[VitaminXX]

My car is 2017/7 F36 and it comes with ID6 Magnet Marelli head unit and ATM module. I look at my head unit, It seems I have GPS signal from ATM module as the head unit has a 6 pin OABR connector and there are 3 wires which colors are
Pin 1: Apple Green
Pin 2: White
Pin 3: Black.

I recently retrofitted NBT EVO and move the 3 pins from Marelli to NBT EVO OABR to get GPS signal.
Marelli NBT EVO
Pin 1 Pin 2
Pin 2 Pin 4
Pin 3 Pin 3

After relocated the 3 wires and coded the SYSTEM_GPS_RECEIVER to Nicht_Aktiv. I get "No Almanac". Seems I get no GPS signal from my ATM module. My head unit has GPS connector but I do not want to use aftermarket GPS receiver. Does anyone know what I need to do to work it out?

 

[Morfik]

Good afternoon friends, tell me, please, whether there is an opportunity to add the function "connected drive" on bmw x3 LCI (f25) 2017 year. Car was bought from the dealer with the ATM retrofitted, because it has "SOS" button inside cabin, but without the NBT EVO. The car was upgraded with NBT EVO (not from the dealer). It was a donor device from the broken car. I have everything activated except bmw connected drive. Guys who installed it about a year ago said that it is not possible to activate it, the only opportunity that I was offered was to put the ATM from the car on which this function have been already activated. May be something have changed since than? May be somebody give a clue is it possible now? May be i can code it through E-sys? I can't buy subscription from BMW official web site using my vin code, because i don't have this option from factory. If i try vin from car from which this nbt evo was taken is it gonna work or it is not that simple as it sounds?)) Any help will be appreciated. BMW has sale for connected drive subscription and i really want to use it) Thank you.

 

[Jhnblckwood]

Good afternoon friends, tell me, please, whether there is an opportunity to add the function "connected drive" on bmw x3 LCI (f25) 2017 year. Car was bought from the dealer with the ATM retrofitted, because it has "SOS" button inside cabin, but without the NBT EVO. The car was upgraded with NBT EVO (not from the dealer). It was a donor device from the broken car. I have everything activated except bmw connected drive. Guys who installed it about a year ago said that it is not possible to activate it, the only opportunity that I was offered was to put the ATM from the car on which this function have been already activated. May be something have changed since than? May be somebody give a clue is it possible now? May be i can code it through E-sys? I can't buy subscription from BMW official web site using my vin code, because i don't have this option from factory. If i try vin from car from which this nbt evo was taken is it gonna work or it is not that simple as it sounds?)) Any help will be appreciated. BMW has sale for connected drive subscription and i really want to use it) Thank you.

If ur car didn***8217;t come with evo then u shouldn***8217;t have atm ***8220;retrofitted***8221; unless I***8217;m mistaking. Maybe u had a tcb but in order to get connected drive services u need an atm module with current subscription and have that vin match the evo head unit. U can***8217;t change the vin in atm, at least I can***8217;t, heard some Russians can but idk. U have pic of the ***8220;atm***8221; module u have to make sure it is in fact an atm?

 

[Morfik]

If ur car didn't come with evo then u shouldn't have atm "retrofitted" unless I'm mistaking. Maybe u had a tcb but in order to get connected drive services u need an atm module with current subscription and have that vin match the evo head unit. U can't change the vin in atm, at least I can't, heard some Russians can but idk. U have pic of the "atm" module u have to make sure it is in fact an atm?

I am sure that it is atm. All new cars comes with atm, besides electrician who was installing EVO confirmed it. I don't have subscription, because car wasn't occupied with evo from the factory. I have talked to one guy from BMW workshop in Moscow and he insured me that they can do it, but I don't want to drive 900 km because of such a trifle. I am looking for way to do it myself or find local specialists.

 

[littlezhu00]

@VitaminXX
If your car have ATM with HU-ENTRY, there will have a small connector in HU-entry, you can modify the wire connect to nbt-EVO oabr port, then FA add vo coding , very work OK !
For China 2018 new car I modify as this ,everthing work fine. you can check the wire from ISTA-D.
Hu-entry small connector --White wire --->EVO OABR PIN 2
Hu-entry small connector --Green wire --->EVO OABR PIN 4
Hu-entry small connector --Transparent color wire --->EVO OABR PIN 8
Then FA add VO: 6AC,6AE,6AK,6AM,6AN,6AP, coding EVO.
Done !

 

[littlezhu00]

@VitaminXX
If your car have ATM with HU-ENTRY, there will have a small connector in HU-entry, you can modify the wire connect to nbt-EVO oabr port, then FA add vo coding , very work OK !
For China 2018 new car I modify as this ,everthing work fine. you can check the wire from ISTA-D.
Hu-entry small connector --White wire --->EVO OABR PIN 2
Hu-entry small connector --Green wire --->EVO OABR PIN 4
Hu-entry small connector --Transparent color wire --->EVO OABR PIN 8
Then FA add VO: 6AC,6AE,6AK,6AM,6AN,6AP, coding EVO.
Done !

