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Correction to my last post. You want to click on the link under the picture of the fluid bottle. it says "Download product info pdf MSDS" and that is where the charts are that have the part #'s for the Texico and Dextron VI that it replaces.
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I know this is an old posting but I don't see this chart showing dexron VI replacing the TEXACO ETL 8072 B used for the GM5 transmission. Did it get removed from the site?
 

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Just an FYI, I have 2004 330I with the GM A5S390R transmission and the green label. The BMW service adviser confirmed that the dealership was using Dexron VI for all transmission draining for this model which originally had Texaco fluid. He said they offer a full flush or drain only and it was safe to mix the Dexron VI. A full flush was $400, drain only no filter $150.00. So, GM's list of approved Dexron VI is long and included Super Tech Dexron VI from Walmart. I bought the Super Tech for $4.27 per qt, got the same identical filter kit from Advanced Auto that is sold by all the on line bimmer parts stores for only $17.33. Changed the fluid and filter and my car shifts as if it was new. The guys in Walmart said the Super Tech motor oil was Texaco oil so you know a major manufacturer private labels the AFT. Don't get caught up in the hype of $9.00 per qt. high end brands, Dexron VI is a synthetic blend no matter which brand you buy. I have put 25k on this fluid and can't tell the difference between $4.27 per qt and $9.00 per qt. other than my wallet is fatter.
First I see of using AA filter kit ($17.33)for this. Has anyone else used this Kit?
 

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Thank you for your homework here. I to have the GM auto transmission in my 03 325xi wagon that is required to have Texaco ETL 8072B fluid. My car has to date 128k miles. I wanted to change the atf a year ago when I after I bought it from my sister in law at 116k miles.. who bought it new in 03. I know the history and maintenance in general with this car. This car had an easy life and with no trailer hitch...and it never climbed Mt. Washington. LoraLee, my sister in law, she pampered this car for well over dacade!

Texaco ETL 8072B is not available to me here in Connecticut..and I am not 100% sure I should do anything with this ATF....as a result.

The transmission does display an unusual character.....has so since I've had the car.

In the morning, after the cars is started, and yes, I wate 2 or 3 minutes,...after putting the gear selector into reverse and pulling out of my parking space...then I place the gear selector into forward....after doing so..there is 'no' movement forward until I put my foot into the throttle 'ie' gas pedal...then gradually the transmission reacts. This happens everyday...or after the car has sat 8 hours.

I think the 'Texaco ETL 8072B' fluid level is low. I have not tried to check the fluid level as it is not easy to do. I assume the level may be low....probably is...but there is no 'Texaco ETL 8072B' to bring a low level back up. Another alternative..and don't mix atf...but change to Dexron 6...I have heard not to do that..so I drive my car and with the 'BMW "Blue Label" lifetime" atf...and until it dies..I guess?
 

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I i initially changed mine with dex 6. After 20000 or so i noticed slipping as you have described. I bought redline dex 3. Had it professionally replaced and have had no issues since. I don't know if the level was low or not but I would assume so with my car. I would do a little more homework and make either choice but ensure that if it is a diy that the level is good.

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At 85K on the odometer I decided to service my transmission, id est change oil and filter.

I was following this wonderful DIY by james2538 from E46f:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=438667&highlight=atf+change

I took my own pictures and did the write-up below. Later I'll either update this thread or do a separate DIY on how to put the car on 4 jack stands.

My 02 325i is equipped with GM transmission, A5S 390R-ZP in the BMW nomenclature or 5L40E in the GM nomenclature. The pan has a blue sticker with the oil part #: 83220024359 which is Texaco ETL 8072B oil. I decided to use the original type of oil and did not regret it and let me explain why. First of all I need to say that getting hold of ETL 8072B oil is getting more and more difficult since dealerships do not carry it any more because it has been replaced with Dexron VI oil. Some dealerships still have some of 8072B in stock though. The closest to me in St. Louis is Plaza Motors and they had about 9 litres left in stock, $ 9,11 per half litre. Mark, the parts guy brought the 25 L container to the counter (and I had a chance to make sure the big container had the right label "Texaco ETL 8072B" and the correct part #) and sold me 6 litres by pouring it into my own containers (I had three 2L containers with me). No wonder they do not recommend mixing this oil with other types! The color of this oil is dark brown with a tint of gold and not red like most of the ATF I've seen before. The viscosity of it looked to me thicker than the Dex fluid and more like that of motor oil. Mark and me compared this oil and GM Dexron VI at the sales counter and they did look like 2 different types of fluid based on visual observation of color and viscosity. That's all I base my opinion on, I have neither time nor interest to investigate into chemical composition of BMW oil versus other ATF. I do not regret buying the original, more expensive oil for the peace of mind. If my transmission fails some time in the future at least I'll know it's not because of the wrong fluid in it.

