Just wanted to say thanks for all the info on here. :thumbup: I've always enjoyed detailing my rides, cars,bikes,sleds, and the stuff I get on here really is an eye opener for me. I even got rid of my armoral- :rofl: Anyways owning a black car has its draw backs but thanks to this forum I was able to clay for the first time today and ended up wiping down with zymol. It really shines. Now something for my elbo's?