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Oh. I thought he was in Austin and getting from Austin dealer.
Am in Austin, dealership is in Arizona. Only place I could find the exact car I wanted and get the deal I wanted. The car, I believe, is being shipped from Germany to AZ, then being shipped from AZ to me. Is it a reasonable ask to see if maybe they can ship the car directly from port of entry to Austin instead of the extra stop to minimize risk of damage to the car?

Also, financing was all approved! Meat is still not in the pan but it's on its way!
 

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Am in Austin, dealership is in Arizona. Only place I could find the exact car I wanted and get the deal I wanted. The car, I believe, is being shipped from Germany to AZ, then being shipped from AZ to me. Is it a reasonable ask to see if maybe they can ship the car directly from port of entry to Austin instead of the extra stop to minimize risk of damage to the car?

Also, financing was all approved! Meat is still not in the pan but it's on its way!
Sounds like things are moving along nicely.

The way BMW logistics works is very, very German. The staging and loading sequence of vehicles is determined based on the offloading sequence at journey's end. So, if the ship that is scheduled to transport your car stops in the Gulf and off-loads your car, then, perhaps, ground transport can take it directly to the Austin dealer.

But, if your car is scheduled to be offloaded on the Pacific coast, that could be even more complicated.

Also, whichever BMW dealer receives the car from the vehicle processing center is then responsible for prepping the car for retail delivery. If the Austin dealer does the pre-delivery prep, then they are also responsible for the condition of the car, etc.

It's one thing for the Austin dealer to receive a car from the Arizona dealer and then hand you the keys as a courtesy. But who is doing the BMW-required delivery to you, with the BMW Genius briefing you on the car's features and all of the things on the BMWNA required checklist?

So, a simple question to the selling dealer in Arizona would be: How are we handling the delivery?

Once the logistics are clear, like which is the port of arrival and who "owns" the delivery, then options for drop-shipping from the port directly to Austin can be explored.

My 2 cents is let the Arizona dealer handle it the way they want to because, if there's a problem with the car (paint, prep, etc) you don't want to hear, "Well, we did the delivery the way you wanted and you need to talk to Austin about that scratch because we never touched the car." And then Austin says, "Hey, we just did this as a courtesy. Arizona owns any QC issues."

So, what's the scheduled port of entry?
Is there a way for the car to go directly from the port to Austin?

And then there's the wild option of:
Is there an easy way to ground my Infiniti in Arizona? If so, could be a road trip, in the era of COVID...:eek:
 

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guys (and gals), he already got a deal he likes and agreed to, along with the shipping from the AZ dealer to him. Other than verifying that "I would like a covered carrier for delivery" or something, I dont feel he should be revisiting anything else at this point. Hes already "said yes" and so did the decision maker he was talking to.
 

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Am in Austin, dealership is in Arizona. Only place I could find the exact car I wanted and get the deal I wanted. The car, I believe, is being shipped from Germany to AZ, then being shipped from AZ to me. Is it a reasonable ask to see if maybe they can ship the car directly from port of entry to Austin instead of the extra stop to minimize risk of damage to the car?

Also, financing was all approved! Meat is still not in the pan but it's on its way!
Are you dealing with a Henry Male there? He is a personal friend at BMW N Scottsdale who I have bought a few BMWs from...very good guy...straight shooter!
 

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Sounds like things are moving along nicely.

The way BMW logistics works is very, very German. The staging and loading sequence of vehicles is determined based on the offloading sequence at journey's end. So, if the ship that is scheduled to transport your car stops in the Gulf and off-loads your car, then, perhaps, ground transport can take it directly to the Austin dealer.

But, if your car is scheduled to be offloaded on the Pacific coast, that could be even more complicated.

Also, whichever BMW dealer receives the car from the vehicle processing center is then responsible for prepping the car for retail delivery. If the Austin dealer does the pre-delivery prep, then they are also responsible for the condition of the car, etc.

