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My name is Irv, and I work for Motorwerks dealership in Barrington, IL, as you can see it in my signature as well. I've been helping customers with the European Delivery for the past 5-6 years, but I have never experienced the ED trip myself. I presented to my managers the idea of me going on a trip to Europe and learn about the process of picking up the car, driving it around Europe, and then drop it off. Basically, I wanted to feel the thrill that everybody was talking about, and since I've never been to Europe, I knew this will be a challenge for me as well. My manager felt this is a great opportunity to help our future customers by explaining in my own words what European Delivery is. I will let you read my story about the whole trip, story which has been posted on my ED website that I decided to create after I came back from Europe, www.****.com I felt that by putting a good website together, it will help the people learn more and understand ED.

Anyway, I will copy and paste my whole story from my website, and also I have a story about Spartanburg Performance Center where I went back in May as well. I will post that story in a different thread. Thank you.

"It started as an idea, about 4 months before I actually picked up the car. I thought it would really help me to understand the entire process of the Euro delivery if I could somehow go to Munich. experience the delivery and drop the car in a different country.

The dream became a reality when I was told to spec out a 750LI, because I was being sent as a representative of Motor Werks . I chose

to pick up the car near the end of May, since World Cup Soccer was going on the whole month of June, and everything would have been too crowded for me. This extra time also allowed me to plan what I thought would be a well rounded trip including a factory tour at Dingolfing, one of BMW***8217;s most advanced plants in the world, which is only available on Tuesdays and Fridays. I also made a reservation for the Munich plant as a backup, so once I was confirmed for Dingolfing, I cancelled the Munich plant tour.

I left on a Tuesday , about 4:30 pm and arrived Wednesday around 8:30 am***8230;.just in time for breakfast at the airport and to take a picture

standing in the giant BMW grill in the hallway in the airport. Then instead of the usual cab to the Hotel, I thought I would be a bit more adventurous and ride the train and find the Hotel on my own. I wasn***8217;t picking up the car till the following day. I really didn***8217;t need it in Munich , only when I was leaving town. After finding my Hotel, dropped my suitcase, and ventured out to explore Munich, by foot, by train and by bus. Ate in some really great restaurants, drank some fine beer and hung out at the open air market and people watch.

Today, Thursday, was my pickup day and after a big breakfast and great directions, took the train to the delivery center. I was surprised

to find the location in a residential neighborhood. It was pretty low key from the outside, nicer on the inside. I was greeted promptly, told it would be a few minutes while forms were printed, the car detailed and brought up into the garage for delivery. They don***8217;t want to get them completely ready until the customer shows up. I went upstairs to the caf***233;, signed in the book, and had a sandwich while I waited. A short time later, they called my name and I went downstairs and signed the paperwork. I didn***8217;t need anyone to go over the car, so I plugged the Hotel into the Navigation, and in a short time, I was back at the Hotel and was able to arrange for underground parking nearby so the car would be safe.

I left Friday morning about 8:30 for Dachau and from there, headed to Dingolfing. I knew the plant tour was at 2pm and couldn***8217;t be late, but I had plenty of time in between and actually arrived at Dingolfing early so I hung out at their gift store and took pictures of all the workers leaving and all the workers on the second shift starting. One of the most amazing things I noticed was that was once we were inside, I really didn***8217;t see that many workers. Most of the work stations would have about 10 robots to one worker, so I still wasn***8217;t sure where everyone disappeared to, but it is a five story building that resembles a giant movie sound stage and the production line was humming. I believe that Dingolfing should be a mandatory stop on your journey if you are in the area when the tours are offered. If you love the cars, you***8217;ll be amazed at the process. The tour ends at 4:30 , so it was time to head to Salzburg ,Austria***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;.

After stopping at the gas station on the Autobahn to get my Austria road sticker and vest, I cruised into Salzberg about 7:30pm , found the Hotel and a great garage inside of a mountain which was around the corner from my hotel. Took a walk and a block party wine tasting going on, so I mingled with the crowd and had some of the wines they were offering. Saturday morning took a narrated bus tour and a short walking tour and then left about 11:30 am headed for Prague in the Czech Republic.

