Aren't most Porsche Boxsters made in Finland at that plant?Patrick 320d said:BTW, this SAAB 9-3 model will be made entirely in Finland starting this fall! The same production line that makes the SAAB 900 Convertible and Porsche Boxster (100km from here in Uusikaupunki).
I would never buy a SAAB (unless it was an airplane), and even less so if it was made in Finland!
I've always said that for the majority of BMW drivers who have no idea why they should prefer RWD or even notice the difference in anything but snowy/icy conditions, that the Saabs are a great choice.Alex Baumann said:Only con : FWD [/B]
Yes. They also "produce" the Lada Euro-Samara, and tried and failed to make a winner out of the Opel (GM) Calibra.TD said:Aren't most Porsche Boxsters made in Finland at that plant?
Saabs have always been available with manual trannies. I's assume this will be no different. Hell, if GM is adding a manual tranny to a Caddy, I'd have to bet the Saabs will continue to have them.hts said:Now THAT'S a pretty cool looking dash/center console cluster!
Please tell me that it'll be available with a manual tranny as well (surely GM wouldn't do that to us?).
The other neat thing about Saabs is that their so quirky. Always loved the placement of the ignition key. Porsches have nuthin' on us Saab owners!
'Course, we'll need an AWD or RWD variant before serious consideration.
Cool Tom. Guess we'll be seeing each other over at the (I just registered the domain name) saabfest.com web site?TD said:
Saabs have always been available with manual trannies. I's assume this will be no different. Hell, if GM is adding a manual tranny to a Caddy, I'd have to bet the Saabs will continue to have them.
And I think GM is thinking about an AWD variant of the 9-3.
Which would give me yet another alternative should Bangle totally destroy BMW styling.
Actually, I think Saab DOES offer ED.hts said:
Cool Tom. Guess we'll be seeing each other over at the (I just registered the domain name) saabfest.com web site?
Anyone know if Saab offers a discount on their (do they even have one) Euro delivery program?
I don't know; I see a lot of Passat/Mondeo/Vectra in that front 3/4 view.Alex Baumann said:
Only con : FWD
I agree, that will be a potential make-or-break. Hopefully GM Engineering is smart enough to have figured that if they want to make their universal platform strategy successful, they'd better start out with a high-level base, and not fall into what Chrysler did with the K-car platform.JST said:
I don't know; I see a lot of Passat/Mondeo/Vectra in that front 3/4 view.
The achilles heel of recent Saabs has been the complete inability of their platforms to deal with the high-horsepower engines under the hood. FWD alone is a serious disadvantage, but Saabs have taken the flaws of FWD to an entirely new level.
The Sigma platform is an important one for GM, but it will also serve as the basis for some pretty down market vehicles (like the Grand Am and, IIRC, the Saturn ION). Contrast this with the Volvo FWD platform, which was designed initially for the S80 and was later moved down to the S60 (and was expensive enough to build that it could not be economically adapted to the Taurus, to Nasser's chagrin). We'll see if it's good enough for the 9-3, but I have my doubts.
DaveN323i said:Humm, maybe about time. The cold war seems to be ending.
Edit: I hope you guys understand what I mean.