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Hello all,

I've been reading this subforum for quite some time now posting here and there and found this website to be a tremendous resource for placing my order and learning more about European Delivery. Well my delivery date and check-in time has been confirmed and my wife and I can finally now plan our trip.

For starters, my ED is not until 9/18/08 @ 9:30AM at the Welt. I chose such a prolonged pick-up date in order for me to comfortably sell my 2003 Nissan 350Z and 1984 Porsche 944 and to take advantage of the better airfare pricing post tourist season. It didn't hurt either that upon hearing about my plans, my boss offered to allow me to expense 1-2 days of the trip in Italy.

So here's what I got so far...and i'm hoping people who have used the Lufthansa 2-1 deal can chime in on this.

9/15 - depart from EWR and arrival in CDG (Paris, France) on 9/16
9/16 - Hotel still to be determined, check in and spend 2 days in Paris, touring the city, maybe do the hop on/off tour bus and visit Louvre, Eiffel Tower etc...
9/17 - Evening, I can either do a euro rail from Paris to Munich or if there is a cheaper local flight, fly to Munich, check into hotel (still to be determined).
9/18 - Take the S-bahn train to welt, pick up car, do the Welt tour, Factory tour, BMW museum, buy some BMW accesories, if time permits, drive the romantic road tour (from my Frommer's guidebook).
9/19 - Depart Munich and head into the Swiss Alps, down the Stelvio Pass towards Milan, check in at Hotel Michelangelo.
9/20 - 9/21 - Tour Milan
9/22 - Check out of Hotel, meet with boss, tour a few more places with him then head over to Piedmonte, check into hotel (TBD)
9/23 - Work (tour HQ)
9/24 - check out hotel in Piedmonte, drive east towards Lake Como, visit 2nd office and tour facility, afternoon depart Italy back into Germany toward Nuremburg and drive Nurburgring.
9/25 - return to Munich and drop off car, take U-Bahn to MUC and return to EWR.

I'm open to any/all recommendations on hotels, travel tips (train vs. air from Paris to Munich), alternative drop off location coming from Nuremberg then to Airport etc. I'm also wondering if I can utilize Lufthansa 2-1 deal arriving at CDG then returning from MUC (kinda multiple cities).
 

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Frank

A hearty welcome and an even heartier congratulations (on placing your ED order) to you from all of us at Bimmerfest. I'm delighted to hear that you managed to convince your boss to let you expense part of your ED trip! Great job!

You should check out some of the fares on the budget airlines as well as the train fares between Paris and Munich before you decide which one is better. My recent experiences traveling within Europe make me lean towards taking a train, but with the discount airlines flying everywhere in Europe nowadays, flying could be more cost effective.

My guess is that Lufthansa will allow you to do an open-jaws 2-for-1 deal, but because you have quite a bit of time, you should also check the fares that you can get yourself. With "Open Skies" between Europe and the US becoming a reality, "maybe" one can obtain some decent fares!

Please keep us updated about your plans! Some of us who cannot do another ED soon like to live vicariously through the experiences of others!
 

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The major question for the Piedmonte leg of the trip is "do you want to stay in downtown Turin or in one of the smaller cities in the region?" If you never have been, Turin can be looked at either as an old industrial city (think Pittsburgh, Cleveland, or Detroit) or as an interesting, vibrant upscale Italian city of reasonable size and scale. (I firmly hold the second view.) It has good hotels, absolutely fabulous restaurants, great museums, shopping, etc.

I'm also reading between the lines here: I take it you'll have a companion/partner/spouse with you. Turin is an increadily safe city and would be a good option if the other person has to entertain him/herself for the day while you are stuck with business meetings.

Decide which way you want to go, and we can give you many specific recommendations.
 

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Frank

A hearty welcome and an even heartier congratulations (on placing your ED order) to you from all of us at Bimmerfest. I'm delighted to hear that you managed to convince your boss to let you expense part of your ED trip! Great job!

You should check out some of the fares on the budget airlines as well as the train fares between Paris and Munich before you decide which one is better. My recent experiences traveling within Europe make me lean towards taking a train, but with the discount airlines flying everywhere in Europe nowadays, flying could be more cost effective.

My guess is that Lufthansa will allow you to do an open-jaws 2-for-1 deal, but because you have quite a bit of time, you should also check the fares that you can get yourself. With "Open Skies" between Europe and the US becoming a reality, "maybe" one can obtain some decent fares!

Please keep us updated about your plans! Some of us who cannot do another ED soon like to live vicariously through the experiences of others!
Thank you for the warm welcome!
I just reserved the Lufthansa 2-1 deal, but will still check out flights as you suggested.
My flight itinerary sounds like this so far

9/15 Depart EWR 2:40pm arriving 3:59pm @ IAD via United Airlines
Depart IAD 5:29pm arriving 9/16 06:55 local time at CDG via United Airlines
9/17 Depart CDG 19:00 arriving 20:30 @ MUC via Lufthansa
9/25 Depart MUC 15:mad:5 arriving 6:30pm @ EWR via Lufthansa.

Total pricing for both my wife and I $1,524.00 (i'm still researching if I can beat this with Kayak.com as about 2 hours ago I saw that flight for $88/person. Now its showing it at $200/person and this is still 4 mo away!
 

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The major question for the Piedmonte leg of the trip is "do you want to stay in downtown Turin or in one of the smaller cities in the region?" If you never have been, Turin can be looked at either as an old industrial city (think Pittsburgh, Cleveland, or Detroit) or as an interesting, vibrant upscale Italian city of reasonable size and scale. (I firmly hold the second view.) It has good hotels, absolutely fabulous restaurants, great museums, shopping, etc.

