[dawgbone]

I have yet to exsperience the complaint with the stock M3 rack..I'm starting to think that it may have to do with what you're doing with the car..

the m3 rack is so slow its hard to catch the car in time with counter steering.

I feel that the car is very easy to pull out of high speed drifts, or say, when the rears want to scat out from a fast right, hard braking and rolling over into a slow left(sorry can't think of the term)..I can almost invision exactly where to countersteer and tire position in my head, let alone feeling it in the steering wheel..

On the other hand, there is a lot of understeer(not really slow), and from my understanding is a common characteristic of stock MB's, and Porsche as well(Autobahn in mind)..In which is not a completely bad thing for stock/factory setups..Being that understeer at high speeds will reduce chances of driver error causing a mishap...

Now slow speed turns does take alot of wrenching of the wheel, more than I prefer..I don't see it being slow, but heavy and alot of steering wheel travel(understeer)..Learning to pull out of a doughnut gracefully, took me quite a couple of trys, and more rear wheel rubber$$ than I care for..But doughnuts has very little fun factor, so it's not a biggy to me..

Also..Can anyone inform me on what "engine-speed-sensitive variable-assist power steering" is, and maybe how it works...Is it a part of DSC? I mistaked it for "speed sensitive assisted steering" but was informed different awhile back..

 

[Pinecone]

Actually virtually ALL stock cars are tuned for mucho understeer. Understeer is safe. Natural reaction os the great unwashed when teh car doesn't turn properly is to lift. If you lift in an understeering car, the front end loads up and turns better and you get around the corner. Or at least when you go off, you go off under control and forwards.

Oversteer is a different beast. Natural reaction to lift will INCREASE over steer, making a simple slide into snap spin and backing off theroad at high speed. NOT good.

I have no problem with stock M3 rack. I find it to be a nice balance between lower speed manuevering and high speed stability. But I have never autocrossed the E46, but I have tracked it.

 

[Llarry]

Another ZCP review is at

www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1116428204456734776/index.php

and the author likes it a lot.

He mentions the "forged wheels."

 

[dawgbone]

Another ZCP review is at

www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/1116428204456734776/index.php

and the author likes it a lot.

He mentions the "forged wheels."

owners live for the day when the warranty expire.. :thumbup:

 

[ArchAngle]

I have 2005 M3 with Comp Package and ripped everything out already. I think it's waste of money. I could of used the money else wehre.

 

[Moderato]

I have 2005 M3 with Comp Package and ripped everything out already. I think it's waste of money. I could of used the money else wehre.

What exactly is the "everything" you ripped out?

 

[Lori]

The ZCP package is perfect for me as I don't want to mod the car. The stereo rocks, the appearance is awsome and the car handles great. If you plan to mod then the ZCP is a waste of money IMO. I think the ZCP is great for people who lease but want a custom look and slightly better performance.

 

[TD330ci]

The ZCP package is perfect for me as I don't want to mod the car. The stereo rocks, the appearance is awsome and the car handles great. If you plan to mod then the ZCP is a waste of money IMO. I think the ZCP is great for people who lease but want a custom look and slightly better performance.

I could not have said it better. :thumbup:

Lease or buy.

 

[ArchAngle]

What exactly is the "everything" you ripped out?

Changed out the entire suspension, wheels. steering wheel, shift knob, break handle, and trims are on order to be changed out.

I have Dinan S-2 Package, rear control arms, mid section pipe (x-pipe tubi) AC Schnitzer Silver corbon fiber front lip, Silver Corbon fiber racing wing, Hamann Edition wheels, and all enhancements to match my silver gray color. And more stuff I just can't remember.....

When I bought the car it went stright to the shop to bet everything done. :thumbup: :fingers:

 

[Krochelli]

I'm not modding the car either. For me it came down to 4k for cool paint color. Saving 12 ft on braking wasn't necessary for me, and the alcantara stuff isn't very cool to me. If they had actually tweaked the motor a tad like ZHP, would have ordered it in a heart beat. I don't have controls on steering wheel on my Porsche, so that never was an issue.

The ZCP package is perfect for me as I don't want to mod the car. The stereo rocks, the appearance is awsome and the car handles great. If you plan to mod then the ZCP is a waste of money IMO. I think the ZCP is great for people who lease but want a custom look and slightly better performance.

The stereo Lori is the same in all models

 

[Lori]

I'm not modding the car either. For me it came down to 4k for cool paint color. Saving 12 ft on braking wasn't necessary for me, and the alcantara stuff isn't very cool to me. If they had actually tweaked the motor a tad like ZHP, would have ordered it in a heart beat. I don't have controls on steering wheel on my Porsche, so that never was an issue.

The stereo Lori is the same in all models

I got the special ZCP stereo. Bigger amp and subwoofers but you loose volume control. Just kidding. I know it's the same stereo I was just pointing out that the car is a well rounded and fun vehicle right out of the box. Sorry if my post was cunfusing.

 

[elvisinturn1]

I can't tell ya how much I love the Competition model. Just picked it up yesterday, and I have no regrets. Sucks not having some controls, but afterall, I bought an M3 instead of a 3XX for a reason I've put 300 miles on it since yesterday morning. I don't hear any brake noise, nor can I complain. The "Sport" and "M" modes are fun to play around with. Too bad I gotta shift at 5k for 1100 more miles

 

[elvisinturn1]

Oh, I do have one problem with the "Bluetooth" option. I have a Verizon V710, which is an approved model, but it doesn't link correctly. Dealer said the car has a defective Bluetooth module and they've already seen a bunch with the problem. :dunno:

 

[TD330ci]

I can't tell ya how much I love the Competition model. Just picked it up yesterday, and I have no regrets. Sucks not having some controls, but afterall, I bought an M3 instead of a 3XX for a reason I've put 300 miles on it since yesterday morning. I don't hear any brake noise, nor can I complain. The "Sport" and "M" modes are fun to play around with. Too bad I gotta shift at 5k for 1100 more miles

WoHOOO!! Congrats!! :thumbup:

You guys are killing me. I can't wait.

 

[Lori]

The M3ZCP is awsome. Congratulations.

 

[spta97]

I am going to order the ZCP as well. I did the same as you and realized that getting the rims and tires after market was going to cost in upwards of $3000. So for $1000 I'm getting the cool paint job and cross drilled rotors (which are really only for looks to me). If the rims could be ordered separately as an option that probably would have done it because I never liked the stock rims. However when spending $55k I figured I might as well throw in another $4k and get what I want. :thumbup: