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Complicated Air Suspension Leak. Not The Bags. Ideas?

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#1 ·
2008 4.8i. New Arnott air springs, new blue (right, replaced due to hose damage) air pipe, new fittings. Air bags hold air. I can't squeeze any air out. Suspension has a super slow leak. (Only noticeable now that I'm not driving much. Right sags a little first, followed by the left). Soapy water reveals no leak at the bag fitting and no leak at the valve block fittings. In my mind that leaves the valve block and and compressor. While still installed I sprayed soapy water on the entire valve block from underneath and did not see any bubbles. It's impossible to see the top. I also sprayed the hose fittings from the compressor to the valve block. No bubbles. I have seen a YouTube test of the valve block being submerged but it would be great to hear about another way to test the system. I think I have ruled out the fittings, bags, and pipes. Anyone have recommendations? Compressor still pumps, ride height is correct. Compressor and valve block is original at 170,000 miles.

Rebuild valve block with new seals? Rebuild compressor? I HATE replacing items before seeing the reason.

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#2 ·
There's also a dump valve. Did you heck if it's leaking? As you know, the 2 circuits, left and right, are separate so if both sides are sagging, look for a common cause.
I would drop the compressor/valve block to check it more thoroughly. It's only 3 nuts once you get the splash shield off.
The compressor is only intermittent duty and will fail quickly if it runs too much.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Thanks. I haven't dropped the valve block or compressor yet. I will have to check the dump valve as well. I had a spare brand new Arnott bag in the garage just to rule out any bag issues. Damn bag was defective out of the box. Had a crack in the top plastic. I have some days coming up to look deeper. If I disconnect the 3 bolts can I drop everything enough to soapy water test? Even the top? This is a difficult leak to find. The right side is the first to show a dropping issue but I see the left side seems to drop a bit as well. This makes me think it might be a common leak point like the dump valve. I've had that splash shield off and on again 5-10 times at least. Definitely an annoying thing to trace.

I don't see a dump valve on Realoem.com. Where do I find it?

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#4 ·
Hmm, I don***8217;t have thIs issue yet, but I know it is probably coming in not a distant future. Range Rover YouTube /forum have a lot of info on air suspension troubleshooting. also, just an idea, measure the height of each wheel arch before and after to see exactly left/right or both sides are impacted
 
#5 · (Edited)
I know this system pretty well now. I’m beginning to think it is only a right side issue but has a slight impact on the left side due to lowering. After 5 days now it seems the left has adjusted a bit to the right but is not really leaking. The right is looowwwwww. Left is almost at the appropriate height. This might rule out a “common” failure for both sides. I just warrantied out my spare Arnott bag and am waiting for it in the mail. I plan on replacing the right side bag and then submerging the old right side bag in water (sealed at the air connection) to see if somehow it was damaged beyond visual or hearing detection when the air pipe was originally perforated. I think the compressor and dump valve would cause a pretty equal side leak. This, in my mind, leaves the valve block and bag as the only suspects.


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#8 ·
Problem solved. I removed the bag again from the side that was falling. I elongated it and was able to find the smallest of leaks when I submerged the bottom half of the bag in a bucket of water. My air pipe repair was always fine so I didn't really need to replace the air pipe. This will be the second bag I warranty out this week. Area of the tiny leak pictured below.



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