aside, we can go pretty much anywhere in the city and back and be well under 22 miles. It wouldn't just be beneficial for the work commute.
that sucks, every time I leave NYC I find most of this country is lacking sidewalks. No wonder majority of people are overweight
428iAR commented:
November 24, 2015, 5:52 pm

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Originally Posted by PK2348 View Post
that sucks, every time I leave NYC I find most of this country is lacking sidewalks. No wonder majority of people are overweight
True. We get really spoiled when we go to Seattle and Chicago. Being able to walk or use public transportation to get everywhere is great.

I run 6 miles or so 3-4 times a week in my neighborhood with no sidewalks. Finish well before 7am though so not much traffic to worry about. Still wear reflective gear and blinking lights front and back.
like2ace commented:
November 24, 2015, 7:56 pm

Not worth the extra $5.3k IMHO. Wonder what the break even point for the extra money would be as compared to a gas or diesel version mpg. Also as a RoT, NEVER buy the first year of production of any car, much less German ones.
sjpaul commented:
November 24, 2015, 9:59 pm

Does the 330e qualify for a federal tax credit?


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jadnashuanh commented:
November 24, 2015, 10:43 pm

EV tax credits are tied to the size of the battery. If it does qualify, it won't qualify for the full $7500 amount, the battery just isn't big enough.
davidsf commented:
November 25, 2015, 12:51 am

"Thanks to its duo of drive units, intelligent hybrid powertrain control and permanent all-wheel drive, the BMW 330e promises effortless performance and outstanding efficiency."

This is the first I've read the 330e will be AWD. Shouldn't the model then be 330xe (like the 225xe)?

Anyone know if it will qualify for driver only CA carpool lane access?
mr_clueless commented:
November 25, 2015, 4:20 pm

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Originally Posted by davidsf View Post
"Thanks to its duo of drive units, intelligent hybrid powertrain control and permanent all-wheel drive, the BMW 330e promises effortless performance and outstanding efficiency."

This is the first I've read the 330e will be AWD. Shouldn't the model then be 330xe (like the 225xe)?

Anyone know if it will qualify for driver only CA carpool lane access?
It probably will (because it would be a PZEV), but it you might have to time things right to get one because only a limited number are issued each year.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm
mr_clueless commented:
November 25, 2015, 4:23 pm

If this is true, it is amazing. Makes me want to go out and get one.

"BMW quotes a combined fuel economy of 123 mpg U.S., though that's a figure gleaned from the European cycle tests, and will undoubtedly be different for the U.S. market if it were to actually come here."

Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/frankfur...#ixzz3sXa8JWGo
After Hours commented:
November 25, 2015, 11:39 pm

More horsepower and more torque but slower acceleration to 60? These numbers suggest more weight.
JamesNoBrakes commented:
November 26, 2015, 10:03 am

Up to 75 on electric, that's real good.
Hangman4358 commented:
November 26, 2015, 3:02 pm

It sounds like a cool car. But I was so disappointed by the bmw display at LA yesturday. They had half the space of audi or merc, they didn't even have a single 2 or 5 series on display. And the new 7 was kind of shoved in a corner. Compared to everybody else the BMW booth was a ghost town
badreligion702 commented:
November 26, 2015, 3:10 pm

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Originally Posted by After Hours View Post
More horsepower and more torque but slower acceleration to 60? These numbers suggest more weight.
Of course there is more weight, there is a second motor and much more battery. All hybrids weigh more than their standard counterpart
tim330i commented:
November 26, 2015, 6:36 pm

Pricing and ordering guides have been added to the first post!
Robert A commented:
November 26, 2015, 6:47 pm

They had a 5 there. It was a 550i. Still, this isn't BMW's year for new metal.

I went on Monday morning and it felt like a casino at 5am -- in full operation but very quiet. My disappointment was Porsche -- not a single unlocked car -- and Audi -- for not having the new A4 on display. It was nice to see Jaguar's XE, and some interesting stuff from other manufacturers in the South Hall. I drove the VW Golf e. I'm still impressed with the new Golf 7 chassis, despite VW's woes.


