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I had previously put a post where I asked if sports package is a must buy on a new 335i. From everyone's response I am convinced that it is very much needed. But now I have another question. Which is a better deal, 335xi with sports package (without any snow tyres) or 335i with snow tyres for winter season? Obviously during summer season, I would be using summer tyres. I think both will cost approximately same.
 

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The 335 is powerful enough to easily handle the additional weight and losses associated with the AWD. If you're seriously concerned about snow driving, you'll probably be happier with the xi. If, OTOH, you want a performance set up and would be considering maybe taking your try at tracking the vehicle... if you want your vehicle just a little lower and a little lighter... if you like the looks of a staggered setup... you might be happier with the 335i. I would vote for just the 335i, but this is YOUR car, not mine.
 

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awd with most all seasons is better than rwd with most snow tires, at least in terms of traction. I'm sure there will be someone with a rwd bmw that will tell you the opposite.

here's an interestin car and driver test on the topic. in the straight line test on snow, the awd all season mercedes was much better off than the rwd mercedes with snows on it.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ion_test_what_price_traction_feature/(page)/1

the 2wd cars with snow tires handle the slalom and skidpad as good and often better than the awd cars with all seasons, however.

for me, I chose awd with all seasons, because I think that's a good compromise. winter tires generally drive like crap on dry pavement, and I would think that their effectiveness in a rwd car in the snow would fall off dramatically as they become worn.
 

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awd with most all seasons is better than rwd with most snow tires, at least in terms of traction. I'm sure there will be someone with a rwd bmw that will tell you the opposite.

here's an interestin car and driver test on the topic. in the straight line test on snow, the awd all season mercedes was much better off than the rwd mercedes with snows on it.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files_tested_by_c_d/winter_traction_test_what_price_traction_feature/(page)/1
AWD does nothing for stopping or turning..... best bet would be snow tires and AWD.
 

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Had snows on my xi this winter and it was unstoppable :thumbup::thumbup:
 

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how do xi without snow tires perform as far as traction is concerned in snow? If I have to buy snow tires for xi as well then why would I spend that extra cash to get awd at all? I am a little confused since I am new to buying a bmw.
 

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awd + all season tires is fine. Make sure you don't try driving on summer tires in the snow though. find out what tires the sport package xi will have on it.. make sure they are all season and you'll be ok.

The only reason you'd get winter tires AND awd is if you wanted the absolute best combination for snow driving. For me, that's not worth the hassle of switching tires, or the sacrifice on dry pavement.
 

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all seasons on bmw are sub-par......go with AWD w/summers and put winter tires on in the winter and you will annhilate anything on the road....the only quarm i would have of my awd E92 is that its raised a few inches but then u get over that
 

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all seasons on bmw are sub-par......go with AWD w/summers and put winter tires on in the winter and you will annhilate anything on the road....the only quarm i would have of my awd E92 is that its raised a few inches but then u get over that
Completely agree with this. AWD is not just for snow. It helps in rain, cornering, etc.. Performance tires + AWD is great in Summer and Snow Tires + AWD is great in Winter. And 335xi has enough power/torque to easily handle the little extra weight. Having said that, I would just get the 335xi and replace the all-seasons with high performance all seasons (like Michelin Pilot Sport AS) when the originals wear out. If only because I don't have the space to store the extra tires/wheels.
 

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I have an e92 335i with sport package and have a winter tires/wheels. I opted for the i over the xi because of the handling due to the fact that the xi does not have a true sport package. While it is not as good as AWD in the snow it does just fine- and I've had it for two of the most brutal winters in recent memory. I figured I would rather buy a car that would handle best 90% of the time I drive rather than go for one that best handles the 10%.
 

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just ordered a 328i-x drive and nooooooooo sport package...the roads here are bad in the northeast especially after the winter. and i felt im better off without it... i do intend to get winter tires as we have a 2nd home in the poconos and we get some horrible wether
 

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how do xi without snow tires perform as far as traction is concerned in snow? If I have to buy snow tires for xi as well then why would I spend that extra cash to get awd at all? I am a little confused since I am new to buying a bmw.
Forget about substituting AWD for dedicated snow tires, the tires determine the stopping. AWD with bad tires will put you in a ditch faster than RWD with snows. Some snow tires have special open cell rubber and grip tenaciously. Plan on dedicated snows regardless of the drive system. Where you live AWD may be useful, and with snows it should be very good.
 

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just ordered a 328i-x drive and nooooooooo sport package...the roads here are bad in the northeast especially after the winter. and i felt im better off without it... i do intend to get winter tires as we have a 2nd home in the poconos and we get some horrible wether
You may want to rethink / change this. With xDrive, the sport package does not effect the suspension (you get the xDrive suspension no matter what), but does add the (much more comfortable) sport seats. You will get the same ride / tires that regardless of which you choose (unless you go with the add-on 18" staggered summer setup).

Definitely agree with dedicated snow in either case.

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If you plan to drive you car in Winter....you will need dedicated snow tires regardless of model.

If you are purchasing a coupe...you will be sacrificing better road handling if you go with the AWD.

Save the extra xi cash and buy dedicated snow tires for the 335i.
 

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Best: xi with snow tires
Second: xi with all-seasons
Third: RWD with snow tires

When it comes to driving in snow, I'm less concerned about problems stopping (just don't drive so fast) and more concerned with the problem of never having the need to stop, as I am unable to get going.
 

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how do xi without snow tires perform as far as traction is concerned in snow? If I have to buy snow tires for xi as well then why would I spend that extra cash to get awd at all? I am a little confused since I am new to buying a bmw.
Yogi,
I have a 335xi and put on all seasons (ContiExtremeContacts) last winter. It performed very well in all aspects (drove to the mountains numerous times) in terms of going, stopping, and handling.

But if your two options are 335xi with sport (without any additional wheel sets) or 335i with sport + snow tires, you would be better off with the 335i since the xi with sport comes with summer tires, which, as you may have read around here, are like hockey pucks on snow.
 

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My friend runs a 2006 M3 pretty well modded, and all he uses is Snows (Blizzaks) and is happy enough with it around Philly here. Depends I guess where you want your priority to be.

As you can see from my choice, the AWD was a must, I have to be able to get to VT/NH to go skiing in the winter, the Xi was a perfect choice.
I am totally happy with the performance of the AWD and the torque and power (as mentioned above) more than give you enough that you don't notice it.

Either car is great! Good Luck!
 

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Had snows on my xi this winter and it was unstoppable :thumbup::thumbup:
Hm, don't you want your car to be stoppable, especially in the winter? :bigpimp:
 
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