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that 321 hp Euro E36 M3 is a very serious automobile. A good buddy of mine has one and I had the opportunity to drive it once. Fast as a lightning.TD said:
I'm saving my pennies and I'm saving my dimes, but instead of a 409 maybe I'll eventually get a Euro motor for the M3.Alex Baumann said:
that 321 hp Euro E36 M3 is a very serious automobile. A good buddy of mine has one and I had the opportunity to drive it once. Fast as a lightning.
EXACTLYin_d_haus said:I asked about the E36 vs E46 for the track to a friend of mine who has not only owned both as well as many Porsches (currently has an E46 M3) but who is also a racer. He asked me "What are you buying? a street car or a race car?"
He went on "If you are buying a street car the E46 is the one" If you are buying a race car BOTH fall short... go buy a real race car."
Makes sense to me! :thumb:
yea, and this is funnyin_d_haus said:One of our clubs senior instructors talked to me about the E46 M3. He instructed in onw this past weekend. He said the car has such long legs that on the short and twisty course they never could wring it out. He did say due to the power the could go through 2nd gear corners in 3rd with no problem
Damn!! Effectively putting power down and keeping the rear end on track. What a shame! :tsk:That 100% trick diff. It is so good that it's becoming a bore sometimes. In my E36, I can induce oversteer at will with the go pedal. With the E46, you'll need to feed SO MUCH power to get it that the oversteer that you induce tend to be qutie unruly. And no, I don't drive with DSC on, just like I never drove with ASC+T on.
Well...The 100+ HP matters a lot.atyclb said:It's such a pig he was passing E36 M3's!
j/k TD
There ya go! :thumb:The HACK said:I mean compared to the E30 M3 his E36 M3 was a pig with crappy steering.
Count your blessings you NEVER have to ride with this guy or drive on the same freeways. Everytime I rode with him he attemps to show what a powerslide looks like in his car.nate328Ci said:
yea, and this is funny
Damn!! Effectively putting power down and keeping the rear end on track. What a shame! :tsk:
It doesn't suprise me that he was passing M5s. They only have a very slight power to weight advantage. The M5 is heavy and has an older design with an inferior LSD....I will be spending 2 days driving one at the track in a couple weeksThe HACK said:
Well...The 100+ HP matters a lot.
And I think he's right on the border of being a B student anyway, he was also passing up M5s at will on the track, and he's giving up another 70+ hp on the M5s.
I will have to agree with some of what he says. However, he's never driven the E30 M3, and I think that was the ultimate M car besides the M1. I mean compared to the E30 M3 his E36 M3 was a pig with crappy steering.
I'll take your word for itThe HACK said:
Count your blessings you NEVER have to ride with this guy or drive on the same freeways. Everytime I rode with him he attemps to show what a powerslide looks like in his car.
And HE thinks I drive too fast on surface streets. Yeah.
Exactly....in_d_haus said:I think the biggest thing that all the E36 -vs- E46 threads point out is that evernew model has to go through the sarcasm before it is accepted.
The E36 got flamed bad for years by the E30 purists. Now we are seeing that same thing with the E46. When the next M3 comes out the E46 crowd will slam it and point out why the E46 is better.... the cycle never ends.
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Couldn't agree more. I've had 2 C5's (and of course, a bunch of other cars like A4 1.8T Q, 325is (E36), Golf, Ranger, etc). The E46 M3 is, overall, the best sports car I've had... :thumb:in_d_haus said:I asked about the E36 vs E46 for the track to a friend of mine who has not only owned both as well as many Porsches (currently has an E46 M3) but who is also a racer. He asked me "What are you buying? a street car or a race car?"
He went on "If you are buying a street car the E46 is the one" If you are buying a race car BOTH fall short... go buy a real race car."
Makes sense to me! :thumb:
You know it! :thumb:nate328Ci said:
...110-140 is nothing for an M5 or M3 down a winding highway....
:thumb:ALEX325i said:
Couldn't agree more. I've had 2 C5's (and of course, a bunch of other cars like A4 1.8T Q, 325is (E36), Golf, Ranger, etc). The E46 M3 is, overall, the best sports car I've had... :thumb: