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i have taken apart the glove box and do not see any ews components this is whats under there.
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the one with the yellow plug is the EWS.

There is also the slip ring around your ignition barrel, and also another little module somewhere in between, can't remember where that is. Other than these three components, there is the little chip in your key, and the DME, and thats it to do with the EWS
 
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the one with the yellow plug is the EWS.

There is also the slip ring around your ignition barrel, and also another little module somewhere in between, can't remember where that is. Other than these three components, there is the little chip in your key, and the DME, and thats it to do with the EWS
mmmm ..... not quite sure on that Andy. He has a 94 model, so it is not EWS II. He has EWS I and the wiring diagrams in the Benetly show 2 different Alpine anti-theft systems; one for early production 94 and one for late production 94 (pages ELE-146 and ELE-147).

mw325im5o, what you will need to do is to compare the wiring diagrams to the number and color of wires for each module. I'm not sure, but I seem to remember reading that all that is required to bypass the EWS I is to cut the green wire (#66 IIRC) in the wiring bundle going to the DME. However - DON'T TAKE THAT AS GOSPEL. I'm just not nearly as familiar with EWS I as I am with EWS II. If you do choose to cut the wire, just make sure to leave enough on each end to splice them back if it doesn't solve your problem.

As a side, was doing a little research on EWS I delete and came across this which seems to make the EWS II delete much easier. If I understand it correctly, this would be for a car with a functioning original DME. It doesn't mention anything about replacing the DME (red label 413 or any other) :dunno:, so, perhaps it's easier than I thought. It would not have helped on my E36 because my DME was the problem, not the EWS.
 
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yea i have ELE-146 and ELE147 and do not see any grenn wire,but ELE-77 has pin#66 as green so i think i'll try at ecu harness wit the red label. and will repost a update as soon as i try. Thanks for the support everyone!
 
I have a quick question about the bypass. When you cut the black/brown and green/black wires which side gets spliced? The non ews side right and just cap off the 2 on the ews module. I'm still waiting for my red label to get here grrr. I ordered a silver and a red at the same time 8/6/13 the silver was coming from California and the red from Florida. I live in South Carolina. The silver arrived 8/8/13 and I'm still waiting on the red. Also the silver had a pretty good amount of corrosion and rust inside so it is being returned. Also Tim since you're running an older dme you can run performance chips for that dme now correct
 
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I have a quick question about the bypass. When you cut the black/brown and green/black wires which side gets spliced? The non ews side right and just cap off the 2 on the ews module. I'm still waiting for my red label to get here grrr. I ordered a silver and a red at the same time 8/6/13 the silver was coming from California and the red from Florida. I live in South Carolina. The silver arrived 8/8/13 and I'm still waiting on the red. Also the silver had a pretty good amount of corrosion and rust inside so it is being returned. Also Tim since you're running an older dme you can run performance chips for that dme now correct
Go to post #94 on page 4 of this thread. There is a crude diagram that I drew that answers this question the best.

In actuality, it's a good thing for you that the silver label DME was messed up. You could only use that DME if you had BMW re-synch everything with that DME.

Good luck on this and don't hesitate to PM me if I can be of any assistance.
 
Go to post #94 on page 4 of this thread. There is a crude diagram that I drew that answers this question the best.

In actuality, it's a good thing for you that the silver label DME was messed up. You could only use that DME if you had BMW re-synch everything with that DME.

Good luck on this and don't hesitate to PM me if I can be of any assistance.
Thanks BMR_LVR. I remembered seeing a drawing somewhere but with the countless hours searching and reading I couldn't remember where. Well it looks like I'm all set just waiting on the DME. I'm stoked.
 
mmmm ..... not quite sure on that Andy. He has a 94 model, so it is not EWS II. He has EWS I and the wiring diagrams in the Benetly show 2 different Alpine anti-theft systems; one for early production 94 and one for late production 94 (pages ELE-146 and ELE-147).

mw325im5o, what you will need to do is to compare the wiring diagrams to the number and color of wires for each module. I'm not sure, but I seem to remember reading that all that is required to bypass the EWS I is to cut the green wire (#66 IIRC) in the wiring bundle going to the DME. However - DON'T TAKE THAT AS GOSPEL. I'm just not nearly as familiar with EWS I as I am with EWS II. If you do choose to cut the wire, just make sure to leave enough on each end to splice them back if it doesn't solve your problem.