The evening before starting on the process of ATF change I put the car on 4 jack stands. I put the front wheels on ramps and jacked up the rear under the U-brace in front of the differential. Put the jack stands under the rear jack points and lowered the rear of the car onto the jack stands. Then I jacked the front of the car up under the right front point of the "frame rail" and put 2 jack stands under the front jack points and lowered the front.

First thing to do was to unscrew the fill plug. I used a T-45 socket and an 8mm combination wrench. The torque of this plug is 15 ft. lb (20nm), so using the open end was not enough to loosen it up, it kept coming off the torx bit. But I was successful with using the box end of the wrench inserted onto the torx bit and an extension for the additional leverage. The drain plug (T-40) presented no problem to unscrew, so in 10 minutes the oil was partially drained. Some still remained in the pan and inside the filter. At this point I put the drain plug back in and torqued it to 15 lb. ft. The next step was to remove the pan (unscrew all the bolts using a 10mm socket and pry it with the flat screwdriver if it's stuck), let all the remaining oil drip into the pan, remove the filter by pulling down on it with both hands, drain the oil in the pan and inside the filter into the drain container for the final estimate of the amount of evacuated oil. A note on the condition of the drained oil. The old oil was not completely black as many report. Definitely looked like a used oil after 85K but still retained some of its golden brownish color. If you compare it to a bright red AFT like Dex III or VI, it does look bad, but comparing it to fresh 8072B the difference is not that dramatic. I'm not sure about lifetime, but I got the impression it could easily last till 100K when BMW recommends it to be changed.

The amount of oil I was able to evacuate is as follows. The car was absolutely cold when I was doing the procedure. About 1.5 L drained after opening the fill plug. About 2.5 L came out with the drain plug removed. That's 4 liters. 1 litre was in the pan after I dropped it and waited till all the oil dripped into it from the filter. That's 5 litres. The old filter still contained about 0.25 L of oil when I removed it and tilted in the drain container. So the total amount was 5.25 L of oil.

The pan needs to be cleaned thoroughly. Mine did not look awful after 85K but still needed a good cleaning job, especially around the magnet. I used paper towels and a rag. When I removed the old gasket there was some rubber stuck to the edge of the pan. I removed it with some brake cleaner and then wiped dry with a rag. The idea is to not introduce any debris, lint, etc into the transmission.

It's time to replace the gasket lubing it with some ATF and start assembling everything back together. First goes in the new filter. When the old one came out the orange sealing ring is likely to have remained stuck in the transmission in which case it needs to be pried with a screwdriver, removed and discarded. With the new filter in place reattach the pan using new bolts. The torque of the bolts is 8 ft. lb, so there is hardly any need for a torque wrench but I did return to each bolt at least 3 times to make sure everything was tight.

Filling the transmission with new oil. The amount of oil I used to fill the transmission was 5.5 L, but the actual amount that came in was about the same as I drained - 5.25 L. This is due to the fact that no matter how careful you are during the filling process, there will be some spillage.

This is how my filling process looked like. 5.25 L of oil came out. The transmission was still cold when I started pumping the fresh fluid in. I filled my pump bottle with a pre-measured amount of 2 litres of new fluid at a time. 4 litres came in and it began overflowing. Some spillage occurred at this point. I screwed the fill plug back in (hand tight), started the car and shifted through the gears 5 times to let the oil get sucked into the transmission from the pan. In about 5-10 minutes the pan became warm to the touch. I opened the fill plug and nothing came out (as I expected, remember 5.25 L came out and only 4 L came in so far). I started pumping the oil again. Taking into consideration the amount spilled and the amount that would be spilled when it overflows this time I poured 1.5 L in my pump bottle instead of 1.25 L. The pan was becoming a little bit warmer but still far from hot, so I was still good. I was right in my estimate of the amount of oil spilled because when I was almost done with my bottle filled with 1.5 L it started overflowing and I put the fill plug back and tightened it really good using the extension on my 8mm combination wrench for additional leverage. That's it. Not a difficult but messy project.

If there is a tricky part about this DIY, that definitely would be to be able to estimate accurately the amount of oil spilled during the filling process. Provided the transmission never leaked and still has the original (filled at the factory) amount of fluid, the same amount needs to filled into it as drained. When the transmission is at the right temperature and the oil overflows, it's the indicator it's ready to be plugged up. However when it happens you still want to be sure the amount filled is the same the amount drained, provided last time it was filled at the factory. Such a simple thing as a transmission dip stick would eliminate the need for any guess work, but alas.

