335d / X5d: Oil Change Reminder Sheet for BMW Technicians & Service Advisors
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Hi Folks,
I've read a few disturbing threads on this forum about our dealers' lack of knowledge with our beloved M57 engine. It concerns me that our dealers aren't giving us the full 8 quarts that our engine requires. Furthermore, I'm even more concerned of the potential damage to our Particle Filter (DPF) if the regular petrol-based oil is used. Apparently, the "low-ash" formula in our oil is much more "friendly" to our engines.
That said, I thought it would useful to have a reminder for our BMW Technician and Service Advisors. So I drafted up this sheet that we can leave in our car when we drop it off for service.
Please let me know what you think.
-Ted
PS: Thanks to all of you who have contributed stories related to your oil change intervals at the dealerships.
Related threads on oil changes in the X5d and 335d:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458713
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=572295
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531192
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-for...y-changing-oil-filter-35d-new-pics-added.html
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=474952
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1851142
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1876571
http://www.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441334
If you want to a DIY oil change kit for your M57:
OEM BMW E90 LCI 335d Oil Change Kit
OEM BMW E90 LCI 335d Oil Change Kit includes 1 OEM BMW oil filter set that includes gaskets/washers, and 8 qts. of "low ash" synthetic Castrol SLX Professional OE SAE 5W-30 oil.
**Price includes Free Ground Shipping! (US only)
http://www.trademotion.com/partloca...fo&PartID=825583&siteid=214672&catalogid=4462
I've read a few disturbing threads on this forum about our dealers' lack of knowledge with our beloved M57 engine. It concerns me that our dealers aren't giving us the full 8 quarts that our engine requires. Furthermore, I'm even more concerned of the potential damage to our Particle Filter (DPF) if the regular petrol-based oil is used. Apparently, the "low-ash" formula in our oil is much more "friendly" to our engines.
That said, I thought it would useful to have a reminder for our BMW Technician and Service Advisors. So I drafted up this sheet that we can leave in our car when we drop it off for service.
Please let me know what you think.
-Ted
PS: Thanks to all of you who have contributed stories related to your oil change intervals at the dealerships.
Related threads on oil changes in the X5d and 335d:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458713
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=572295
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531192
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-for...y-changing-oil-filter-35d-new-pics-added.html
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=474952
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1851142
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1876571
http://www.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441334
If you want to a DIY oil change kit for your M57:
OEM BMW E90 LCI 335d Oil Change Kit
OEM BMW E90 LCI 335d Oil Change Kit includes 1 OEM BMW oil filter set that includes gaskets/washers, and 8 qts. of "low ash" synthetic Castrol SLX Professional OE SAE 5W-30 oil.
**Price includes Free Ground Shipping! (US only)
http://www.trademotion.com/partloca...fo&PartID=825583&siteid=214672&catalogid=4462
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Very informative, thanks. One caveat that popped into my mind - what if you complain to the server before they bring you your food, do they spit in it? I'm not sure if this is exactly the same, but would the tech working on the car take offense to being told how to do his/her job and then not treat your car as nicely? Maybe I'm just over thinking...
Yeah, that's a good point. But, what if the restaurant/server has a track record of bringing you a cheese burger when you repeatedly ask for a hamburger.
Seriously speaking, yeah the tech might take offense, but I was thinking this would help better educate them about our engines. If you think it needs rewording, drop me a PM and I'll be glad to adjust. :thumbup:
Seriously speaking, yeah the tech might take offense, but I was thinking this would help better educate them about our engines. If you think it needs rewording, drop me a PM and I'll be glad to adjust. :thumbup:
War Story
I always do my own oil change at the six month point after the dealer does the free annual (low milage) oil change. Back in 2000, I labeled my oil filter with the foot pounds of torque that it required. I did it for myself as much as for the dealer to see.
The next time I took the car in to have the oil changed, the mechanic must have been somehow offended by my nice neat label because the filter was torqued to oblivion! It took a breakere bar to get the filter off. I did not notice this until 6 months later when I was doing my own oil change. I complained to the dealer and told them this was the last straw for me. I had problems with them previously. Since then I have bought my cars from a dealer farther away but with no problems. (The first dealer eventully went out of business and the dealership was bought out.)
I always do my own oil change at the six month point after the dealer does the free annual (low milage) oil change. Back in 2000, I labeled my oil filter with the foot pounds of torque that it required. I did it for myself as much as for the dealer to see.
The next time I took the car in to have the oil changed, the mechanic must have been somehow offended by my nice neat label because the filter was torqued to oblivion! It took a breakere bar to get the filter off. I did not notice this until 6 months later when I was doing my own oil change. I complained to the dealer and told them this was the last straw for me. I had problems with them previously. Since then I have bought my cars from a dealer farther away but with no problems. (The first dealer eventully went out of business and the dealership was bought out.)
I simply look at the service paperwork to verify the part number of the oil before I leave the dealership. If 07 51 0 037 195 is shown, then the correct oil was used.
Phew! Just checked my recent paperwork and part number matches above. But, they only used 7 litres (7.4 quarts). Dipstick indicates level about halfway between min and max.
Mine says the same as well. 7 - 07 51 0 037 195 5W30 Diesel.
No issues here.
No issues here.
Paranoia
You guys got me paranoid. I checked my records and they did use the right amount and right oil for my three changes.
You guys got me paranoid. I checked my records and they did use the right amount and right oil for my three changes.
This is sounding familar. I just picked up the used 335d (former service loaner). I did ask about the service records and saw they changed the oil (and topped of the DEF) just prior to putting on the floor for sale. When I checked the oil at home it was exactly halfway between min and max as well. So is this another case of not realizing it holds 8 quarts or are they just saving the cost of the 1/2 quart of oil? I was assuming the oil was from a bulk container but maybe they actually have liter bottles (and not quarts)? Then this would all make sense (as 8 liters would be an overfill).
Until I put at least 1000 miles on it myself will not know for sure what it's actual oil consumption rate is. I am expecting it to be like my other BMW's an only consume a minimal amount of oil between changes (less than 1/2 quart in 13K miles).
Until I put at least 1000 miles on it myself will not know for sure what it's actual oil consumption rate is. I am expecting it to be like my other BMW's an only consume a minimal amount of oil between changes (less than 1/2 quart in 13K miles).
Not long before I traded it I took my "d" to my local dealer for an oil topoff.The kid sent out to do it had regular synthetic in his hand...not LL-04.When I pointed that out he thanked me and went to get the correct oil.Yikes!
Also,the pdf makes reference to only one brand of LL-04 oil.There are many,as I suspect most of us know,and at least a few are easily available in this country....Mobil 1 ESP Formula being just one.Not long ago I managed to get 20 litres of Fuchs synthetic that's LL-04 and 229.51 (Mercedes diesels) approved.I got it for just over $7/litre including shipping.
Also,the pdf makes reference to only one brand of LL-04 oil.There are many,as I suspect most of us know,and at least a few are easily available in this country....Mobil 1 ESP Formula being just one.Not long ago I managed to get 20 litres of Fuchs synthetic that's LL-04 and 229.51 (Mercedes diesels) approved.I got it for just over $7/litre including shipping.
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