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Originally Posted by Hangman4358 View Post
It sounds like a cool car. But I was so disappointed by the bmw display at LA yesturday. They had half the space of audi or merc, they didn't even have a single 2 or 5 series on display. And the new 7 was kind of shoved in a corner. Compared to everybody else the BMW booth was a ghost town
badreligion702 commented:
November 26, 2015, 10:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Robert A View Post
They had a 5 there. It was a 550i. Still, this isn't BMW's year for new metal.

I went on Monday morning and it felt like a casino at 5am -- in full operation but very quiet. My disappointment was Porsche -- not a single unlocked car -- and Audi -- for not having the new A4 on display. It was nice to see Jaguar's XE, and some interesting stuff from other manufacturers in the South Hall. I drove the VW Golf e. I'm still impressed with the new Golf 7 chassis, despite VW's woes.
How did the new XE look in person? I can't wait to test drive one.
Elk commented:
November 26, 2015, 11:28 pm

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Originally Posted by After Hours View Post
More horsepower and more torque but slower acceleration to 60? These numbers suggest more weight.
A great deal more weight, unfortunately, with the commensurate decrease in handling proficiency.

But at some point the weight of batteries will sufficiently decrease to not result in a performance penalty. In the meantime, manufacturers will keep trying to hit the sweet spot were consumers are pleased enough with the technology and the concept that they are willing to accept the disadvantageous.
Robert A commented:
November 27, 2015, 1:29 am

A little odd -- particularly the interior. There's this weird way the dash juts into the door panel. The rear seats are hard to get into without banging your head on the door frame. The exterior seemed really unremarkable as well.
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Originally Posted by badreligion702 View Post
How did the new XE look in person? I can't wait to test drive one.
Brian R. commented:
November 27, 2015, 2:12 pm

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330e features Pre-Conditioning, which is not available on any other 3 Series model
Umm, isn't pre-conditioning the remote app tun on the AC feature? I thought this was in other models, no?
like2ace commented:
November 28, 2015, 11:51 am

The BMW space yesterday was packed with people testing the various 3, X models and the cool motorcycle where everyone wanted a picture mounted.
Robert A commented:
November 28, 2015, 12:03 pm

Our remote app only turns on the fan, not the a/c.

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Originally Posted by Brian R. View Post
Umm, isn't pre-conditioning the remote app tun on the AC feature? I thought this was in other models, no?
chiefneil commented:
November 28, 2015, 12:19 pm

I like the idea of this car in theory, but it seems like you'd need $5/gal gas to make it worth the extra cost.
Jamolay commented:
November 28, 2015, 12:42 pm

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Originally Posted by chiefneil View Post
I like the idea of this car in theory, but it seems like you'd need $5/gal gas to make it worth the extra cost.

I would argue that one does not buy an electric or hybrid car, or diesel for that matter, to save money. You do it because you can afford to buy a car that pollutes a bit less for what you get.
That is part of the problem with alternative fuel vehicles at this point in time. The target market is problematic. Cars aren't generally cost effective and you target a very specific demographic.
It really won't make much impact, environmentally, until good, efficient cars are affordable for the average car buyer. But we have to start somewhere!
Robert A commented:
November 28, 2015, 1:49 pm

This is correct. A lot of folks bought Priuses for altruistic reasons, realizing that they were spending significantly more than a similar gas-only vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Jamolay View Post
I would argue that one does not buy an electric or hybrid car, or diesel for that matter, to save money. You do it because you can afford to buy a car that pollutes a bit less for what you get.
That is part of the problem with alternative fuel vehicles at this point in time. The target market is problematic. Cars aren't generally cost effective and you target a very specific demographic.
It really won't make much impact, environmentally, until good, efficient cars are affordable for the average car buyer. But we have to start somewhere!
181562 commented:
November 28, 2015, 2:24 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamolay View Post
I would argue that one does not buy an electric or hybrid car, or diesel for that matter, to save money. You do it because you can afford to buy a car that pollutes a bit less for what you get.
That is part of the problem with alternative fuel vehicles at this point in time. The target market is problematic. Cars aren't generally cost effective and you target a very specific demographic.
It really won't make much impact, environmentally, until good, efficient cars are affordable for the average car buyer. But we have to start somewhere!
The Prius is a great, cost effective car for those wanting to save money on fuel costs.
chiefneil commented:
November 28, 2015, 5:19 pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamolay View Post
I would argue that one does not buy an electric or hybrid car, or diesel for that matter, to save money. You do it because you can afford to buy a car that pollutes a bit less for what you get.
That is part of the problem with alternative fuel vehicles at this point in time. The target market is problematic. Cars aren't generally cost effective and you target a very specific demographic.
It really won't make much impact, environmentally, until good, efficient cars are affordable for the average car buyer. But we have to start somewhere!
Oh I agree in theory, but as you said it's problematic especially at that price range. In the 38-43k range people are already fretting over saving money on features. Should I get nav? Is m-sport worth the extra money? Should I get leather? Should I upgrade to LED lights?

