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As many have heard, Ninong, a long time contributor to Bimmerfest has passed away-

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9789103#post9789103

As a tribute to the depth and breadth of his contributions, we have determined to create this thread to accumulate his significant contributions.

Please note the following:

- Anyone is free to contribute- just add a post and include a link to Ninong's contribution.

- Please, no 'dittos' or +1 or commentary...

- Your post should describe the issue or summarize the significance of the thread you are linking- then embed a link to his ppost (or to the entire thread if the context requires the whole thread)

- A summary of "the guy was trying to lease, in post 6 ninong laid out the issues involving blah blah"

Lets give this a try and see if it comes to life. Mods can always edit this post, the title, the content...HOWEVER, the success will depend on each of us individually in our contributions.

Dig up your Ninong contributions- summrize it and link it here!
 

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Great thread idea! I'm not sure if this is in the proper "format" but the best advice Ninong ever personally gave me on this forum was the following (which is really broadly applicable to any car purchasing scenario):

Do you guys recommend that a buyer divulge any market research when negotiating price with a salesperson, to show they've done their homework?

Does your recommendation change if we're talking about buying a pre-owned or CPO car vs. a new car, or do the same rules/advice apply to both cases?
My recommendation is that you have to be informed. You don't have to divulge anything unless you're correcting a statement made by the "client advisor." Remember, your primary purpose in going to the dealership is to check out the cars in person, drive the models you're interested in driving and arrive at a decision. Your decision. You're not there to assist them in selling you anything, you're there to assist yourself.

If you come across something you like, maybe you will allow them to try to sell it to you. If you have decided that you want to order a car and you're interested in considering them as a place to do business, then tell them that's what you have decided you're going to do and let them try to sell you. Just remember who's in control -- the buyer. It's your job to work the salespeople, not the other way around. There are so many tricks you can play on them, provided you're smooth.

If you're not satisfied with their "final" offer, tell them you will "consider" their offer and leave.
 
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