 

[Mashman]

Good afternoon friends, tell me, please, whether there is an opportunity to add the function "connected drive" on bmw x3 LCI (f25) 2017 year. Car was bought from the dealer with the ATM retrofitted, because it has "SOS" button inside cabin, but without the NBT EVO. The car was upgraded with NBT EVO (not from the dealer). It was a donor device from the broken car. I have everything activated except bmw connected drive. Guys who installed it about a year ago said that it is not possible to activate it, the only opportunity that I was offered was to put the ATM from the car on which this function have been already activated. May be something have changed since than? May be somebody give a clue is it possible now? May be i can code it through E-sys? I can't buy subscription from BMW official web site using my vin code, because i don't have this option from factory. If i try vin from car from which this nbt evo was taken is it gonna work or it is not that simple as it sounds?)) Any help will be appreciated. BMW has sale for connected drive subscription and i really want to use it) Thank you.

The issue you have, is that BMW communicates with the ATM by VIN, and to them, your VIN not capable of ConnectedDrive services, so BMW will not allow you the option to provision them. The only way you will get ConnectedDrive services to work with your ATM, is to get BMW to update their database to reflect that you have NBT EVO. If I was you, I would contact BMW, and tell them that their database is wrong, that you have EVO, and you would like to order services. If they ask, tell them that you decided on EVO at the last second, and maybe they will think it was a mistake.

Other than that, your only other option is, as mentioned, is to install an ATM from another car, and then you need to 1) update the VIN and FSC's on your EVO to match that VIN, and 2) install an emulator that allows you to have a VIN in the EVO, different than your actual VIN.

 

[Morfik]

The issue you have, is that BMW communicates with the ATM by VIN, and to them, your VIN not capable of ConnectedDrive services, so BMW will not allow you the option to provision them. The only way you will get ConnectedDrive services to work with your ATM, is to get BMW to update their database to reflect that you have NBT EVO. If I was you, I would contact BMW, and tell them that their database is wrong, that you have EVO, and you would like to order services. If they ask, tell them that you decided on EVO at the last second, and maybe they will think it was a mistake.

Other than that, your only other option is, as mentioned, is to install an ATM from another car, and then you need to 1) update the VIN and FSC's on your EVO to match that VIN, and 2) install an emulator that allows you to have a VIN in the EVO, different than your actual VIN.

Thanks for your answer. I think the option with data base error will not succeed)) Besides where can I address my request? To dealer or directly to connected drive service? I couldn't understand one thing why I can't activate this services officially? I have Radio professional installed from the factory instead of EVO. My friend has BMW 3 with the same radio and model year, but with teleservices option activated. He can access his car remotely and etc. I think my ATM is only limited on a software level and only allows me to use SOS button in case of emergency. It is unprofitable to make different versions of atm on my mind. The only question is.... can I activate it officially?

 

[JPToadstool]

ATM Activation code

Sorry to jump in on this thread, but I've searched many other places without an answer.

I have an NBT Evo and ATM installed in my car. The Evo has FSCs matching the ATM, which currently has an active subscription. I cannot add my vehicle to my ConnectedDrive account as the activation message never comes through to the vehicle. Everything else works as expected, but the subscription expires in December, and I'd like to add it before then.

There seems to be a lot of knowledgeable people on here, so hoping someone can help. Despite provisioning data being downloaded when I choose "Update BMW Services", is it worth someone on here sending the provisioning data to me, and me injecting it through Tool32? Thanks for any help!

 

[Jhnblckwood]

Sorry to jump in on this thread, but I've searched many other places without an answer.

I have an NBT Evo and ATM installed in my car. The Evo has FSCs matching the ATM, which currently has an active subscription. I cannot add my vehicle to my ConnectedDrive account as the activation message never comes through to the vehicle. Everything else works as expected, but the subscription expires in December, and I'd like to add it before then.

There seems to be a lot of knowledgeable people on here, so hoping someone can help. Despite provisioning data being downloaded when I choose "Update BMW Services", is it worth someone on here sending the provisioning data to me, and me injecting it through Tool32? Thanks for any help!

Did u code the the headunit for the atm? Hook it up to ista and see if it has to b initialized or something?

 

[Mashman]

Sorry to jump in on this thread, but I've searched many other places without an answer.

I have an NBT Evo and ATM installed in my car. The Evo has FSCs matching the ATM, which currently has an active subscription. I cannot add my vehicle to my ConnectedDrive account as the activation message never comes through to the vehicle. Everything else works as expected, but the subscription expires in December, and I'd like to add it before then.

There seems to be a lot of knowledgeable people on here, so hoping someone can help. Despite provisioning data being downloaded when I choose "Update BMW Services", is it worth someone on here sending the provisioning data to me, and me injecting it through Tool32? Thanks for any help!

Was the donor for the ATM and the EVO the same car? If they are not at the same I-level, I believe you can run into this issue.

Do you have an E-series, or an F-series car?