Then you consider that getting the e-drive version costs about as much as all of those features combined.... Or I could buy the 38k car and give 5k to my favorite charity, feed some starving kids or shelter homeless families or some such thing.

The spike and dive of gas prices in the last few years really exposed how sensitive car-buying patterns are to gas prices. Sales of hybrids took off when gas was expensive, but now that gas is cheap again hybrids are down and SUVs and muscle cars are up.

I think what needs to happen is for the regular gasoline version to be replaced entirely by the hybrid version. Which I suppose will hapen as the 54 mpg CAFE limit looms large in 2025.
Jamolay commented:
November 28, 2015, 7:24 pm

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Originally Posted by chiefneil View Post
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The spike and dive of gas prices in the last few years really exposed how sensitive car-buying patterns are to gas prices. Sales of hybrids took off when gas was expensive, but now that gas is cheap again hybrids are down and SUVs and muscle cars are up.



I think what needs to happen is for the regular gasoline version to be replaced entirely by the hybrid version. Which I suppose will hapen as the 54 mpg CAFE limit looms large in 2025.

Absolutely, the price of gas is not helping the sale of alternative energy vehicles. From an environmentalist standpoint, cheap gas is a disaster. Regulations will help, but cheap gas screws us all.
Robert A commented:
November 28, 2015, 7:30 pm

What's needed is a realignment of tax incentives to fix these issues. Gas guzzling SUVs have almost no depreciation limits. Fuel efficient cars and hybrids are categorized the same as a Rolls. SUVs should lose their special tax status and vehicles should be categorized based on some consumption, CO2 or pollution standard.

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Originally Posted by chiefneil View Post
Oh I agree in theory, but as you said it's problematic especially at that price range. In the 38-43k range people are already fretting over saving money on features. Should I get nav? Is m-sport worth the extra money? Should I get leather? Should I upgrade to LED lights?

Then you consider that getting the e-drive version costs about as much as all of those features combined.... Or I could buy the 38k car and give 5k to my favorite charity, feed some starving kids or shelter homeless families or some such thing.

The spike and dive of gas prices in the last few years really exposed how sensitive car-buying patterns are to gas prices. Sales of hybrids took off when gas was expensive, but now that gas is cheap again hybrids are down and SUVs and muscle cars are up.

I think what needs to happen is for the regular gasoline version to be replaced entirely by the hybrid version. Which I suppose will hapen as the 54 mpg CAFE limit looms large in 2025.
brosher commented:
November 28, 2015, 10:58 pm

Will it be available for ED?
davidsf commented:
December 1, 2015, 12:45 am

Don't forget the convenience factor...with my "commute" (to a bus stop) I would probably need to go to a gas station once a month. Also the time savings being able to use the carpool lane by myself on those days I wanted to drive to work is significant. I think if it supported CarPlay I would buy it. Alas, I will have to wait until the next year (hopefully).
Mattt commented:
December 1, 2015, 12:29 pm

I currently own a 2015 328D. The mileage on the diesel beats the 330e. I do realize the overall performance 0-60 is a little better and the torque is a little higher (not by much). Just trying to figure out where the 330e comes to play in between a 328i and 328d? With the base model at $43,700 that over $3000 more than the premium paid on the 328d. I know the vehicle will probably do better over the 328d in the U.S. unfortunately. As you can tell I am partial to the diesel.
Robert A commented:
December 1, 2015, 12:44 pm

