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Just joined the club. This puts me over the number of service visits required for lemon law buy back so i guess im out. This time im going with a manufacturer that provides vehicle service on a level appropriate for a 100k purchase. Vehicle Car Multimedia Personal luxury car Technology
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Adam, if you don't mind posting the mileage on your car would you please.

This thread makes me worry. I have 17K on my 750Li and had a check engine light, but I was messing with the pedal box.

So I turned it off, turned the car off, restarted and the light was gone.:eek:
The warranty I purchased specifically excludes failure due to carbon buildup...which means its probably worthless for an v8 BMW.
Which warranty was that? Was it through BMW?
Interesting read on the warm up, I've always done that on my trucks. I guess Ill pass on the 7.
Adam, if you don't mind posting the mileage on your car would you please.

This thread makes me worry. I have 17K on my 750Li and had a check engine light, but I was messing with the pedal box.

So I turned it off, turned the car off, restarted and the light was gone.:eek:
Under 10k miles!!:thumbdwn:
Which warranty was that? Was it through BMW?
It was a 3rd party warranty purchased through AAA, and underwritten by IWS.
They opened what's known as a PUMA case on mine at the moment. Sounds like they're going through the motions of replacing everything in the fuel system that they haven't already replaced - starting with the spark plugs and some fuel lines.
Got similar issue with mine again... Although my injectors and all plugs were replaced 7 months ago with 2 year warranty - let's hope that can be fixed under that warranty.
They opened what's known as a PUMA case on mine at the moment. Sounds like they're going through the motions of replacing everything in the fuel system that they haven't already replaced - starting with the spark plugs and some fuel lines.
Oh man...is BMWNA doing anything for you on your payments? Seems like your 7 is always in the shop.
Oh man...is BMWNA doing anything for you on your payments? Seems like your 7 is always in the shop.
It's usually only in there for a few days at a time, but having to stop what I'm doing to take it in and pick it up again is a frequent annoyance. I at first called BMW to complain about their service dept not doing enough to make sure things were fixed right the first time, since after the initial visit their first line of repair was tightening the oil cap :rolleyes:. After maybe the third visit I told them to buy it back or I'd call a lawyer. They had some woman leave me a voicemail saying that if I continue to have problems with the vehicle I should take it in to the dealer for service. I didn't appreciate that worthless response, so I handed it over to a lemon attorney that day. Now it's already had it's fifth visit that's required repairs, so the attorney said if they don't voluntarily buy it back this time it'll go to litigation. Since the mileage is low, it should result in the majority of my lease payments being returned to me according to the formula applied by california law which is based on the portion of miles accumulated divided by 100k miles.

Anyway, back to the status update on the car. They called me today to say that it's ready. They replaced all spark plugs and one of the injectors. SA also said something about a fuel line that I couldn't understand on the voicemail. I doubt this is a long term solution, as the injectors were all replaced a few k miles ago - so if one has already failed, I doubt the others have a long life ahead of them. Hoepfully the car won't be in my possession at that point, though. Nice car that I will miss, but **** service on both a national and local level that I will not.
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Hoepfully the car won't be in my possession at that point, though. Nice car that I will miss, but **** service on both a national and local level that I will not.
Any idea on a future car for you?
I didn't think they could replace just one injector, I thought they were a set
BTW, I thought I had posted the latest update on mine, The dealer drove it for 3 days after clearing the faults and could not get it to fail. last wed I picked the car up, have put 600 miles on it over the Thanksgiving weekend (drove it hard) and nothing! running like a champ.
I am beginning to believe this car needs to be driven hard to keep it running right
I didn't think they could replace just one injector, I thought they were a set
Yes, new injectors can be mixed if all others are index 11 or higher.

From ISTA:
Injectors with index 10 and lower have a different calibration and construction than injectors with index 11 and higher. Due to this difference, the injectors with index 10 and lower and injectors with index 11 and higher cannot be mixed in the same engine.
The index number can be found on the head of the injector after the BMW part number. Example: 13 53 8 616 079-11. "11" is the index number.
Picked up the vehicle. Shows that Cylinder was slightly wet with a wet crank case valve at bank 2. Replaced 1 injector, one decoupling element, 1 crank case vent pipe, 1 connecting line was rerouted, spark plugs replaced. This is in addition to all injectors being replaced in the past and both high pressure fuel pumps being replaced. Just scanned the service order and sent it to my attorney.

Popemt - thinking of going to the suv route this time. After checking the dependibility ratings, I'll probably go with either an escalade or a benz GL.
Popoemt - thinking of going to the suv route this time. After checking the dependibility ratings, I'll probably go with either an escalade or a benz GL.
Nice... Let us know which way you go, I like those GL's!
Picked up the vehicle. Shows that Cylinder was slightly wet with a wet crank case valve at bank 2. Replaced 1 injector, one decoupling element, 1 crank case vent pipe, 1 connecting line was rerouted, spark plugs replaced. This is in addition to all injectors being replaced in the past and both high pressure fuel pumps being replaced. Just scanned the service order and sent it to my attorney.

Popemt - thinking of going to the suv route this time. After checking the dependibility ratings, I'll probably go with either an escalade or a benz GL.
I'd take the 2015 Escalade over the GL. The GLs interior feels heavily outdated after stepping in the Esky. BTW, if you're going to get the Escalade, make sure it's the updated version with the new emblems, 8-speed transmission, Wi-Fi, etc.
Hi.So its my time to join the club.Is it possible to clean the injectors?I had my all injectors replaced under warranty one time,and now im out of warranty and 4 cylinder misfire...(pic attached) .So i called service,and they told me they will try to help me out(i dont know how but we will see)

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I'd take the 2015 Escalade over the GL. The GLs interior feels heavily outdated after stepping in the Esky. BTW, if you're going to get the Escalade, make sure it's the updated version with the new emblems, 8-speed transmission, Wi-Fi, etc.
Any specific aspects of the interior you noticed to be outdated? Seems like the GL has three trim levels when it comes to the interior leather for the GL450's, and the 550's just offer the top two levels. Doesn't seem like extended leather, leather dash etc. comes into play until you reach the top tier which is a 4500 dollar option - probably something I'd skip
I'd take the 2015 Escalade over the GL. The GLs interior feels heavily outdated after stepping in the Esky. BTW, if you're going to get the Escalade, make sure it's the updated version with the new emblems, 8-speed transmission, Wi-Fi, etc.
I'm diggin' the new cadi symbol... the front of the car looks pretty mean with it on there...
After reading the forum,found out that members recommending Techron.So i have problem with cylinder number 4.If im driving easy without pushing the pedal too much,all looks good,if i want to speed up gooood,thats the problem.So i will put this thing and lets see if it will solve the problem. :)
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