[sylphide]

You may have a bad contact somewhere in the signal path

Signal path checked and OK.

I am suprised no one else has this SOS issue after upgrading to NBT Evo and ATM.

My idea was to replace my antenna (X1 2016) with new model still from X1 (which now has NBT Evo), but it seems that the antenna has not changed... (same reference number 65209350089)

Should I install one from another serie that is tested, with both active and backup? I see that in my car there is no backup antenna, only one (backup_antenna is disabled in ATM FDL)

 

[larry_bml]

Hello all, I need some help from you, maybe someone had the same problems like me, and know what I can do to fix them. My car is an F30 2012 with retrofited EVO and ATM. ATM came from an 2014 F23. I managed to even add vehicle to my connected drive account, but I have 2 problems :
1. Locate vehicle doesn't work, but vehicle tracking is activated in iDrive menu.
2. Remote services are working only if the car didn't got to sleep. If I let car to sleep, then nothing works. While car not sleeping HORN, LOCK/UNLOCK, HEADLIGHTS flashing are working from mobile app, but if car got to sleep, then nothing works until car is awake again.

So, what I'm missing? Is there anything that must be coded or something to do?

ATM is power like original, CAN-BUS between NBT + ATM and car is separated by can filter, navigation working, everything beside that 2 errors.
So please, maybe someone can help me.

 

[Mashman]

Hello all, I need some help from you, maybe someone had the same problems like me, and know what I can do to fix them. My car is an F30 2012 with retrofited EVO and ATM. ATM came from an 2014 F23. I managed to even add vehicle to my connected drive account, but I have 2 problems :
1. Locate vehicle doesn't work, but vehicle tracking is activated in iDrive menu.
2. Remote services are working only if the car didn't got to sleep. If I let car to sleep, then nothing works. While car not sleeping HORN, LOCK/UNLOCK, HEADLIGHTS flashing are working from mobile app, but if car got to sleep, then nothing works until car is awake again.

So, what I'm missing? Is there anything that must be coded or something to do?

ATM is power like original, CAN-BUS between NBT + ATM and car is separated by can filter, navigation working, everything beside that 2 errors.
So please, maybe someone can help me.

I don't know why the locate vehicle is not working, it should work, it works for me.

The issue with remote services has to do with you can filter, when the car goes to sleep, it's not sending the messages from the ATM, across to the KCAN bus. I believe this was done to keep from waking the car, and draining the battery. I know the adapters stay powered, they just stop sending the messages across the bus. You can contact the adapter supplier, and see if you can get custom firmware that will continue sending messages after the car goes to sleep.

 

[larry_bml]

Thank you for your answer. I think you are right about filter stoping can messages, I will check that. I hope that is the problem.
I have to see about location also. I read about that cars newer than 07/2014 must have GPS TRACKING activated in settings, and older than 07/2014 not. Now, my car is 2012, my ATM is 03/2014 and EVO is 2017, I have also GPS TRACKING activated, but .... something still not right.

 

[larry_bml]

Hello again, I managed to find the problem with remote services , can filter was powerd behind the EVO, and when car goes to deep sleep it turns that power off, so my can filter was dead also, after connecting can filter to an pwermanent power, now remote control works even car is in deep sleep.
But, unfortunatlely Vehicle finder still not working. It is keep saying that gps is not active in the car, but GPS TRACKING is 100% checked.
Can someone help me with cafd’s from EVO, ATM and FEM from an F30 that has this service and is working ? Please, please , please !!!! Maybe is something that I’m missing in codings.

 

[pweber84]

Hi,

We managed with my friend to completely retrofit a new ATM module in X1 F48 by wiring Ethernet with NBT Evo and replacing the old telematic module (lots of work!).

Finally, every services are working (GPS, RTTI, bmw online, etc) as if the ATM was original part. Last thing I am trying to do is add my car in Connecteddrive website to get remote services.

Currently when I try to add my car with active ATM VIN (different than my NBT EVO that is flashed with my original VIN), I do not get any confirmation message in my car.

Is it a coding parameter I missed? Or do both VIN need to be identical?

Hi,

can you please tell me how you changed a VIN to your car's VIN, doesn't EVO have a component protection? It can be flashed to your car's VIN? Can you tell me more how it works? You want to tell that you don't use nay CAN filter like NBT EVO ATM emulator?

I have F10 2015 and I have retrofitted NBT EVO with ATM emulator, but now I would like to have ConnectedDrive services like internet, live etc. Can you point me in the right direction how can I flash EVO with my VIN and install ATM module (currently have TCB, but it's usless of course)?