I'm also reading between the lines here: I take it you'll have a companion/partner/spouse with you. Turin is an increadily safe city and would be a good option if the other person has to entertain him/herself for the day while you are stuck with business meetings.

Decide which way you want to go, and we can give you many specific recommendations.
The name of the actual city I will be staying is named Bra. Yes, my wife will be accompanying me. Please suggest any local places to check out, restaurants, museums etc.

Thank you in advance!
 

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The name of the actual city I will be staying is named Bra. Yes, my wife will be accompanying me. Please suggest any local places to check out, restaurants, museums etc.

Thank you in advance!
Bra is a nice town near Alba. Do you know how to use viamichelin? Look at:
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamiche...1NDFlbXIxMGNORFF1TmprM09EST1jTnk0NE5UUTFOQT09
and click on the blue triangle to the right of "Local attractions". To get you started, here are a few possibilities in Saluzzo, 30km away:

Castello della Manta (Manta Castle)
S 589 I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 29km
The splendid Gothic frescoes of an aristocratic mansion. more informations

S. Giovanni (Church St John)
V. San Giovanni I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 30km
An extraordinary apse, a gem of Burgundian Gothic art. more informations

Casa Cavassa (Cavassa House)
v. San Giovanni 5 I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 30km
An elegant aristocratic 15C house. more informations

Torre Civica (Municipal tower)
V. San Giovanni I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 30km
A reward for climbers. more informations

Turin is 40 km to the north.

Not listed in the Michelin, but very interesting if you like architecture, is the small town of Mondovi, to the south of Bra. It has the Sanctuary at Vicoforte Mondovì, capped by the world's largest elliptical dome.

The four restaurants recommended in Bra or the the immediate area are:
Boccondivino
via Mendicità Istruita 14 I - 12042 BRA
Right in the centre of the little town, inside a house with balconies, managed by a cooperative "trades folk", it offers authentic cuisine and good wine.

Battaglino
piazza Roma 18 I - 12042 BRA
Trattoria in the centre of town, with a Piedmontese cuisine. Restaurant enlivened by the owner who belongs to a family of restaurant owners, who have been involved in managing the establishment since 1919. I think this is where we had a very good lunch.

Il Principe
piazza Giovanni Arpino 37 I - 12042 BRA
Distance: 1.2km
The restaurant offers Piedmont specialties accompanied by seafood.

L'Ostu 'd Racunis
borgo San Martino 7 I - 12042 BRA
Distance: 2.5km
A pleasant restaurant specialising in Langarola cuisine.
 

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You need to sew up your hotel reservations in Munich asap ... I believe you will be there during Oktoberfest ?

Sounds like a great trip!

Dave
 

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Bra is a nice town near Alba. Do you know how to use viamichelin? Look at:
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamiche...1NDFlbXIxMGNORFF1TmprM09EST1jTnk0NE5UUTFOQT09
and click on the blue triangle to the right of "Local attractions". To get you started, here are a few possibilities in Saluzzo, 30km away:

Castello della Manta (Manta Castle)
S 589 I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 29km
The splendid Gothic frescoes of an aristocratic mansion. more informations

S. Giovanni (Church St John)
V. San Giovanni I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 30km
An extraordinary apse, a gem of Burgundian Gothic art. more informations

Casa Cavassa (Cavassa House)
v. San Giovanni 5 I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 30km
An elegant aristocratic 15C house. more informations

Torre Civica (Municipal tower)
V. San Giovanni I - 12037 Saluzzo
Distance: 30km
A reward for climbers. more informations

Turin is 40 km to the north.

Not listed in the Michelin, but very interesting if you like architecture, is the small town of Mondovi, to the south of Bra. It has the Sanctuary at Vicoforte Mondovì, capped by the world's largest elliptical dome.

The four restaurants recommended in Bra or the the immediate area are:
Boccondivino
via Mendicità Istruita 14 I - 12042 BRA
Right in the centre of the little town, inside a house with balconies, managed by a cooperative "trades folk", it offers authentic cuisine and good wine.

Battaglino
piazza Roma 18 I - 12042 BRA
Trattoria in the centre of town, with a Piedmontese cuisine. Restaurant enlivened by the owner who belongs to a family of restaurant owners, who have been involved in managing the establishment since 1919. I think this is where we had a very good lunch.

Il Principe
piazza Giovanni Arpino 37 I - 12042 BRA
Distance: 1.2km
The restaurant offers Piedmont specialties accompanied by seafood.

L'Ostu 'd Racunis
borgo San Martino 7 I - 12042 BRA
Distance: 2.5km
A pleasant restaurant specialising in Langarola cuisine.
Wow, thank you for those - i've signed on to ViaMichelin before, but didn't really understand it so I've been using google maps to figure out the driving waypoints (I also have ordered Navigation in my car). Will definitely check it out.

How about Milan, I was reading my Frommer's book last night and it seems if you weren't there for business, not a fashion junkie or a religious person, it is not a great vacation spot.
 

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You need to sew up your hotel reservations in Munich asap ... I believe you will be there during Oktoberfest ?

Sounds like a great trip!

Dave
Tried to bid on priceline this morning based on the findings i've got here so far and no dice. I tried Munich City Center North and South and tried bidding in the $69-75 range for a 4-star hotel and no go.

I guess I'll try again in 48 hours. :dunno:
 
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