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· A sudden sense of liberty
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nate328Ci said:
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I didn't know your car had that steering wheel. I reall dislike it. It is too big. It's like driving a bus :p
Take my car out on the autocross track right after your car, and then tell me which one feels like driving a bus. :p

Actually, I like this wheel. The airbag section is a bit large, but I don't notice it so much anymore. I'd rather have the E46 M3 wheel (I like the thicker rim and stereo controls), but of the E36 wheels, this one is the best. FWIW, I'm pretty sure all E36 M3 cabriolets have this wheel.
 

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JST said:


Take my car out on the autocross track right after your car, and then tell me which one feels like driving a bus. :p

Actually, I like this wheel. The airbag section is a bit large, but I don't notice it so much anymore. I'd rather have the E46 M3 wheel (I like the thicker rim and stereo controls), but of the E36 wheels, this one is the best. FWIW, I'm pretty sure all E36 M3 cabriolets have this wheel.
I like my steering wheel a lot :dunno:

I'll bet your car is heavier :p Probably not much (if any) faster :p
 

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nate328Ci said:


Probably not much (if any) faster :p
Wah ju talkin' 'bout Willis?

Maybe before, but not now!

Those fuzzy dice, just in generic white are worth an extra 10hp. And in pink I think they are rated at 12hp!:D :D
 

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I think the dice would look better in blue, to match the Roundel.

I like the steering wheel - nice and thick with a thumb imprint. So what if it has a huge airbag?
 

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I'm sure you know this-- but there is a version of the wheel w/ the stereo controls-- they used it on the early M5s and 5's w/ sport packages. I think that wheel looks to be of higher quality than the new M wheel. Anyway, maybe you could rig up the version of that wheel w/ multifucntion controls to work on your e36?
 

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nate328Ci said:


I like my steering wheel a lot :dunno:

I'll bet your car is heavier :p Probably not much (if any) faster :p
My car is a bit heavier than yours--probably as much as 200 lbs. In truth, the only time I autocrossed it I wasn't noticeably faster than similar courses I'd run in the 323Ci, but this is as much down to the driver as it is the car. We'll see how I do as I get used to the M3. At this point, here are some differences I've noticed between my E46 and E36:

1. The M3 has more power and an LSD, which means it can get out of corners faster.

2. The M3 understeers more, because of the staggered tire setup and convertible chassis flex, but can be steered with the throttle more easily because of #1.

3. The M3 has more chassis flex, which hurts it on bumpy courses.

4. The M3 must be shifted more gingerly, because of slippy sensation caused either by a) the dual mass flywheel or b) the CDV, depending on who you believe.

5. The M3's control inputs are much more linear than the 323, and the feedback through the throttle, suspension and steering makes it easier for the driver to tell what the car is doing.

6. Because of #5, the M3 *feels* lighter and more nimble than the 323, despite the fact that it is substantially heavier.

7. If I had to equate one to driving a bus, it would be the E46, no matter how fast it is.

FWIW, by going to an M3C instead of a 323Ci, I've given up any chance of ever being competitive in the points standings.
 

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I bet you didn't know that those dice carry a long history....

Dice are integral to almost all roleplaying games.
These smooth polyhedrons of plastic have become
objects of fixation for some players, who accumulate
large bags full of dice in different shapes and colors;
some that even glow in the dark. Dice are sold with
words or icons on them. They come in left- and
right-handed versions. The randomization of dice has
been programmed into hand-held or online devices.
People can custom-order dice. There are even
websites devoted to dice.
Early dice were made of wood, clay, bone, stone
or ivory. The point of using dice was to randomize
results, so that the dice themselves might have been
tossed sticks, knucklebones, spinners (like teetotums
or dreidels) or the cubes we are more familiar with
today. Because the earliest dice weren't regular in
shape, they could easily favor one number over
another. Since the gods were supposed to determine
which side came up, that wasn't supposed to matter.
When dice were used for divination, this issue wasn't
terribly important. Divinatory dice include African
divining bones and various forms of rune stones or
rune dice.
All very good for divinations, but what about
gambling? Irregularly shaped dice undoubtedly led to
cheating. A book written in 1550 addressed A
Manifest Detection of Diceplay and discusses some
of the ways players can cheat at games of dice. If
you would like your own loaded dice, you can order
them (d6 only) over the Web.
Perhaps because it didn't take long for people to
recognize that certain irregularly shaped dice favored
certain results, regular dice soon became more
popular. According to Dr. R. J. Henery, an early
example of a regular die comes from Northern Iraq
(about 3000 BC). It was a d6 made of pottery.
[reference site down 5/17/00] Modern 6-sided dice
are designed so that each opposite side adds up to 7; 1
and 6, 2 and 5, 3 and 4. (See a medieval manuscript
illustration of dice being made.)
Senet, an ancient Egyptian game predating
Backgammon, may be one of the earliest known dice
games. The oldest known representation of Senet is in
a painting from the tomb of Hesy (Third Dynasty
circa 2686-2613 BCE), according to Catherine
Soubeyrand. Sticks or knucklebones would have been
used for dice in this game.
The Romans played Tali, which used the
knucklebones of sheep or goats. These dice were
later replaced, among the wealthier, by replicas in
metal, ivory, and even precious gems.
In the medieval period, Alphonse X dictated the
?Book of Dice,? which includes illustrations of
Highest Number and Same Number with One as with
Two Dice. Riffa, and Guirguiesca.
In the 15th century, a game called Tablero de
Jesus was a dice game for money. Popular in Spain, it
was banned by the Pope in 1458, and the ban
rescinded only in the 20th century. Later the game
was turned into Toblero, which replaced coins with
shot glasses, and the winnings were imbibed rather
than spent. (See a medieval manuscript illustration of
dicing.)
In the 16th century, dice were used in games
such as Gluckhaus and Hazard. Later, dice games like
Craps and Backgammon came to resemble what we
know today.
Today's non-d6 dice are the results of math and
technology. Although d4's and d6's are relatively easy
to manufacture, dice ranging from d8 to d100 are
much harder, requiring advanced and precise casting
techniques. For die-hard polyhedral fans (yes, I know,
a cube is also a polyhedron, but you know what I
mean), check out the Pavilion of Polyhedreality, with
more projects and information about polyhedrals than
you could ever want.
But now, the most important question. Which
combinations of polyhedral dice get which results?
This is a much-discussed issue for games such as
Deadlands, in which you can assign different types
and numbers of dice to different attributes. The
formula for figuring it out exists, but it isn't easy....
 

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You need the chrome naked ladies that Jim in OREGON had on his car a year ago.
 

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To Ripsnort: Very erudite. I kinda prefer your ranting, however.

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