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2019-1 navigation maps

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#1 ·
Fwiw, I put off updating my maps and then took the plunge with 2018-2 but shortly after that, 2019-1 came out. Not to worry, the service I bought the FSC code from does a free upgrade within 45 days.

He is Andrew Miskell dracon@gmail.com

I had some trouble getting the usb drive to work but he gave great support debugging the problem.

For Mac users on High Sierra, I used the utility UnArchiver to extract the maps. And Carbon Copy Cloner to copy the files. Just using the Mac OS to copy files caused some invisible files to be created that iDrive didn't like. I also found it necessary to use a command line to remove the invisible files and directories manually after the copy completed. Anything that begins with a period has got to go. FYI

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#2 ·
I have an FSC code that should provide lifetime updates, but the site I purchased it from eventually got shutdown. I've had trouble finding a free place to download the maps. Anyone got a good link?

Anyone have them and willing to upload to a cloud? My download is fast, but upload is pathetic in comparison.
 
#16 ·
I have an FSC code that should provide lifetime updates....
Is it true that part of your vehicle***8217;s VIN numbers are part of the FSC code number?
 
#5 ·
The actual procedure is simple if you have any computer smarts...download the files, put them on a USB stick, insert into the car and follow the prompts. Takes less than an hour to install. Cost is not much if you do it yourself - typically, less than $50. Pay a dealership to do it, and it will cost you hundreds. Have no computer smarts...you can buy a USB drive with the maps already on it and just plug it in. Costs a bit more, but LOTS less than having the dealership do it. The files are huge, so unless you have a good internet connection, that may discourage you from downloading them.

THere are said to be 1 million or so updates to roads, businesses, etc. per year, so yes, updating the maps can be useful. How many businesses are in the same location and how many new ones have started up since 2011? Think of it sort of like trying to use a 7-year old phone book, if you still get one...might work, might not. One real pain is if they start to change streets to/from one-way. I don't know if the database used for the GT can utilize terrain data, but on my i3, it uses that to help choose a route so you might find going around a big hill takes less power from your battery than going the shorter route over it. Now, new hills don't usually magically appear (HI maybe an exception!), but their existence can make a difference.
 
#7 ·
I keep thinking I may do this, but I always plan our route out prior to leaving and look to our phones when we fancy a change from the original plan. How close is it to google's maps with respect to dining and other features?

I hate to tell you guys what version we have, lol!
 
#9 ·
I think the Golden Gate was in black and white. Off to the store to get some flash drives to see if my EBay purchase is legit! I feel like Steve Martin in Pink Panther right now: I think I got a pretty good deal.

Although, if I leave it maybe in 15 years the car will be worth more because it is original Nav Map? Kinda like having the original Pac Man...or discovering the Dead Sea Scrolls. Rofl.
 
#10 · (Edited)
In 15-years, think of all those seaside roads that will be under water much of the time?! The maps won't be all that useful, but a history lesson, I suppose...

The current administration saw fit to revoke the regulation that required roads repaired as the result of erosion during a storm to be rebuilt (with federal money for the most part) with higher sea levels in mind. Maybe his mob friends needed the future work to do it over and over again. Now, they can put it back exactly like it was when it failed with no consideration for the future.
 
#11 ·
Yeah, ok Al Gore. Better convince everyone move away from the coast so you can buy a chateau by the sea on the cheap.

Back to the topic...successfully upgraded maps to 2018-1 for CIC. FWIW, skipped 9 years: maybe I can claim I have a time machine?
 
#15 ·
If you have a USB drive big enough, a computer to download and copy files, and can read, the update process is pretty simple...download the files, extract them, copy them onto the drive, put the drive in the USB port in the glove box, follow the prompts to enter the FSC code (if required), and wait. On some, you need to do it in stages, like swapping disks, and the instructions will tell you which files to place on the drive for each stage. Depending on your download speed to get the files, that part can take awhile as they're nearly 30g. You can do this while driving, if you want so you aren't just sitting there waiting while installing. It typically takes less than an hour to get it into the car. It swaps the new files in only after the whole package is there, so you can continue to use the nav system while it's downloading things if you want.

I'd still like a link to the files, if someone has it, and I don't need an FSC code.
 
#18 ·
Putting the maps on a usb is more than download and copy. The maps come in 4 separate rar files that require a utility to unpackaged them and assemble them into the proper folder structure. Then you can copy to usb drive. However iDrive is not smart enough to deal with usb drives formatted in Fat32 but on Macintosh computers. The mentality is sooo 1995. If you use a Mac, you have to cleanup some of the hidden files the Mac uses. Otherwise iDrive will complain its not a valid usb drive.


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#21 ·
I think after using BMWs Nav system I will let it die a slow and painfull death. What a terrible system. I now set the Nav to destination- but I also run Waze on my phone which sits in a wireless charging cradle attached to center vent. After missing my exit twice in MN dropping my son off for College ( map would not show exit until it was too late) I keep Waze running as backup.
 
#22 ·
The days of needing BMW NAV are over, which is why it will be bundled into a more expensive tech package. Waze is so much better, particularly with real time police alerts (although I have to remind myself that not seeing a police icon doesn't mean there isn't one there!). I also run Waze on my cell phone rather than use BMW Nav, but whenever I get a newer loaner car with Apple Play and Waze, it's very nice to see it integrated into the screen.
 
#23 ·
Since doing an update last year I've noticed the late alerts as well. It will say "prepare to turn right" and as you are driving through an intersection at 30 mph it says "turn right".
Waze is great especially up here in the land where radar detectors are illegal. On busy highways where there are a lot of Wazers, it's pretty dependable.
 
#25 ·
I picked my car up in Germany. The nav was very accurate as to when curves started and stopped as evidenced by the arrow when a route was enabled along with the car's position on the map versus the real world.

When I picked it back up in the USA, I noticed that it was less accurate.

I asked BMW USA if they might not have the map data and the datum matching. I've seen this kind of error when that is not accounted for. FWIW, the earth is not a perfect sphere, and to account for that, different maps will be drawn with various 'corrections' that relate to a datum. While there are some world-wide datums, often, a local one will be more accurate for a specific area, but as long as the map and datum it's drawn to match, the gps signal can be compensated for, and positional accuracy can be quite high. A decent WASS enabled gps should be accurate most of the time to a couple of meters or less. Draw your map with one, but tell the gps to use another, and your position on the map often doesn't coincide.

They never answered my question.
 
#27 ·
FWIW, for anyone that might still be using paper or even electronic maps and a hand-held gps, set your GPS to the same datum as will be listed on the maps. Having the wrong one could have you as much as a couple of kilometers off from your actual position. There's no way that I've found that shows what datum is programmed into the car's navigation system, or what datum (and spheroid, if you're interested) was used to develop the maps.

WHat I can tell you is that the accuracy in Germany with those maps installed is better than that in the USA, and that's without the benefit of WAAS enhancements...the arrow moved at the start of a curve and returned to straight at the end...here, it never seems to do that properly, and the actual distance to a turn is always overestimating the span.

This could change in other parts of the country, but I've only taken my car about 1K south and west of my home, not out west or the deep south.
 
#28 · (Edited)
I went ahead and bit the bullet and paid $20 on eBay for my X5's FSC code and the 2019-1 Road Map Europe West Premium.
The map guidance seems a lot quicker and accurate. No more hesitation with verbal directions (tells me to turn after I pass the turn :mad:) like on the Stateside road maps.
 

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#29 ·
Has anyone been able to buy codes from Andrew Miskell? I have bought from him in the past and he recently sent out a notification of updated maps. But my emails have gone unanswered for weeks now. Anyone have an alternative?