Where are you getting mileage information on the 330e?
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Originally Posted by Mattt View Post
I currently own a 2015 328D. The mileage on the diesel beats the 330e. I do realize the overall performance 0-60 is a little better and the torque is a little higher (not by much). Just trying to figure out where the 330e comes to play in between a 328i and 328d? With the base model at $43,700 that over $3000 more than the premium paid on the 328d. I know the vehicle will probably do better over the 328d in the U.S. unfortunately. As you can tell I am partial to the diesel.
Mattt commented:
December 1, 2015, 1:04 pm

Ok, the mileage figures I had read were estimates based on someone's personal knowledge in an article I read. To my knowledge no final MPG numbers have been released. I can just personally testify while on the highway I am able to go 622 miles on a tank of diesel.
kimluk commented:
December 1, 2015, 5:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Mattt View Post
I currently own a 2015 328D. The mileage on the diesel beats the 330e. I do realize the overall performance 0-60 is a little better and the torque is a little higher (not by much). Just trying to figure out where the 330e comes to play in between a 328i and 328d? With the base model at $43,700 that over $3000 more than the premium paid on the 328d. I know the vehicle will probably do better over the 328d in the U.S. unfortunately. As you can tell I am partial to the diesel.
I just retired a couple months ago. I usually drive less than 25 to 30 miles a day and occasionally take some long trips. With 330e, i can use the pure electric mode most of the time and maybe gas it up once every two to three months. I have not seen any review on the 330e's driving dynamic but my guess is it will be very similar to 328i, better in the city speed but not as good in the highway speed. I currently drive a Fiat 500e and I love the initial acceleration in the city range. With Federal and state incentives, I think 330e is good alternative for people who doesn't drive more than 30 miles each day. I am going to see my CA this afternoon to find out more about ordering it.
Mungo So Cal commented:
December 1, 2015, 6:18 pm

What are the fed and state (CA) incentives that have been referred to? Notwithstanding any of those, with the price of gas what it is I suspect after the initial sales these will be significantly discounted in much the same way as the Activehybrid models were. It just doesn't seem terribly compelling at the price point (pending fed and state incentives of course).
kimluk commented:
December 1, 2015, 8:24 pm

Just met with my CA. If the lease is longer than 30 months, I will get federal incentive of $4007 and the CA rebate of $1500. He don't have the MF and the residual value for 2016 330e yet. I have to wait a few more to find out the monthly payment. Stay tune.
Mungo So Cal commented:
December 1, 2015, 10:25 pm

Ok, those are pretty significant incentives / rebates. I assume there will be a CCA rebate as well.
davidsf commented:
December 3, 2015, 1:20 am

"Just met with my CA. If the lease is longer than 30 months, I will get federal incentive of $4007 and the CA rebate of $1500."

What if I buy? Is it the same incentive/rebate? And what does it mean, $4007 deduction from federal taxes and $1500 deduction from CA taxes? Thanks.
kimluk commented:
December 3, 2015, 2:03 am

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Originally Posted by davidsf View Post
"Just met with my CA. If the lease is longer than 30 months, I will get federal incentive of $4007 and the CA rebate of $1500."

What if I buy? Is it the same incentive/rebate? And what does it mean, $4007 deduction from federal taxes and $1500 deduction from CA taxes? Thanks.
Yes, same incentive and rebate for purchase or lease.
Mungo So Cal commented:
December 3, 2015, 12:23 pm

In a purchase I think the fed subsidy is in the form of a tax credit on your taxes (vs a lease it shows up as a cap cost reduction to your lease, since BMW gets the tax credit), and the CA subsidy shows up as a pure cash rebate you apply for after getting the car (nothing to do with your taxes). Just as a point of reference, the i3 subsidy is $7500 fed and $2500 California.
Blax commented:
December 7, 2015, 4:10 pm

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Originally Posted by kimluk View Post
Just met with my CA. If the lease is longer than 30 months, I will get federal incentive of $4007 and the CA rebate of $1500. He don't have the MF and the residual value for 2016 330e yet. I have to wait a few more to find out the monthly payment. Stay tune.
Do we know when the lease payment notes will come in? Would love to order, but nervous of how BMW would treat the lease on this new model.
Eagle11 commented:
December 11, 2015, 6:49 am

