Flashing ECU's with E-sys [GUIDE]

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zkiifreak

Discussion Starter · Nov 28, 2014 (Edited)

Hi

I've created a noobs guide on how to flash your ECU's in an F11. (As I myself am a noob

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I'm looking to flash my HU_CIC very soon (just need an external power supply). So i've created this guide from information I could gather on this forum. A warm thanks to everybody in this forum, especially shawnsheridan.

If you want to contribute, please let me know! I'll be happy to add valuable content!

Content attached!

Update 20141129: Removed changing zeitkriterium. Thank you ap90500!! Now version 1.0.1 attached.

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ap90500

· #2 · Nov 28, 2014 (Edited)

There is a major mistake in the guide. Never ever change zeitkriterium if you are flashing factory fitted modules.

No need to click read vin button, vin comes from the FA.

On new cars (7/2014 F30) the ignition will not stay on even if you turn light switch. After 15 minutes or so ignition will turn off. This is not a problem though, just remember to cycle ignition before svt soll calculation and before starting TAL processing (actual flash). Ignition will stay on as long as the TAL is running.

ibadeploy is needed only if you are flashing a headunit that has IBA (electronic user manual). It doesn't do any damage if it is selected without a reason though.

Terminology. Flashing = programming = updating software. Coding = changing parameters via fdl- or vo-coding.

It is not necessary to flash ZGW separately, e-sys will flash it first.

Connection via gateway doesn't guarantee that the ZGW can be flashed with E-sys. If it fails, you must just vo-code any module and the car will wake up. I think that someone wrote something about dhcp-server needed to flash zgw with enet, but on the other hand some people have flashed it without dhcp and without problems. I was not able to flash ZGW on 2011 F11, with icom no problem.

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TokenMaster

· #3 · Nov 28, 2014

Changing zeitkriterium and VO coding ECUs like FEM or ICM would cause havoc due to different hardware used between build dates

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ap90500

· #4 · Nov 28, 2014

Worst cases I have seen: Wrong zeitkriterium, calculate svt soll, hwid from svt actual, start flash. This creates very nice mess.

zkiifreak

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 29, 2014

ap90500 said:
There is a major mistake in the guide. Never ever change zeitkriterium if you are flashing factory fitted modules.

OK - thanks. Corrected by removing from guide.

ap90500 said:
No need to click read vin button, vin comes from the FA.

Yeah, I assumed that, but it works, so I'll leave it be. But thanks

ap90500 said:
On new cars (7/2014 F30) the ignition will not stay on even if you turn light switch. After 15 minutes or so ignition will turn off. This is not a problem though, just remember to cycle ignition before svt soll calculation and before starting TAL processing (actual flash). Ignition will stay on as long as the TAL is running.

OK. I'll add this in an appendix.

ap90500 said:
ibadeploy is needed only if you are flashing a headunit that has IBA (electronic user manual). It doesn't do any damage if it is selected without a reason though.

Thanks - again, will add appendix. But it's just easier to write it this way.

ap90500 said:
Terminology. Flashing = programming = updating software. Coding = changing parameters via fdl- or vo-coding.

You are referring to the Troubleshooting part?

ap90500 said:
It is not necessary to flash ZGW separately, e-sys will flash it first.

As stated

ap90500 said:
Connection via gateway doesn't guarantee that the ZGW can be flashed with E-sys. If it fails, you must just vo-code any module and the car will wake up. I think that someone wrote something about dhcp-server needed to flash zgw with enet, but on the other hand some people have flashed it without dhcp and without problems. I was not able to flash ZGW on 2011 F11, with icom no problem.

Is it possible for you to find this post?

Again: thank you very much for the input. It's very much appreciated! The idea here is to make it easier for beginners to take on this kind job and be succesfull!

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ap90500

· #6 · Nov 29, 2014 (Edited)

Yes, I meant the troubleshooting part. It should say "if flashing (or programming) ACSM, ....". You will not need to lock ACSM if you are just coding it.

Posted on bmwcoding dot com:

Vinzer995 said:
for flashing ZGW you need an ICOM interface.

PhreakShow said:
Not in general. I flashed at least four ZGW over ethernet.

shawnsheridan said:
Same here, and also used ENET for FEM_GW Flash.

ap90500 said:
How about F1x ZGW?

shawnsheridan said:
Yes, I have Flashed F1x ZGW with ENET too.

ap90500 said:
Did you unselect switch gateway to programming & coding or did you just use normal settings? And you connected through gateway?

shawnsheridan said:
Normal settings. Connect via VIN.

ap90500 said:
Ok. On my previous car (9/2011 F11), this failed and I had to use ICOM. Do you use static ip on your ethernet adapter?

shawnsheridan said:
No. It was set for DHCP.

2real4u said:
Use DHCP server on the network or on your laptop. Connect using the gateway URL to the IP handed out by DHCP.

I have not tested it but very likely it works. Tftpd64 is a free software that has DHCP functionality.

Thanks for you too, flashing procedure has been known for a long time but no one (including me) has not had time or will to do this kind of guide.