Crossing the border into Czech Republic, there was a currency Exchange store, so I pulled in and gave up some of those Euros for the Czech currency. The Navigation was flawless, not only did it take me right to the Hotel every time , this time I wound up with a parking spot directly in front of the Hotel which was on a main downtown street. The name of this hotel is The Adria , on Vaclavske Namesti 26 phone 420 233 920 118, 119, 139 or 141 . The reason I***8217;m mentioning this Hotel is because the location was awesome and the room better than most, but I walked all over Prague and took many pictures of the amazing architecture that was all around me. Signed up for a two hour walking tour the following day.

Decided to stop in Cologne over night, on the way to Amsterdam. I arrived in Cologne about 8pm Sunday, found a nice place for dinner, just by wandering aimlessly and went back to the hotel so I could get on the internet and check in with my family. Monday morning a took a walk to find the Chocolate Museum and after a very long walk, I did find it sitting in the river, but the closer I got, I wasn***8217;t seeing any activity there. I read the sign and it said closed Mondays, so I guess I wasn***8217;t going to see their Chocolate fountain or taste any of the goodies. I did manage to go around to a side door and went in to just peek. I introduced myself to someone and they explained that it is always closed on Mondays, but they did give me a brochure and I took a few pictures inside and when I was leaving, saw a group of school kids coming to see things, but they didn***8217;t know it was closed either.

Monday afternoon, left for Amsterdam . On the autobahn there must have been a major accident somewhere up ahead and the Police were directing cars off the highway. Once I had a chance to pull over, I reprogrammed the Navigation to avoid highways and it immediately started me on some beautiful back roads. After about twenty minutes, I switched it back to find the highway and was able to get right back on, avoid all the traffic and crank the speed back up.

Got to Amsterdam about 1:30pm and after dropping the suitcase at the hotel, reset the Nav for the drop off location which turned out to be another 30 minutes. I was nervous because I knew they closed by 3:30 and I didn***8217;t want to have to come back. Once I found it, the paperwork took about 30 minutes, they called me a cab and I took a few more pictures of the drop off process.

Amsterdam was my final city since it has so much diversity and beauty. I first took a canal boat tour , but later bought a 24hour pass for about 17 euros and was able to get my bearings pretty well and not be nervous walking around absorbing the sights and smells of the city. I went to the Riks museum to see the Rembrandts , and the Van Gogh museum and the Anne Frank House. I took the most pictures in Amsterdam , perhaps because I was there the longest.

Had a 7am flight out of Amsterdam to Frankfort and a 8:30 am flight from there back to Chicago, I arrived around 1:30 pm, tired, but anxious to be home to see my family.

All of these places were not only chosen for their beauty, but their history and their proximity to each other. It seemed like the average distance time wise between all the cities was three hours, maybe it helped that I was cruising a high speeds, but the cities really aren***8217;t too far apart and the highways and autobahn are much smoother than ours are. All I can really say after this is ***8220;European delivery, what a trip***8220;

For more pics, you can go to my gallery: www.*****
 

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Your links do not work.

And how about a write up on how long it takes to get the car back.
 

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NTB said:
Your links do not work.

And how about a write up on how long it takes to get the car back.
the links should work. I just tried them.

It took exactly 38 days to get the car back. The car made the first boat out of Amsterdam, which was a day or two later, if I remember correctly.
 

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IrvRobinson said:
the links should work. I just tried them.

It took exactly 38 days to get the car back. The car made the first boat out of Amsterdam, which was a day or two later, if I remember correctly.
What happens to the car now? Do they let you keep it?? ;)
 

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Nice write up and a good idea for you and your dealership to have first hand experience doing a European Delivery. Even though you've done many for your customers, I'm sure you learned new things doing the ED yourself.
 

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All we really want to know, since it was not your car....

Did you WOT on the Autobahn?
I bet a 750iL would be a smooth ride at 155, I had the hardest time getting one to move over when we were driving the M6.

There is a pic floating around here somewhere of someone bouncing off the 155 mph speed limiter in a car with 48 miles on the odometer, a 550 if I recall. For some reason that just makes me laugh.

Welcome to the Fest. BTW
 

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What happens to the car now? Do they let you keep it?? ;)
:) They said keep it, but I told them that it's either the M6 or nothing. J/k. It would have been nice if I could've kept the car.