Thank you in advance.

 

[phamaker]

I want to thank all as through reading through the forum I was able to retrofit EVO and ATM in my 2010 F10. Neo helped a lot with coding and the emulator.

As I wanted connected drive fully working I bought a EVO with matching ATM so both VIN would be the same. It turned out the seller had messed with the EVO by adding some fake FCS that invalidated all the FSC. I had to flash with different VIN on EVO to get it to work, so will not be able tp register it. But it is awesome to have all the services.

Time to think about the next project

 

[r0b3r]

Hello friends, is there any way to connect OABR from NBT EVO to the car on ethernet to be able to flash and not last long? in the way that it comes from factory to connect and thus not have to put the cable or ethernet and in future occasions not having to dismantle anything, is it possible? What cables do you have to connect? I think they are 4 cables but I do not know where they connect so that it is as factory. Thanks friends.

 

[r0b3r]

Is it possible to install ATM in NBT EVO retrofit without emulator in NBT EVO and without emulator in ATM? previously it was CIC with TCB, now ATM with NBT EVO

 

[phamaker]

Hello friends, is there any way to connect OABR from NBT EVO to the car on ethernet to be able to flash and not last long? in the way that it comes from factory to connect and thus not have to put the cable or ethernet and in future occasions not having to dismantle anything, is it possible? What cables do you have to connect? I think they are 4 cables but I do not know where they connect so that it is as factory. Thanks friends.

Yes depends on what you want. Connect ethernet wires from FEM/ZGW/BDC to the EVO OABR and you can access EVO through normal connection. In the other topics you asked the same question there is a picture showing you how to wire.

. Make sure you either cut the wires so they no longer connect to your quadlock. Make sure that you crimp the connectors on really well as they are tiny and I have had problems with connectivity when they connectors are not done perfect. You can also buy pre-crimped wires from BMW so you are certain they work. The part code is listed earlier in the same message.

You can also make a ethernet cable with same connection to OABR on EVO but just leave it behind the dashboard and you connect to it directly to your laptop when you need it. See the picture on direct connection.https://eobd21.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/bmw-nbt-evo-hu-pinout-for-enet-e-sys-cable/

 

[Mashman]

I want to thank all as through reading through the forum I was able to retrofit EVO and ATM in my 2010 F10. Neo helped a lot with coding and the emulator.

As I wanted connected drive fully working I bought a EVO with matching ATM so both VIN would be the same. It turned out the seller had messed with the EVO by adding some fake FCS that invalidated all the FSC. I had to flash with different VIN on EVO to get it to work, so will not be able tp register it. But it is awesome to have all the services.

Time to think about the next project

So, you flashed it with the VIN of the 'fake' FSC codes?

Did you know about FSC Repair Kits? If not, a FSC Repair Kit contains all the original FSC's for the car. They are available for free to anyone with ASAP access - I don't have it, but there are a number of people who do, and threads where people can ask for help receiving one.

If I was you, I would look into acquiring FSC's for the original VIN, and using it. That way the VIN will match the ATM. If you do go that way, one thing I do is, I code TELEX on the NBT to nicht_activ - that way your car will not send telematics data to the dealer.

 

[r0b3r]

Yes depends on what you want. Connect ethernet wires from FEM/ZGW/BDC to the EVO OABR and you can access EVO through normal connection. In the other topics you asked the same question there is a picture showing you how to wire.

. Make sure you either cut the wires so they no longer connect to your quadlock. Make sure that you crimp the connectors on really well as they are tiny and I have had problems with connectivity when they connectors are not done perfect. You can also buy pre-crimped wires from BMW so you are certain they work. The part code is listed earlier in the same message.

You can also make a ethernet cable with same connection to OABR on EVO but just leave it behind the dashboard and you connect to it directly to your laptop when you need it. See the picture on direct connection.https://eobd21.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/bmw-nbt-evo-hu-pinout-for-enet-e-sys-cable/

Thanks buddy, today I wired 4 cables from NBT EVO to FEM as you put in the diagram of the OABR connector to 173 * 10 of the FEM, what else should I do? with that is enough? What cables do you say you have to cut? Cutting some cable means losing some other benefit?