The provisioning file for EVO is encrypted to the ATM/EVO VIN. So, you can't manipulate the provisioning file, like you can with the original NBT.

 

[JPToadstool]

No, they were different cars, but I believe they are flashed to the same I-Step. I have an E series car, specifically an E46 with a CarSystems adapter. I did read that, it's a shame :-/.

@Jhnblckwood I coded the head unit to include ATM-specific flags as Aktiv. I don't use ISTA, only E-Sys and Tool32. My laptop is low on space, and I generally find these work fine.

 

[Jhnblckwood]

No, they were different cars, but I believe they are flashed to the same I-Step. I have an E series car, specifically an E46 with a CarSystems adapter. I did read that, it's a shame ***x1f615;.

@Jhnblckwood I coded the head unit to include ATM-specific flags as Aktiv. I don't use ISTA, only E-Sys and Tool32. My laptop is low on space, and I generally find these work fine.

I understand esys is great but sometimes u do NEED ista. I did for lci led headlight upgrade plus it***8217;s great for diagnostics jus to make sure everything is set up correct. I would at least give it a shot.

 

[Mashman]

No, they were different cars, but I believe they are flashed to the same I-Step. I have an E series car, specifically an E46 with a CarSystems adapter. I did read that, it's a shame :-/.

@Jhnblckwood I coded the head unit to include ATM-specific flags as Aktiv. I don't use ISTA, only E-Sys and Tool32. My laptop is low on space, and I generally find these work fine.

The only time I've had this problem was when the VIN of the EVO/FSCs did not match the ATM VIN. I thought I knew the ATM donor VIN, and I got an FSC kit for that VIN, and updated the EVO. I had the same problem you are having, and then realized that the VIN I was told, was not actually the VIN of the ATM donor.

Can you use Tool32, connect to ATM job and 1) see what, if any, errors are associated with the ATM (if the problem is with VIN, you may not see any errors, if it's connecting to the servers, or EVO, you might find a useful error), and 2) read the provisioning data, you should see the ATM VIN in it, to confirm it's using the VIN you think it should be using.

 

[larry_bml]

Hello again , I have a similar problem with my retrofited EVO and ATM on F30: my EVO and ATM are having same VIN, they worked perfectly until 1 month ago when I saw that messages to the car, navi destinations, are not coming anymore. Remote commands are working. I made an update to services and now online apps are missing also. No messages, weather, news etc, but still remote commands working, position working and services are available until 06.2019, and also Connected Drive Store is available into car and can be accessed. Car is added to my account. Tried to update services from car, several times, but no luck. Does anyone have any idea? Or can help me? Thank you in advance!!!

 

[2real4u]

Provisioning code comes as a text message/sms from BMW server, it is encoded for specific VIN. To make it appear:
ATM has to have original donor VIN from the car it came from, have active subscription and LTE network connectivity.
EVO has to have FSC and Coding VINs matching ATM. Evo has to be properly connected to ATM.
EVO has to be coded for ATM.

You need to update subscriptions from EVO. If it does not work, you may need to run provisioning reset from tool32 to reset it to DAS/DPAS (factory settings), or to properly signed and current provisioning file for the VIN.

 

[larry_bml]

All FSC***8217;s and VIN***8217;s are as you said, this combination worked perfectly for 6 months. Can you help me with steps for tool32? Or you can help me remotly? I will be glad to give you a beer

 

[larry_bml]

Hello, please someone help me, I've tried to reset provisioning data from ATM and EVO, but I didn't find any tool32 command for this. Only steuern_provisioning_data I found in both ATM and NBTEVO prgs, but don't know arguments for reseting provisioning data. I tried updateing provision data from EVO, it returns data transfer OK, but it is like it doesn't want to change old provisioning file from EVO.
In this combination of EVO and ATM, system worked perfectly for almost 1 year.
Can someone please help me? I will pay for help.

 

[Raymnd]

Hello

Today I did this retrofit
I did as 2real4u described

I had NBT EVO already retrofitted and atm emulator for gps
So I look on eBay and found ATM and after a few messages with seller I purchase one from them.
Then I got new FSC codes for the EVO and programmed it with new vin from ATM.
And today it arrived
I wired it up and check with esys that I was ok and that the vin was correct.
Then I started the car and update services.
And bingo everything works great
Then I started app added vin and asked for code.
The code came in a few minuets and punch it in and bingo it’s activated



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[JPToadstool]

Solution

I finally found the solution to my problem. I had all FSCs correct, they matched the ATM VIN number as well. Tool32 jobs to reset the provisioning also did not resolve it. It was seemingly unsolvable without access to the backend.

It turns out that the coding file contains a calculated value for the VIN stored within the .ncd file as "longvin", which is in hexadecimal form. The only way I could find that changed this VIN was by creating a TAL with cdDeploy for the coding file. Any previously created .ncd file wrote the old VIN back to the HU, as did right clicking the HU and choosing "Code", and therefore did not work. Once the new coding file was deployed, I could FDL edit as much as I liked.