The car is sold now as an Executive car.
 

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mullman said:
All we really want to know, since it was not your car....

Did you WOT on the Autobahn?
I bet a 750iL would be a smooth ride at 155, I had the hardest time getting one to move over when we were driving the M6.

There is a pic floating around here somewhere of someone bouncing off the 155 mph speed limiter in a car with 48 miles on the odometer, a 550 if I recall. For some reason that just makes me laugh.

Welcome to the Fest. BTW
I did hit 140mph, but it was after 1000 miles I think.

155mph after 48 miles??? wow

And thank you for the welcome.
 

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IRV: From dropping off in Amsterdam, does the car go by truck or train to Zeebruge, Belgium for shipment to the East Coast? Or does the ship leave from Holland?
 

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IrvRobinson said:
the links should work. I just tried them.

It took exactly 38 days to get the car back. The car made the first boat out of Amsterdam, which was a day or two later, if I remember correctly.
Well, since auto carriers (ships) don't leave from Amsterdam, are you really sure about this?:dunno::dunno::dunno:
 

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Jspira said:
Well, since auto carriers (ships) don't leave from Amsterdam, are you really sure about this?:dunno::dunno::dunno:
Now we know who really knows (and doesn't know) what they are talking about. The fake expert is owned by one of the real experts on ED.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 

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Jspire and DavidNY,
I'm not here to argue with anybody. Honestly, I didn't track the car daily, the car belongs to our dealership so the thrill on getting back the car wasn't the same. But since you asked me if I'm sure about it, I went back and double check, and yes, you were right, the car was loaded in Belgium after it was transported from Amsterdam.

And yes DavidNY, Jspire might be an ED expert and I have never claimed that I know more than he does or anybody else. Like I said, I started writing ED orders a few years ago and never really gotten into the whole ED process till maybe a year or two ago, but since then I tried to learn more things about it and I think I'm on the right track. Plus, I might know some inside things that you can't always find on a message board.

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Now we know who really knows (and doesn't know) what they are talking about. The fake expert is owned by one of the real experts on ED.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You need to calm down. Irv is just trying to share what he knows with us. Who cares if someone is a self proclaimed "ED Expert"? An ED 'expert' would not 'own' much, except a bunch of EDed BMWs....
 

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I think it's good that he wants to learn more about the process.
 

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Here is my experience with Irv:
I emailed Irv last week and told him exactly which car I wanted via an ED delivery. I was going to be in chicago, traveling from st louis, and I had read about him on this very website. I am a first time poster here, just searching the internet for the best ED deal. I came across his name by searching for chicago and ED experiences.
Irv emailed me and asked me to come in. I arranged an appointment with him on saturday. he also sent me a link to his website, which was great and helped my family to understand the ED process.

When I met Irv, the first thing he asked was "Do you want to go for a test drive". I cannot tell you how much i appreciated this. I actually had driven my dad's 530xi up to the dealer, so I didnt need to go for a drive (I am getting the same car), but I appreciate that he wanted to put me into a car before even talking numbers. We chatted about the ED process, and then he pulled out some books. We did a deal that I thought was very fair, and he gave me all of the relevant copies of the paperwork. He told me to send him copies of my passport and that was it...

I appreciate that Irv has done a trip himself. He was the ideal salesman, and he pretty much just asked which car I want, the options I wanted, and gave me a price. We walked out very happy. My dad, who went with me, was very impressed and wants to go on the ED trip with me. I think that you can look around all you want, but when it is time to actually make the deal, you should visit a CA experienced in ED. Any dealer can do ED, but the experienced ones make it better. Clearly, Irv was a specialist (compared to me and compared to other dealers that I visited in my area). I cannot wait until my trip in october. Thanks for making it so easy.
 

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IrvRobinson said:
thank you for the kind words.

btw, does anybody know in which section to post my story about my trip to the Performance Center in Spartanburg?
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IrvRobinson said:
thank you for the kind words.

btw, does anybody know in which section to post my story about my trip to the Performance Center in Spartanburg?
You did that, too ? Wow ! What kind of car did you pick up in Spartanburg ? I guess we'll find out when you post your write up ! Looking forward to it.
 
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