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Hello all, I am helping my father buy a new car and I've been trying to push him into the BMW brand. His local dealer has a 2011 535i xdrive that he likes and I'm trying to help him come up with an offer for it. The car has an MSRP of 60,625, invoice of 55,785 and is equipped with premium package 2 and the cold weather package. I think a similarly equipped 2012 runs about 61,675 MSRP and 56,755 invoice (prem, tech, cold weather and premium sound).

With the 1000 mission to drive and 1730 nav credit, and 750 dealer profit, the 2012 would go for 54,775.

How much lower than this number would be a good offer to place on this vehicle?
 

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I bought a 2011 because there is no similarly equipped 2012 the way the packages changed.

To be able to ge the same options on my 2011 (~$61k MSRP), I would have to accept the new packages with options I did not want and the MSRP on a 2012 would have been around $64k.

BMW changed some options around for 2012 and you really cannot get the same thing as 2011 unless you spend more for packages that may contain options you don't want.

The dealers were stating they would give me a better deal on a 2012. Well not really. What they meant was I could spend more money and save more money. Not quite the same.

My advice is compare the stickers for both the 2011 and 2012, you will find you are giving some features up that require you to purchase more packages to get back.
 

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And i would pay more for 2012 just to avoid the Throttle delay issue with 2011
Hum throttle delay? Must have been an issue with the early 2010 builds. :dunno:

I don't have the issue so not sure what all the huff is about.

I know software adjustments usually come out after a new model. I don't think it matters between a 2011, 2012, ore ven 2013 since it is the same drivetrain and software.
 

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And i would pay more for 2012 just to avoid the Throttle delay issue with 2011
That's a matter of test-driving both 2011 and 2012 models and seeing if it has it AND if you even feel it (a lot of 2011 owners say they are not aware of it).

Start/Stop is there for 2012 and would personally drive me soooo nuts (and drive my engine nuts in the long term?), I would in all sincerity opt for 2011.
 

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You all know you can turn off the auto start-stop right ...... ?

As for the price, I just brought myself a 2011 535i MSRP $58, brought it for $49. Good enough deal for me. :)
 

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That's a matter of test-driving both 2011 and 2012 models and seeing if it has it AND if you even feel it (a lot of 2011 owners say they are not aware of it).

Start/Stop is there for 2012 and would personally drive me soooo nuts (and drive my engine nuts in the long term?), I would in all sincerity opt for 2011.
It doesn't effect the engine as it auto starts the car on hybrid kind technology so minimal wear.
 

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I just picked up a 2011 535i with an MSRP of $62,125 for $52,000 (after all applicable rebates). In terms of right offer for the car, there are a lot factors to consider but I would think that you need to be offering around 12-15% of MSRP, after all it is a 2011 and there is going to be a bigger depreciation hit than with the 2012's right now.
 
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