It's one thing for the Austin dealer to receive a car from the Arizona dealer and then hand you the keys as a courtesy. But who is doing the BMW-required delivery to you, with the BMW Genius briefing you on the car's features and all of the things on the BMWNA required checklist?

So, a simple question to the selling dealer in Arizona would be: How are we handling the delivery?

Once the logistics are clear, like which is the port of arrival and who "owns" the delivery, then options for drop-shipping from the port directly to Austin can be explored.

My 2 cents is let the Arizona dealer handle it the way they want to because, if there's a problem with the car (paint, prep, etc) you don't want to hear, "Well, we did the delivery the way you wanted and you need to talk to Austin about that scratch because we never touched the car." And then Austin says, "Hey, we just did this as a courtesy. Arizona owns any QC issues."

So, what's the scheduled port of entry?
Is there a way for the car to go directly from the port to Austin?

And then there's the wild option of:
Is there an easy way to ground my Infiniti in Arizona? If so, could be a road trip, in the era of COVID...:eek:
Arizona cars land at Oxnard and are trucked from there. I tracked my last car from the factory to the exit port in Germany to Oxnard to my dealership in North Scottsdale. I doubt you will be able to change the delivery point from Oxnard.
 

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guys (and gals), he already got a deal he likes and agreed to, along with the shipping from the AZ dealer to him. Other than verifying that "I would like a covered carrier for delivery" or something, I dont feel he should be revisiting anything else at this point. Hes already "said yes" and so did the decision maker he was talking to.


Once again, I agree with JJ. The deal is already worked out, the OP should just leave it alone and let the dealer ship it to his house as agreed in the deal. That is, unless OP wants to fly to AZ, take delivery in-person and drive home. He can do 1k miles in two days. FWIW, with the COVID situation, I would rather the car be shipped to my front door.


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Arizona cars land at Oxnard and are trucked from there. I tracked my last car from the factory to the exit port in Germany to Oxnard to my dealership in North Scottsdale. I doubt you will be able to change the delivery point from Oxnard.


You are correct. Unless things have changed, the dealer cannot change the scheduled port of entry once the car is in transit from Germany.


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My 2 cents is let the Arizona dealer handle it the way they want to because, if there's a problem with the car (paint, prep, etc) you don't want to hear, "Well, we did the delivery the way you wanted and you need to talk to Austin about that scratch because we never touched the car." And then Austin says, "Hey, we just did this as a courtesy. Arizona owns any QC issues."
I think we're all in agreement.
 

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guys (and gals), he already got a deal he likes and agreed to, along with the shipping from the AZ dealer to him. Other than verifying that "I would like a covered carrier for delivery" or something, I dont feel he should be revisiting anything else at this point. Hes already "said yes" and so did the decision maker he was talking to.
I disagree, it is business (respectful). If there is a misunderstanding (major) on some point I'm going to get clarified/changed. Plus I don't think anything in writing yet on this deal.
 

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Just want to say how much I***8217;ve enjoyed reading this thread. I***8217;m new to the forum, but a long time bimmer fan. Greg, JJ and 1968, you guys are amazing.

Similar to OP, I***8217;m thirsting for an M340, but nowhere near ready to take the plunge. Rather I***8217;m living vicariously through and learning from his experience. I hope you don***8217;t mind if I ping you for some wisdom or maybe talking me off the ledge later in the year.
 

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Since you were doing an out of state deal you could have got another $2.5k off the purchase price. Even for a custom order. There's always next time!
 

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Since you were doing an out of state deal you could have got another $2.5k off the purchase price. Even for a custom order. There's always next time!
Where would that $2,500 come from? If it's an additional available incentive, it can still be added to OP's deal as the car has yet to be delivered. Hasn't even arrived at the port yet.

Please elaborate.
 

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Where would that $2,500 come from? If it's an additional available incentive, it can still be added to OP's deal as the car has yet to be delivered. Hasn't even arrived at the port yet.