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hamfei

· #7 · Apr 20, 2015

very helpful discussion. A nice document. Thanks so much to you guys***65281;

Depa

· #8 · Aug 20, 2015

Thanks

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wild_a

· #9 · Feb 25, 2016

I'm thinking about flashing ECUs on my F10. I have 2 questions: 1) instead of an external battery, can I just keep the engine running? 2) are there any benefits to upgrading the ECUs?

shawnsheridan

· #10 · Feb 25, 2016

wild_a said:
I'm thinking about flashing ECUs on my F10. I have 2 questions: 1) instead of an external battery, can I just keep the engine running? 2) are there any benefits to upgrading the ECUs?

No you cannot run the motor. Flash TAL will put car in Transport Mode and shut down the Engine automatically.

Benefit depends solely on the current ECU firmware versus the new ECU firmware if it contains anything beneficial.

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wild_a

· #11 · Feb 25, 2016

shawnsheridan said:
No you cannot run the motor. Flash TAL will put car in Transport Mode and shut down the Engine automatically.

Benefit depends solely on the current ECU firmware versus the new ECU firmware if it contains anything beneficial.

Thanks Shawn. What charger would you recommend?

shawnsheridan

· #12 · Feb 25, 2016

wild_a said:
Thanks Shawn. What charger would you recommend?

Schumacher INC-700A 4/20/70 Amp Automatic Charger

http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-INC-700A-Amp-Automatic-Charger/dp/B002Z2Z7ZY

ArrZeeM

· #13 · Feb 26, 2016

just asking out of curiosity, if the DDE already have done a remapping for more power, does whole car firmware upgrade affect the performance mapping?

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wild_a

· #14 · Feb 26, 2016

shawnsheridan said:
Schumacher INC-700A 4/20/70 Amp Automatic Charger

http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-INC-700A-Amp-Automatic-Charger/dp/B002Z2Z7ZY

That's quite expensive. Would this one work for the job? http://www.amazon.com/BMW-advanced-battery-charging-system/dp/B00N55PDUY

shawnsheridan

· #15 · Feb 26, 2016

wild_a said:
That's quite expensive. Would this one work for the job? http://www.amazon.com/BMW-advanced-battery-charging-system/dp/B00N55PDUY

No, that is only 1.25 Amps. You need to have about 50 Amps minimum.

wild_a

· #16 · Feb 26, 2016

shawnsheridan said:
No, that is only 1.25 Amps. You need to have about 50 Amps minimum.

How about this one? It's a Schumacher, and has 50 amps. I have no idea about these things, so if you can tell me why the $500 one is better than this $50 one, I'd be thankful.

shawnsheridan

· #17 · Feb 26, 2016 (Edited)

wild_a said:
How about this one? It's a Schumacher, and has 50 amps. I have no idea about these things, so if you can tell me why the $500 one is better than this $50 one, I'd be thankful.

I think that is only a 50 Amps Peak for Starting, and is either 2 or 10 Amp Continuous. The Schumacher INC-700A is 50 Amps continuous.

If you want, you can jump your car to another car with motor running, and avoid using a charger at all.

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Harti79

· #18 · Jul 15, 2016

Hi together,

I just wanted to flash the newest ECU Firmware for HU_CIC and CMB_Media and for that installed the latest E-Sys and psdzdata. I connected to the car successfully and coding works find (just tried it as I did that before to verify everything is working.
And to answer the question before it is asked: Why do I want to update the ECUs?!? :rofl:
I have a lot of problems with my CIC, sometimes the navigation doesnt work, once a day it restarts when I try to use Spotify using the App in the car,...
I have borrowed a big supply charger from a friend of mine, so everything is prepared, BUT...

Now I have two problems/questions:
1.) My E-Sys states in the bottom status field that "Hardware differs" (Hardware unterscheidet sich)... WTF?!? I have never seen this before, any hint what this might be?
2.) I finished all the described steps and tried to flash the ZGW only first. But when I press started I get a message (translated from germany as good as I can!

):
A VCM-update after the TAL-Processing without correct VO is not possible. If the ECM should be updated after TAL-Processing you will have to diable VCM-updating or use a direct connection to ECU.
The message will allways pop up, doesnt matter which ECU I choose or which connection type I use (Gateway vs. VIN).

Any idea what this might be? Related to 1.? ;-)

Cheers, Philipp

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Harti79

· #19 · Jul 15, 2016

Okay, finally got it working, I had to choose the VIN from the VO and not read it for any reason, now flashing works fine... ;-)
Anyway if there is a hint for my first question I would sleep better!

Harti79

· #20 · Jul 15, 2016

Hmmm, once again I am facing a problem... I flashed ZGW and for testing TRSVC successfully but CMB_MEDIA or KOMBI fail with an error message
"for the ECU "KOMBI", "60" in TAL the SGBMIN "CAFD_000000069_009_001_006" is included but not in SVT. Same type of message comes for CMB_MEDIA with different CAFD numer of cause...
And it seems that for HU_CIC there is now new version available. So what do you think, is it worth working on it or doesn't it have any influence for my Spotify and navigation problems without update for CIC? :-(

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