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Here's what happened. Started up the car and the system started it's boot sequence. Got to the BMW screen and it rebooted itself. Did this a couple more times and then the screen remained blank. Control knob is now free spinning. I can hear the NAV DVD spinning on start up and then I hear it now and then, so it is getting power. I checked the fuse in the trunk - good. Checked the spare tire well - dry. Looked inside the white control box under the spare tire - clean. Pulled the CD/DVD/Radio unit from the dash and checked the connections and 20A fuse - all good and tight. I tried the 3-finger reboot - nothing. I can't get the discs to eject. Otherwise, the car is driving fine.

Anyone have any insight? I'm wondering if a failed DVD or CD drive could be mucking up the system - M-ASK or such. I'm a DIYer - rebuilt motors, transmissions, etc, so I'm not afraid to tear into anything if someone has any ideas. I dread having to take this into the dealer to get bent over for an analysis.

I have access to AllDataPro and looked throught the wiring diagrams, but I need some help with troubleshooting before I buy any replacement parts or dread, take it to the dealer.

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This happened to my 05 545i when i brpught it to the dealer they said the idrive failed. So when i got back in my car it was fine. It happened to me a few times but after driving for a while and turning the car off and on again it loaded back up.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Well, it's been about a week now that it's been dead, so I don't think it's going to come back. I originally thought it was a loose connection, but none were loose. BMW does do a good job on the connection interlocks - they're not coming loose on their own. Does anyone know a secret to forcing the CD and DVD to eject? I'm also getting the orange lights on the buttons and I can hear the DVD drive spinning intermittently, so I know it's getting power.
 

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Try pushing the volume button and the eject button for the CD and DVD all together at the same time. This is how I get my idrive to reset on the rare occasion that it freezes up on me.
 

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Took the car to an independent mechanic with a friend at a BMW shop and they diagnosed that the CCC needs to be replaced. I'm still not convinced, so I pulled the unit this past weekend.

Per AllData, here's what they say is one procedure to remove the CD and/or DVD:

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[NEW] Use the following procedure to try and remove the disc from the drive:

1. Turn the ignition on.

2. Press the rotary knob along with both drive eject buttons simultaneously.

3. Release the buttons. This will initiate a CCC reset.

4. Once the CCC starts to reset, press the eject buttons repeatedly to eject the discs.

5. If necessary, try this procedure several times.

I ended up disassembling the system and manually removed them (found this info after the fact.)

I'm planning on putting the system back in the car today to see if it miraculously fixes itself.
 

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Sorry about the bad news. I had a similar problem a few weeks ago. CCC was bad and had to be replaced. The Indy Shop used the Autologic Computer to update the software via connecting the fiber optic cable to the glove compartment's connector; took about 5-6 hours for update! "While" doing it, be sure to copy the old code (FSC?) to enable voice command feature!

Supposedly, the shop bought the CCC from the dealer for $850. They charged me $315 to install CCC, IBS, battery negative cable and a new battery. In your case, I hope it's just the CCC or something less expensive. Also check the MPM (?)under the spare tire to make sure it is not burnt!

Good luck!
 

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E60 iDRIVE CCC BLANK SCREEN ISSUE

Amazing there are not more posts on this common problem in last couple years. Surely more units have failed, as mine just did on 2005 545I with 140K. It started to go off, come back on for about three weeks, then finally gave it up and it has been blank and nothing related is working now for past two weeks. Will check for the usual problem areas mentioned, but what about replacing unit, is it always the same CCC issue, or is it a program update problem. I don't want to spend $150. for update only to be told by stealer that CCC is bad. Any added opinions in last few years?

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2004 BMW 530i iDrive failure

Hello dear BMW users
Visited dealer for a computer check paid $80 then they told me I need to replace the whole system unit including CID screen. Also the tech said the wires tested ok.
I recently found out a lot of thinks about my 2004 BMW 530i
The actual problem in CCC unit it self and why it's not working properly the CID unit (control information display) is not showing the data goes from BMW sign to a blank. I've been driving around on turned of CID unit for 4 month then noticed a radio is on more frequently then connected the CID unit screen and it worked for a little bit then the same issue over and over again! Read forums and decided to replace the batter. I did replace for a new battery paid $200
Connected the battery same problem. Had for the last hope by resetting the whole system even tho knowing it will erase my memory seat radio station all little basic things.. I didn't care much anymore so I did it!
Waited for a min or 2 then started the car same problem occurred i kept the car running and in 2 - 5 min it worked ok I turned it off then on it worked!!!
Finally I thought I resolved that problem. Next day I started the ca it worked until I drove to gas station then started the car and the same problem occurred a flashing screen.. After all my experience I bought CCC unit $400 then programmed $150 and it works fine.
Hopefully it will help all our BMW members.

Also one more thing I found out about new BMW aftermarket touchscreen navigation system you can install those and they work better you can see yourself on YouTube:

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Amazing there are not more posts on this common problem in last couple years. Surely more units have failed, as mine just did on 2005 545I with 140K. It started to go off, come back on for about three weeks, then finally gave it up and it has been blank and nothing related is working now for past two weeks. Will check for the usual problem areas mentioned, but what about replacing unit, is it always the same CCC issue, or is it a program update problem. I don't want to spend $150. for update only to be told by stealer that CCC is bad. Any added opinions in last few years?

