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This is the car with the shortest turning radius I ever owned. Very convenient.

I wondered if there are FWD cars out there with the same turning radius.
 

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I have an E46 and my wife has a MINI. The MINI has a poor turning radius compared with the (awesome) E46. I think things just got too crowded under the hood for the MINI, I've had FWD Hondas which are much better.

But no question, the E46 owns all, the radius is fantastic! :thumbup:
 

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Living in Florida (no snow) and being that soon all cars will have stability control, I'll probably never own an AWD or FWD car if I can help it.
 

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My Datsun 510 RWD with unassisted turning was THE best I had, though because it had no assist, it must have been at least 4 turns LtL.

The London taxi is well-known for its tight turning circle, and I assume these days those are FWD.
 

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Not with a "6", but some of the 4 cylinder ones. My V6 Eclipse was about 42'. You learn not to u-turn if you can help it.

Other nice thing about RWD...if you want to turn even tighter, just switch off DSC and boot it. :)

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This is the car with the shortest turning radius I ever owned. Very convenient.

I wondered if there are FWD cars out there with the same turning radius.
 

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On AWD and FWD cars, you have half-shafts going to the front wheels to drive them through CV joints. I would theorize that the CV joints have a limited angle they can still reliably transmit power at, and so the maximum steering angle of FWD and AWD cars is limited by such. Note that the AWD E46 also has a slightly larger turning radius than the RWD E46.
 

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AWD is tight

My 325 XI is tight when it comes to turning.

So I am not sure if it is equal to the 325 I; but I know it still beats others.
 

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IMHO, the tight turning radius is a BMW trait. I've owned and driven many FWD/RWD/AWD street and race cars over my 34 years of driving and BMW tighest turning radius of ever driven.

Regards....JL
 

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Actually according to Edmunds, the IS300 has a shorter turning radius. So do the Prius and Echo, front-drivers.
 

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That was what I understood as to why the "new" V6 installation in the Eclipse killed the turning radius.

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On AWD and FWD cars, you have half-shafts going to the front wheels to drive them through CV joints. I would theorize that the CV joints have a limited angle they can still reliably transmit power at, and so the maximum steering angle of FWD and AWD cars is limited by such. Note that the AWD E46 also has a slightly larger turning radius than the RWD E46.
 

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You all don't think it has anything to do with the fact that FWD cars have transverse mount engines, limiting the space in which the wheels can physically turn freely?
 

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You all don't think it has anything to do with the fact that FWD cars have transverse mount engines, limiting the space in which the wheels can physically turn freely?
I've always assumed it was a space issue. The wheel wouldn't have enough room to keep turning. But then I don't know sh1t. :)
 

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There are many factors that contribute to the turning radius. You cannot generalize based on the drivetrain layout, except in the broadest sense.

My 98 A4 has a very similar turning radius as my 03 330, for example. My 95 Jetta VR6 was very similar as well. I think it's a European thing where tight roads and even tighter traffic mandate a good turning radius.

I have observed that in general, Japanese cars are the worst in the US, followed by US cars.

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My CRX turned in a much tighter radius than my E46. :dunno:
 

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MINI Cooper turning radius: 34.8 ft.
E46 330i turning radius: 34.4 ft.
 

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Other nice thing about RWD...if you want to turn even tighter, just switch off DSC and boot it. :)
But turning DSC off will cause the end of the Western Civilization, and the car will self destruct. :yikes: :p

DSC sucks. :thumbdwn:
 
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