Please elaborate.
Well, this guy posted the below about his own car dealing experiences...so beware! :rofl:

we got a $24000 camry, put 10k down, and we were paying $555 a month @60 months with all the extras and things they packaged in without telling us (packed it into the stated monthly payment)

we got rid of the car a year later and had negative equity so we had to shell out a couple k
 

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Can you explain this comment for us newbs? Is that an AZ-specific issue or is that universal?
I live in Arizona and I am not aware of any specific Arizona benefits vs. Texas. On my prior car, my dealership found it in Utah and I had to pay the shipping charge for the dealerships to ship it from Utah to North Scottsdale. All the pricing incentives were standard or simply negotiated with the dealership. Nothing special to Arizona.
 

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Well, this guy posted the below about his own car dealing experiences...so beware! :rofl:

we got a $24000 camry, put 10k down, and we were paying $555 a month @60 months with all the extras and things they packaged in without telling us (packed it into the stated monthly payment)

we got rid of the car a year later and had negative equity so we had to shell out a couple k
Yeah and I was 17, that was my single mother who got the vehicle and negotiated with monthly payment. For purchase. Then I learned how to negotiate and handled all future vehicles (I'm 26 now). Leased many cars since then all 0 down tax included: 535i (610/mo), 535d (519/mo, 328d (399/mo), i8 (1100/mo), giulia ti (468/mo), 430i gc (380/mo), 330i (311/mo) and many more

I love how you picked that out when I posted this lease deal I negotiated and signed (was a demo):

MSRP: $52925
Sales Price: $39925
MF: .00138
15k/year

Car has 2800 miles on it.

Drive off: $414
Monthly payment: $414 (including 9% sales tax).

As for the extra 4%, not hard to get it from a motivated dealer. Even our Jon Shafer went 2.5k back of invoice before incentives on a vehicle we leased before. I know a couple advertising 11-12% off on all custom BMW orders on other forums.

You're really mad just cause I told op he left money on the table for next time? lol..
 

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Where would that $2,500 come from? If it's an additional available incentive, it can still be added to OP's deal as the car has yet to be delivered. Hasn't even arrived at the port yet.

Please elaborate.
There's several dealers offering 11-12% on custom orders and in stock vehicles. Advertised on other forums. Just using that as a baseline for now. Even if you factor in shipping, OP comes out ahead regardless.
 

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There's several dealers offering 11-12% on custom orders and in stock vehicles. Advertised on other forums. Just using that as a baseline for now. Even if you factor in shipping, OP comes out ahead regardless.
So, this "extra $2500" you are talking about is a "spitball" number based on "discount you think the OP should get" vs some additional rebate for purchasing out of state or something, which is what it sounded like when you first posted it.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 

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Well, this guy posted the below about his own car dealing experiences...so beware! <img src="http://s1.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gif" border="0" alt="" title="ROFL" class="inlineimg" />

we got a $24000 camry, put 10k down, and we were paying $555 a month @60 months with all the extras and things they packaged in without telling us (packed it into the stated monthly payment)

we got rid of the car a year later and had negative equity so we had to shell out a couple k
Yeah and I was 17, that was my single mother who got the vehicle and negotiated with monthly payment. For purchase. Then I learned how to negotiate and handled all future vehicles (I'm 26 now). Leased many cars since then all 0 down tax included: 535i (610/mo), 535d (519/mo, 328d (399/mo), i8 (1100/mo), giulia ti (468/mo), 430i gc (380/mo), 330i (311/mo) and many more

I love how you picked that out when I posted this lease deal I negotiated and signed (was a demo):

MSRP: $52925
Sales Price: $39925
MF: .00138
15k/year

Car has 2800 miles on it.

Drive off: $414
Monthly payment: $414 (including 9% sales tax).

As for the extra 4%, not hard to get it from a motivated dealer. Even our Jon Shafer went 2.5k back of invoice before incentives on a vehicle we leased before. I know a couple advertising 11-12% off on all custom BMW orders on other forums.

You're really mad just cause I told op he left money on the table for next time? lol..
Not mad at all. Your wording on original post was just poor/confusing.
 
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