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Follow up. Well, after much research, I found out what problem was. First off, if you don't have NAV, then you don't have a CCC unit, which is the case with mine. Pulled it out and it is a MASK unit for those interested.

OK, checked the wiring diagram, checked voltages and all fuses, and I discovered there was no power to MASK for the cooling fan was not working, nor was there power to CD, so here is where to look for problem, in your trunk under spare tire you will fins a MPM module which evidently shorts out if water gets into your lower spare tire well. Poor design for sure, so it is recommended to relocate these modules to top of foam insert or in side panel compartments, your choice, but get them out of the well.

OK, with that said, mine was not wet, but the MPM did short out for there was no 12VDC coming out of unit, but there was 12VDC going into unit and fuse was fine in trunk, so I replaced MPM and bingo, iDrive came back up and it has been fine ever since. Of course, as I have learned, if you don't have NAV, then you have MASK, and if you have NAV, you have CCC which will not have MPM. It appears CCC is culprit in almost all cases if reprogramming doesn't work.

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I took my 2005 BMW 530 I to the dealer to check why the radio and the Idrive not working, I was told that I have to replace the Radio ($1200) from the dealer. I was thinking to Buy used one, Does anyone know if the Radio needs to be programmed before I install it. I don't have Nav.

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If you have any luck let me know. i was told it would have to be reprogrammed for the new car. Looking to get one from somewhere but I want on with Bluetooth radio capability from my phone. Not sure if I'm going to do the aftermarket thing or not.
 

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I took my 2005 BMW 530 I to the dealer to check why the radio and the Idrive not working, I was told that I have to replace the Radio ($1200) from the dealer. I was thinking to Buy used one, Does anyone know if the Radio needs to be programmed before I install it. I don't have Nav.

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Personally, after my experience with dealer, they will all rip you off, simple as I can say it. I too was told radio was bad and needed to be replaced. Well, I wasn't about to spend $1200. without further research, and here is what I found, radio is not the problem in most cases. There is a module located in trunk which is exposed to moisture if your sunroof drain gets plugged, a commone problem, so look for any sign of moisture first and foremost, and if your vehicle did not get service report to relocate this module from bottom of tire well to a higher location in trunk, then you probably have a bad MPM module, a small 5X2X3 inch black box about the size of a pack of cigarettes. In my case, I took electronics out of box, and sure enough, I could detect older water damage on one edge, but it had to have been years before and module actually shorted out for there were no signs of any residual moisture. So check this out before you get hosed by dealer. Also, if you do not want to take out module and replace it, cost about $100. unless you can find a used one, and no re-programming is required, change this first, and also check fuses, both in rear right side fuse panel and in glove box as there were two fuses for radio and Idrive. And if you do go to dealer, put a small mark on the MPM module to see if they change this out, and not your radio, but charge you for new radio. As to need to repragram if you were to replace radio, I don't believe this is required unless you had NAV which you do need to reprogram at dealer.

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Personally, after my experience with dealer, they will all rip you off, simple as I can say it. I too was told radio was bad and needed to be replaced.

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Thanks for the followup.
 

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I have 2004 BMW 530i no nav I have replaced the mpm the battery and my idrive is still blank.. I am lost on what to do next. I brought the mpm from the dealer. My screen comes on with just color lines vertical help please
 

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CCC part

this happened to my 06 325xi, does anyone know the part number for this and if any other model BMW CCC unit would work with my 06 325xi with nav.
 

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I'm new to the BMW crowd so I turn to this site often but just registered. My dash screen, radio, and door chime all just flickered and stopped yesterday. I punched the symptoms in Google which lead me to this thread. Ironically, a few days back a had a big box full of ice and food in my trunk that leaked. So after reading pull everything out and there is an inch or so of water around the well. The MPM was full of water and corrosion. I happen to have an 06 528i in my shop that is wrecked. I switched them out and all well. Cost to me $0. I have been around VW's my whole life and have seen some crazy ideas for placing things, but that's just plain dumb. It has a two foot harness on it and could have went just about anywhere and been better....

Thanks again for the spot on advice
 

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I'm new to the BMW crowd so I turn to this site often but just registered. My dash screen, radio, and door chime all just flickered and stopped yesterday. I punched the symptoms in Google which lead me to this thread. Ironically, a few days back a had a big box full of ice and food in my trunk that leaked. So after reading pull everything out and there is an inch or so of water around the well. The MPM was full of water and corrosion. I happen to have an 06 528i in my shop that is wrecked. I switched them out and all well. Cost to me $0. I have been around VW's my whole life and have seen some crazy ideas for placing things, but that's just plain dumb. It has a two foot harness on it and could have went just about anywhere and been better....

Thanks again for the spot on advice
Agreed, crazy indeed to put any electronics at the bottom of wheel well. Mine got shorted out due to clogged sun roof drain which backed up in trunk area and poof, shorted out. You would think they would at least install in water tight box, that would have cost next to nothing to have sealed it in epoxy. Lucky you had one from wreck, they are costly, easy to change, but costly. BMW had put out callback to relocate module, but too little too late, on purpose I am sure for they said it was IO and would cost over a thousand dollars for rebuilt unit, rip offs, all of them.
 
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