I have connected from OABR EVO to FEM, PIN 17 OABR to pin 7 A173 + 10B FEM, pin 19 OABR TO 8 A173 + 10B, pin 18 OABR to 1 A173 + 10B, pin 20 OABR to 2 A173 + 10B. also connect to FEM QUACKLOCK number 29 to 173 * 10b pin 3 FEM

What else should I do? Something else is necessary?

Thanks friend.

 

[phamaker]

So, you flashed it with the VIN of the 'fake' FSC codes?

Did you know about FSC Repair Kits? If not, a FSC Repair Kit contains all the original FSC's for the car. They are available for free to anyone with ASAP access - I don't have it, but there are a number of people who do, and threads where people can ask for help receiving one.

If I was you, I would look into acquiring FSC's for the original VIN, and using it. That way the VIN will match the ATM. If you do go that way, one thing I do is, I code TELEX on the NBT to nicht_activ - that way your car will not send telematics data to the dealer.

Thanks! The FSC repair kit did not contain all the FSC's. It missed three: for navigation (120) apps (9C) and carplay (143) the unit came from preproduction test vehicle of BMW. I wanted something legit. Would liked to have used the original VIN for sure. If i check the VIN it has SALAPA codes for all these.

 

[phamaker]

Thanks buddy, today I wired 4 cables from NBT EVO to FEM as you put in the diagram of the OABR connector to 173 * 10 of the FEM, what else should I do? with that is enough? What cables do you say you have to cut? Cutting some cable means losing some other benefit?

I have connected from OABR EVO to FEM, PIN 17 OABR to pin 7 A173 + 10B FEM, pin 19 OABR TO 8 A173 + 10B, pin 18 OABR to 1 A173 + 10B, pin 20 OABR to 2 A173 + 10B. also connect to FEM QUACKLOCK number 29 to 173 * 10b pin 3 FEM

What else should I do? Something else is necessary?

Thanks friend.

Replied ypur PM

 

[Mashman]

Thanks! The FSC repair kit did not contain all the FSC's. It missed three: for navigation (120) apps (9C) and carplay (143) the unit came from preproduction test vehicle of BMW. I wanted something legit. Would liked to have used the original VIN for sure. If i check the VIN it has SALAPA codes for all these.

Ah....When I was trying to find an ATM that would work, I purchased one from a test vehicle, and I couldn't get it to work. It would connect to the cell network, but it was not defined to the BMW servers, and couldn't be added. So, I continued looking, and finally found one from a wrecked car.

 

[sylphide]

I think you need to sort out your issues with antennas first - these are hardware issues. I have an ATM working with E60 antennas (Sharkfin and rear shelf) with no errors.

I ended coding cc_Aktivierung_5=aus and SOS error never came back. Only consequence is that this option has disabled the low fuel level warning. Everything else works fine.

I tried to search X3 main and backup antennas (to replace mine as it may be the source of the error) but it is the same reference as X1! Maybe I missed something..

 

[bmwrider2010]

Read the release notes for Ista/P 3.61 and 3.62. According to notes, latest I-Level bricks some ATMs and they need to be replaced. I have not updated my ATM and with ATM at 3.60 it connects to EVO at 3.62 with no issues.

Do you know is this applied only for Black box ATM or White box ATM as well? Just wondering because I can update I-level and ATM (white) is on the list. Anyone had this error on white ATM?

 

[bmwrider2010]

Okay, I have updated white ATM 2016 with v63 software no problems works fine

 

[sylphide]

OK, I have found a way to disable SOS error without losing other functions : just disabled one bit instead of all 8 bytes

It seems it is enough to make the error disappear.

In Kombi, CC_AKTIVIERUNG_5 = FF FF FF FF FF F7 FF FF

I hope I won't have to change any antenna or other component with this nice solution.

 

[VitaminXX]

My car is 2017/7 F36 and it comes with ID6 Magnet Marelli head unit and ATM module. I look at my head unit, It seems I have GPS signal from ATM module as the head unit has a 6 pin OABR connector and there are 3 wires which colors are
Pin 1: Apple Green
Pin 2: White
Pin 3: Black.

I recently retrofitted NBT EVO and move the 3 pins from Marelli to NBT EVO OABR to get GPS signal.
Marelli NBT EVO
Pin 1 Pin 2
Pin 2 Pin 4
Pin 3 Pin 3

After relocated the 3 wires and coded the SYSTEM_GPS_RECEIVER to Nicht_Aktiv. I get "No Almanac". Seems I get no GPS signal from my ATM module. My head unit has GPS connector but I do not want to use aftermarket GPS receiver. Does anyone know what I need to do to work it out?