[JST]

Well, "smacked down" is probably a bit of an overstatement. But I did manage to jsut barely beat a well-driven 2002 at the most recent DC area autocross by less than half-a-second. In talking to the driver, the car is basically stock, with an updated head and new carb being the only engine mods.

My car: 240 hp, 3500 lbs.

His car: 110 hp, 1900 lbs.

Bigger and more expensive is not always better at the autocross (though, in this case, 25 years, 130 hp, and 1600 lbs. bought 3/10s of a second).

Edit: Rematch this weekend.

 

[nate]

Your car should be much faster than his.

 

[Guest]

Your car should be much faster than his.

SLAP! You refuse to understand that on an autocross, HP doesn't matter. Period.

 

[nate]

SLAP! You refuse to understand that on an autocross, HP doesn't matter. Period.

Sure, I don't, right

IT ISN'T about HP, the E36 is a far superior platform than the 2002. Given equal driving, the E36 should destroy a 2002. The 2002 runs in the lowest class at CCA auto-x, class C; our cars are class A and are faster, got it? http://www.houston-bmwcca.com/z3/Autocross/AUTOX_Worksheet.htm

You are really naive if you think that a 2002 with stock suspension can touch even the fat pig that I am driving at auto-x....

 

[CD-55]

Hey, you also beat me by 1/2 a sec. But I already am aware of my errors and I did have Kieth and Steve riding with me

BTW, you really looked smooth out there:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Here is the quote from Steve: It's my novice impression that JST is smoother, based on riding with him at
the TARA event(3 weeks ago)... CD-55, you should charge admission to ride with you. When I rode with you (Sunday),
it was pretty much hold on for dear life.

 

[JST]

Sure, I don't, right

IT ISN'T about HP, the E36 is a far superior platform than the 2002. Given equal driving, the E36 should destroy a 2002. The 2002 runs in the lowest class at CCA auto-x, class C; our cars are class A and are faster, got it? http://www.houston-bmwcca.com/z3/Autocross/AUTOX_Worksheet.htm

You are really naive if you think that a 2002 with stock suspension can touch even the fat pig that I am driving at auto-x....

I was a bit zealous in my use of the term "stock." The 2002 definitely has a basically stock engine (as I noted) and stock brakes, but I don't know what he has done to the suspension or whether he was on R compound tires. He is running in FSP, which means he's done some suspension work, but I don't know exactly what.

Plus, please note my use of the phrase "well-driven." The '02 pilot seemed to have a lot more autox experience than yours truly.

Not sure what your times look like, but this 2002 squeaked by another fast guy in an E46 (i.e., CD-55), so I wouldn't necessarily bet against him in a hypothetical matchup.

PS: CD-55, he and I were working Pole B together during your runs, and he mentioned that he had been benchmarking your times at the TARA short autocross, as well.

 

[CD-55]

PS: CD-55, he and I were working Pole B together during your runs, and he mentioned that he had been benchmarking your times at the TARA short autocross, as well.

Damn I surely don't want people to be tracking me... I got to find a way to blend in. Now I am wishing I never got that 1st place... Maybe I can paint the car another color before the next autox, then people won't know who I am?

 

[JST]

Damn I surely don't want people to be tracking me... I got to find a way to blend in. Now I am wishing I never got that 1st place... Maybe I can paint the car another color before the next autox, then people won't know who I am?

Put the SSRs on one side of your car and the M68s on the other. That will confuse people. Plus, if you put the two big M68s on the car, you'll turn better that way.

 

[CD-55]

Put the SSRs on one side of your car and the M68s on the other. That will confuse people. Plus, if you put the two big M68s on the car, you'll turn better that way.

Oh good idea, I have seen guys who painted their motocycle different colors on each side, so the cops when chasing a red bike, would then ignore the blue bike (other side of red bike)!

 

[scottn2retro]

from the June 9 LA BMW CCA AutoX at Irwindale

I always love the Drvier $ over Car $ triumphs!

At the AutoX this past Sunday in LA, these guys roll up with a Porsche 911 (with some huge wing on the back) and a Ferrari 360 Modena. Now while the Ferrari thru the course of the day and practice runs got his car good enough to finish 2nd in Class X (non BMWs), the Porsche 911 was not in the top 3. Both were beaten by a Suburau WRX (and another was in 3rd).

Fastest lap for the day: an E30 325!
so much for my POS!!!!!!

 

[CD-55]

Re: from the June 9 LA BMW CCA AutoX at Irwindale

I always love the Drvier $ over Car $ triumphs!

Me too!!!

At least 3-times this year we have competed against a M3 LIGHTWEIGHT and we have spanked it each time!:thumb: This last time it was off course each run

 

[scottn2retro]

Originally posted by CD-55
At least 3-times this year we have competed against a M3 LIGHTWEIGHT and we have spanked it each time! This last time it was off course each run

If he smacks that front splitter or those aluminum doors into a light pole, you have my permission to shoot him!

 

[CD-55]

If he smacks that front splitter or those aluminum doors into a light pole, you have my permission to shoot him!

That's a little harsh!

He is a novice and should take a little time to warm-up to the sport. I am sure that by the end of the season he will be whipping my butt.

 

[scottn2retro]

OK, don't shoot him, but

keep him away from anything that could damage that car!

 

[·clyde·]

Here is the quote from Steve: It's my novice impression that JST is smoother, based on riding with him at
the TARA event(3 weeks ago)... CD-55, you should charge admission to ride with you. When I rode with you (Sunday),
it was pretty much hold on for dear life.

CD - Don't know if you want any other comments about your runs, but from pole D it looked like you were overdriving quite a bit. Not as smooth as I remember at the last one. If I had to sum it up in one phrase, it looked like you were trying a little too hard to go a little too fast.

I, OTOH, tried to go slower this time and was successful. I stuck to my plan of conciously braking earlier than I had last time. As a result, I didn't push through the turns like before. I think I slowed too much a few times though. I couldn't get the slalom on the first half right...I think I tapped the brakes each time even though I knew that I didn't need to. I probably should have downshifted to first in a couple of places but didn't. Oh, and I have to remember to disable DSC before the runs start, and not when I'm on the course

Also, FYI, the gate right next to pole D changed a little between heats 1 and 2 due to a growing pothole. No idea how much time it might have been worth, but you may want to keep it mind when comparing your times with cars in the first heat.

 

[CD-55]

CD - Don't know if you want any other comments about your runs, but from pole D it looked like you were overdriving quite a bit. Not as smooth as I remember at the last one. If I had to sum it up in one phrase, it looked like you were trying a little too hard to go a little too fast.

I agree. Maybe I was hamming it up to give the folks riding with me a good time

The 4-wheel drift and slight oversteer I had when entering turns (while slowing) felt nice, but I really don't know if that was fast or slow? Feel free to email me.