After I'm done with this DIY I've come to a couple of conclusions for myself. First, now I do not share the opinion that some people have that the information BMW gives us on the type of oil to use and its changing interval is a marketing conspiracy. To me ETL 8072B did look different than the red colored Dexron ATF. So I personally would not mix it with Dexron unless I know how to displace all the oil to the last drop and replace it with a different type. And, second, regarding the changing interval, judging by the condition of the drained oil that still remained some of its original color, I'd say it is good enough at least till 100K without a change.























EDIT: Ok, after reading this diy at least one person was confused as to when you need to put the fill plug back in. I agree I should have made this point clearer in the write-up. So here we go. The transmission is at the operating temperature (30 - 50 Cº) and you are doing the final fill. As soon as it starts overflowing - you are done and need to put the fill plug back in. Yes, there will be some oil spilling out, making a mess. That's fine. It means you've reached the correct level providing the temperature is still between 30 and 50 Cº. My advice is to have the drain pan ready and fill plug handy when overflowing happens. It took me a little while to get everything together so I plugged it up when the overflow was reduced to dripping. To me it seems better to do it when the oil is still trickling rather then dripping out. Also when the oil started overflowing I still had some a small amount of ATF that had to (according to my calculations) go in. So I kept on pumping for a little longer despite the fact that it was already overflowing and then when all ATF was used I put the fill plug in.
Hope this edit helps to clarify this point.
Kinda anal here...I did not and would not approach this your way!:eeps:
 

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In response..Yes I too have the GM 5 speed...it's a wagon...to date, I have 130k. Like you, I wanted to switch out old atf...but then I learned 6 would end it! Others posting have reported adverse responce from dexron 6.....BMW stamped a BLUE label ..to 5 spd...DO NOT CHANGE....and guess what?:yikes:
 

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"my car climbed Mt. Washington>>>>>====............***** WEEE....My Car hauls a trailer....many do but most do not!

No...Automatic transmissions do NOT have a leisure life. Add a penny-take a-penny....(don't buy a car with lots of 'take pennies'

Moral...question any car with a trailer hitch...or 'lead footed' Harley Davidson' mentality.:thumbs up:
 

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Thank you Starless.... for posting an accurate observation and examination for the GM 5L40E. After my understanding, learning, that the original designed atf..Texaco ETL 8072B, was no longer available for my 03 E46 wagon, I have elected not to do the filter and fluid change. My transmission seems perfect yet there is one anomaly. Upon first start in the morning, and after shifting to drive, there is a 'dry' moment before, 3 to 5 seconds upon gas pedal and drive. I have learned to wait a moment or so before applying any gas pedal...otherwise the engine will race up (momentarily) before catching in drive. To me, it is as if the atf is low and that it takes a moment for it to be sucked up. This does not recur ...until the next day..or when everything is stone cold once again. ...If my GM is low on fluid I know I cant top it off with anything less than the 'no longer available' Texaco ETL 8072B...Someone on these BMW forums suggested DEXRON 3?
 

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Redline D4 ATF has worked perfectly for me ('02 325xi). I did an oil and filter change at 110k miles and twice again since. Now I have 170k and it's always shifted perfectly. I understand that D4 is DEXRON 3-compatible. That's my input. To be sure, my transmission is the GM "...390" unit built in Strasburg, France. As for "topping off," I can't recommend one way or the other. If it was my car, I'd get the 6 quarts and the filter. Be warned that I'm not an expert mechanic...just a thoughtful and careful DIYer. Good luck. :)

...If my GM is low on fluid I know I cant top it off with anything less than the 'no longer available' Texaco ETL 8072B...Someone on these BMW forums suggested DEXRON 3?
 

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Redline D4 ATF has worked perfectly for me ('02 325xi). I did an oil and filter change at 110k miles and twice again since. Now I have 170k and it's always shifted perfectly. I understand that D4 is DEXRON 3-compatible. That's my input. To be sure, my transmission is the GM "...390" unit built in Strasburg, France. As for "topping off," I can't recommend one way or the other. If it was my car, I'd get the 6 quarts and the filter. Be warned that I'm not an expert mechanic...just a thoughtful and careful DIYer. Good luck. :)
Thanks for more input about the French GM. Dexron 4 compatible with Dexron 3...got it. My gut is to leave my GM alone. Yes, I know I should check the current fluid level...yet there is no evidence of leakage....so why should it be low of fluid? I am of the school..'if not broken, leave it alone'........:angel:
 

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I have the GM transmission and had my shop do a drain and fill at about 85k, using Dexron VI. I'm at 136k today, no problems whatsoever, and I'm planning on asking them to change it again. I don't doubt or discount others may have had issues, but I have not.
 
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