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In another forum, I read that there are "fake HID bulbs"... but then it said that there are 55/60W bulbs like this. Has anyone used these and do they work well? My dad had HID bulbs in his Porsche and the heat from the bulbs melted the plastic on the inside of the headlight housing because they were normal headlight housings, not HID. When they were in, they worked really well, you could tell a big difference when he replaced the headlights and put standard bulbs back in (the HID's were much better) so the plastic wouldn't melt again. Anyone have this happen with their Bimmers? Thanks guys. :D
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Alvizzo913 said:
In another forum, I read that there are "fake HID bulbs"... but then it said that there are 55/60W bulbs like this. Has anyone used these and do they work well? My dad had HID bulbs in his Porsche and the heat from the bulbs melted the plastic on the inside of the headlight housing because they were normal headlight housings, not HID. When they were in, they worked really well, you could tell a big difference when he replaced the headlights and put standard bulbs back in (the HID's were much better) so the plastic wouldn't melt again. Anyone have this happen with their Bimmers? Thanks guys. :D
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Muculloch HID Kit with HID low beam bulbs installed on 1998 328i 4-Door Sedan. It's been about a year with no melted BMW light housing.

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Yeah Ive heard of them melting too but very few times. Your best bet is just buying the glass headlamps that come with the HID bulbs They are the European stlye I think. Anyways they cost like 500 bucks so if you are gonna spend like 300 on HID might as well go the extra mile right?

Besides the glass look F#$% tight.
 

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Yeah Ive heard of them melting too but very few times. Your best bet is just buying the glass headlamps that come with the HID bulbs They are the European stlye I think. Anyways they cost like 500 bucks so if you are gonna spend like 300 on HID might as well go the extra mile right?

Besides the glass look F#$% tight.

Like he said replace your headlights first with some zkw's and the get the HID's

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I am looking to upgrade my headlights....the low beams for my 97 328 and I'm a Bimmer noob. Does anyone know of some good quality bulbs that are BRIGHTER than stock? and if so would I need to get new housings too cause I've heard of them melting and I don't want that. :D Does anyone know of where I could find a chart of what kind of bulbs I have?

Thanks for the help....Ronnaferd
 

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I don't have the $$ to fork over for a HID Conversion kit, let alone Halogen Projectors, but my headlights suck right now, so I need something...I'm just looking to see how much of a difference these "fake bulbs" actually make, I see them for reallly cheap, but my one concern is the wattage. The low beams in my car right now are 51 Watt 9006 bulbs and the high beams are 60 Watt 9005 bulbs. I only see 55 Watt 9006 bulbs and 65 Watt 9005 bulbs. Will these work or will they mess things up?
 

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Actually those "fake" bulb are worse then the stock bulb. Most of those bulb are tinted with blue dye to give them the "HID" look.

I would recommend you spend alittle and get yourself some Euro Ellipsoid that comes with an H1 bulbs. Those are alot brighter then the U.S headlights. Price for the Ellipsoid range from $145 to $500, depending on the brand. You should get Depo's or Inpro's Ellipsoid, there cheaper then ZKW's or Bosch's.
 

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THEY ARE THESE ONES
Hella EURO XENON Angel Eye Headlight Kit
If you're looking for the highest quality E36 Angel-Eye headlights available, these are the ones. NOW WITH XENON! These are made by the company that started the entire craze! These lights are made by OEM Headlight supplier to BMW, HELLA, the same company that makes the E39 5 series angel eye lights that come from the factory! Not only do you get superior HELLA quality and perfect fit and finish, these HELLA Euro Ellipsoid headlight set features; circular CELIS ®-clearance lights (angle eye), brilliant optics with high polish-vaporized reflector, equipped with the brightest LED's for a super-white appearance, efficient Xenon and H7 halogen lamps. These rings are the brightest we have ever seen. This is a pre-assembled kit, not a retro-fit kit that requires you crack open your headlight assemblies to install anything! Expect a simple and problem-free installation. Fits E36 Cabrio, Compact (ti), Sedan, Touring, Coupé (all E36 models). Note: will not work with Dinan intake. Kit includes the following:
Two Complete Euro Ellipsoid Headlight Assemblies with Super- Bright Celis LED Angel Eye Rings.
2 D2S Xenon Bulbs for low beam, 2 H7 Halogen high beam bulbs
2 Transformers,
Ultrasonic headlight leveling system
9005/9006 USA "Plug and Play" Wiring Harness (Plug 9005, 9006 connectors right in, no splicing required!).
Euro H1 Screw-on Type Wiring Harness Connector (Plug your Euro headlights harness right in, no splicing required!).
Two "Quick Connect" connectors to connect Angel Eye Celis Rings right up to the parking lights.
Complete and detailed instructions with detailed diagrams.
This is a pre-assembled kit, not a retro fit kit that requires you crack open your headlight assemblies to install anything!
Unrivaled Hella quality, fit and finish that is also featured on the E39 5 series right from the factory!
*European spec lights for offroad or track use only, these are not DOT approved
 

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I have used PIAA brand bulbs now for the past 5 years in all my vehicles from my 911 to my 323. They are 55w but output 125w of 4700k white light. Closest thing you will get to HID. I installed them into my angle eye lights and 200% improvement!!!! Just my two cents.
 

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Improved Lighting

Best lighting I can suggest with the stock 9005 and 9006 bulbs is to go to the HIR bulbs first manufactured by GE and now by Toshiba. Here is a link to a guy who sells them:
http://finemotoring.com/

I have these in my current M-3 and have replacement ellipsoids with 4300K HIDs which I will swap out. I can tell you that PIAAs, Silver Stars don't compare. I know I have them all and tried them all. The HIRs are about an honest 30% better than any bulb I have tested.

BMW mag (Roundel) had one of the members do a study of all types of bulbs. I think this was SEP-NOV 05 if you can find the issues.

Nothing does as good a job as the HIDs I have because they have projectors and the HIDs are 3 times the lux of the stock bulb. For what it is worth they are cooler in temp then the halogen. What causes most of the HID melting is becuase the bulb is not positioned in the same location as were the replacements.

Here is how I would rate them based upon the article provided in the Roundel
HIDs
HIRs
Silver Star/PIAAs
Stock
 
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