As a side, was doing a little research on EWS I delete and came across this which seems to make the EWS II delete much easier. If I understand it correctly, this would be for a car with a functioning original DME. It doesn't mention anything about replacing the DME (red label 413 or any other) :dunno:, so, perhaps it's easier than I thought. It would not have helped on my E36 because my DME was the problem, not the EWS.
That page starts off with the following words " Your ECU has had it***8217;s Immobilizer function removed. "

So it is most certainly not for a car with a functioning
original EWS DME. A silver label DME will need the ews delete chip swapped in, or an ews-absent red label m50 vanos dme would be required.

The use of the small jumper leads on the immobiliser plug instead of a cut and splice job, is pretty neat though. Cheap and idiot proof.

Even easier would be to stick a thick short wire into the two pin sockets 1 and 3 and tape or cable tie the jumper wire to the plug securely, after testing that it works to activate the starter.

That's the way it should be done and recommended henceforth for the EWS bypass.

You learn something new everyday, even from the mistakes of others. And there's always a way to simplify something further. As you sow your intentions, you must reap the results.
 
That page starts off with the following words " Your ECU has had it's Immobilizer function removed. "

So it is most certainly not for a car with a functioning
original EWS DME. A silver label DME will need the ews delete chip swapped in, or an ews-absent red label m50 vanos dme would be required.

The use of the small jumper leads on the immobiliser plug instead of a cut and splice job, is pretty neat though. Cheap and idiot proof.

Even easier would be to stick a thick short wire into the two pin sockets 1 and 3 and tape or cable tie the jumper wire to the plug securely, after testing that it works to activate the starter.

That's the way it should be done and recommended henceforth for the EWS bypass.

You learn something new everyday, even from the mistakes of others. And there's always a way to simplify something further. As you sow your intentions, you must reap the results.
I don't see how having wires jumped and cable tied together is better than heat shrink butt splice connectors or even regular butt splice connectors.
 
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Ok so now it seems my starer is making a clicking noise but won't spin over
Usually a sign of lack of voltage to the starter (such as in bad ground or low battery) or a bad starter.
 
Ok so I got my red label today and the car stared. It's running very rough barely idles and will stall out unless I hold the gas a little. Also the coil started smoking while running. I shut the car off and it stopped. Turn the ignition on car not running and it starts again like melted plastic on the seam above no 1 plug wire. I'm gonna do some research but it looks like a boil coil and plugs are gonna be ordered. I just wanted to let everyone know the delete/bypass worked. Thanks bmw_lvr and ttaylo036
 
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Ok so I got my red label today and the car stared. It's running very rough barely idles and will stall out unless I hold the gas a little. Also the coil started smoking while running. I shut the car off and it stopped. Turn the ignition on car not running and it starts again like melted plastic on the seam above no 1 plug wire. I'm gonna do some research but it looks like a boil coil and plugs are gonna be ordered. I just wanted to let everyone know the delete/bypass worked. Thanks bmw_lvr and ttaylo036
My (and I'm sure his as well) pleasure. Glad you at least got it running :thumbup:
 
fix a girl's car, she'll drive for a day, teach a girl to do it herself, she'll drive

hey guys! im a new member here, and completely unexperienced in any kind of auto repair... ive always wanted to be able to work on and fix my own but most guys just wanna get it done and over with, than to teach a girl how... but after TOO many shade tree mechanics only making things worse and lack of know-how, or want-to from any trusted go-tos...i decided to try to figure this mess out myself.. ive been back to this post probably 10times... ive had pretty much the exact same thing happen with mine, with the addition of a couple strange -but minor- electrical precursors... and i felt like i kind of had an idea of how to go about it... so, obviously since its been under shade trees and ive cashed in all my big favors... money is an issue. ive been without a ride for almost 5 months... i figured 5 months loss was definitely worth a $30 gamble on ebay for the dme. now that i have it, and am reading this again, i notice the part about the "deletion chip"... im assuming i need to buy this too?... then how do i program the key i already have? or can i?

ill just admit this is really hard for me to post, because i have a pretty hard time accepting the fact that i cant wrap my head around something, but theres ALOT to take in here, for a newbie.. just kind of hoping someone would be kind enough to break it down for me, simplify ALL this. Dumb it down, if you will :) im in WAY over my head!
any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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