Kaz said:Didn't someone post a pic a month or so ago of one of these on a showroom floor in Dubai?
atyclb said:The CSL may or may not get produced, but it is appearing unlikely that it would ever reach U.S. shores.
The HACK said:Rumor has it BMW is planning on building a consumer version of the lightweight but not go to the extremes...It'll likely have SOME of the technologies from the CSL but not so CB extreme.
nate328Ci said:
I want it to go though unchanged![]()
The HACK said:
Would cost too much to be appealing to ANYONE. The carbon fiber parts are too expensive to mass produce I think.
If a lightweight version of the M3 does come out, it'd have to be within $65K to be appealing I think. Anything more than that I'd rather spring for the M5 and the extra 2 doors.
nate328Ci said:
The M3 CSL wouldn't be made for the faint of heart "image" buyer (if there is such a thing) and would go against the Porsche 911 in the track/enthusiast market. I think that it could go as high as $75K and be competetive with Porsche.
The problem getting it to the USA is regulations. Because it would have to be certified and would be sold in limited quantities, it might not be profitable.
As for the M5 issue, these cars don't even compare to eachother. The M5 is a 4000+ lb street sedan that is great on the street, super comfortable, and great on the track. The M3 CSL is a stripped down ~2950 lb E46 made for track use. I don't think buyers will comparison shop these cars. 911, for sure. It is faster than the 911 GT3, the Porsche "club-race" car. :bigpimp:
TD said:
I agree on all points.
And I cannot imagine that there is ANYONE out there who would buy a CSL-like M3 at $65K that would defect to an M5 were the CSL-like M3 $75K instead. They might defect to the 911, but not an M5. Totally different cars with totally different purposes.
Then again, I cannot imagine that an M3 SEDAN would steal a single sale away from the M5. I guess that shows what I know.
nate328Ci said:The M5 is great on the track (from personal experience), but it can never be a track star like the CSL.
Alex Baumann said:Correct sir ! The CSL is 30+ seconds quicker than E46M3 at Nürburgring.
alee said:
Ouch, that much quicker? :yikes:
Alex Baumann said:Yep, amazing, isn't it ? They tested both of them on five laps and took the average![]()
alee said:Certainly wasn't me driving.How does it compare against some of the fastest ring times?
Alex Baumann said:
The test article is in one of my 600+ magazinesI think I must archive them soon, LOL.
I'm thinking to set up a database, so I can answer question like this faster![]()
alee said:You haven't memorized it yet?![]()