So when will BMWUSA website show this car? Production started last month,
swchang commented:
December 11, 2015, 10:13 am

What about the 4 convertible? When does that get the phev treatment?
tim330i commented:
December 11, 2015, 12:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Eagle11 View Post
So when will BMWUSA website show this car? Production started last month,
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The 330e made its US debut at the 2015 Los Angeles Auto Show. It starts production in November 2015 and will arrive in showrooms during the first quarter of 2016. Pricing starts at $43,700 + $995 D&H.
BMW says Q1 it arrives in dealerships. I'm guessing that means March, so it won't be on BMWUSA.com until February.
Eagle11 commented:
December 11, 2015, 7:51 pm

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Originally Posted by tim330i View Post
BMW says Q1 it arrives in dealerships. I'm guessing that means March, so it won't be on BMWUSA.com until February.
Tim what I don't understand is, if the car is in production already then why is BMW waiting so long to load it onto their website, just like the M2, what are they waiting for.
tim330i commented:
December 11, 2015, 8:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Eagle11 View Post
Tim what I don't understand is, if the car is in production already then why is BMW waiting so long to load it onto their website, just like the M2, what are they waiting for.
BMWUSA is a sale tool. If they don't have the cars to sell then they're not going to list it on the site. Dealerships don't want customers asking about cars they don't have.
RavenKing commented:
December 15, 2015, 2:30 am

Interesting vehicle and I've been eagerly awaiting to an official announcement from BMW with regards to this, but after driving a Prius Plug In as my daily driver to and from work, I'm not so sure I want one of these things. I paid the higher price due to the ability to drive in the car pool lane. But the car pool is so screwed up that it makes no difference during rush hour. So it was a complete waste. Though the car turned out to not be as bad as I had feared and the mileage and charge gets better as the car gets older and worked in. I'm up to 17 miles on a single charge and I'm over 500 miles/tank and it usually fills after eight gallons.

I take the 210 in Los Angeles from San Dimas to Burbank for the bulk of my commute and I find the regular lanes to actually be better or about the same. Planning on trading in the PiP, but probably for a 328d, which is the car I had originally intended to buy in the first place.

Won't be buying the 330e unless the final incentives make it a deal to good to pass up.

Of course ideally I'd like a 440 GC when it comes out. :-)
tim330i commented:
February 26, 2016, 5:32 pm

We have a technical breakdown on the F30 BMW 330e for anyone interested in getting way into technical details of the 330e - https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=898889
manicottiK commented:
February 26, 2016, 8:49 pm

M Sport suspension is included with the M Sport package, but there appears to be no option to upgrade to the Adaptive M package (and there's no Track package for obvious reasons). Is this right?
cblandin commented:
February 28, 2016, 10:27 am

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Originally Posted by manicottiK View Post
M Sport suspension is included with the M Sport package, but there appears to be no option to upgrade to the Adaptive M package (and there's no Track package for obvious reasons). Is this right?
I saw that too. Definitely a bummer. I had hoped this car, like the AH3, could be optioned with all the M-Sport goodness, especially since BMW still touts its performance, but apparently not. I can only assume they thought Eco buyers don't care about this, or just didn't want to invest the extra dollars to rvamp the system given the additional weight.
Robert A commented:
February 28, 2016, 10:39 am

Is it possible the Adaptive M suspension consumes electrical power and that would reduce the car's range?

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Originally Posted by cblandin View Post
I saw that too. Definitely a bummer. I had hoped this car, like the AH3, could be optioned with all the M-Sport goodness, especially since BMW still touts its performance, but apparently not. I can only assume they thought Eco buyers don't care about this, or just didn't want to invest the extra dollars to rvamp the system given the additional weight.
namelessman commented:
February 28, 2016, 12:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Robert A View Post
Is it possible the Adaptive M suspension consumes electrical power and that would reduce the car's range?
That is a interesting point, what is the amp spec for the actuator based M adaptive dampers? My guess is the actuators/valves will burn less electricity than the magnetic dampers(no data though).
humpy999 commented:
April 26, 2016, 5:14 pm

The official answer from BMW is that the Adaptive gubbins would normally go where the battery sits so there isn't room for both.